Tennis Forum banner
Status
Not open for further replies.

How does Sharapova's career slam stack up against the Career slams before hers?

20K views 269 replies 81 participants last post by  miffedmax  
#1 ·
10 women have done it, Sharpie being the most recent.

How impressive has her career slam been when placed in the conext of previous career slams by the likes of Serena, Steffi, Martina, Chris etc?

Some would argue that the career slam wins since the open era were acheived by legends of the sport, but not many would place that mantel on Maria so what does it mean for the significance of the career slam?

Image
 
Save
#2 ·
People can hate and mock her all they want, but winning a Career Grand Slam is something that only a few people in tennis have been able to do. Sure, maybe it's not as impressive as Steffi's, Martina's or Chris', but she did it and that's what matters.

And honestly, even if a player I disliked completed a Career Grand Slam, I'd be happy for them :)
 
#96 ·
Three words, sir --> Rotator cuff tear. We will never find out how Maria's career would have panned out but for that issue. It's like the neverending Graf vs Seles discussion with Hamburg '93 in mind.

Personally I don't care if GM establishes her the worst female player ever to win any GS title, no one will ever take away the Career GS away from her regardless of the ammount of hate pouring on TF. And that's the only thing that really matters.
 
Save
#4 ·
It should be also mentioned that only 5 players won Career Slam winning Slams on hard, clay and grass courts.
 
Save
#5 ·
I'm a huge fan of Maria but I'm not deluded,I realize most(if not all) of the women who also have career slams have much more natural talent than she does. I think this makes it all the more impressive though,it speaks volumes about her motivation and drive...
 
#6 ·
but you'll have to admit that her shoulder injury affected her career seriously when she was at her peak
 
Save
#9 · (Edited)
It sure is a great achievement to win a GS in Grass/Clay/Hard, there are even fewer players doing that. Of course it's not as impressive as when Serena's or Graf have done it since it was in a shorter period of time. BUT Maria did have a huge step back during her career with that nasty shoulder injury. Some people may argue that she has now became a better clay courter and it's her new specialty so it makes that long time her career grand slam less impressive. On the other hand, she has finals on GS finals all surfaces and in all GS exept at the USO where she made the SF and that AFTER her shoulder injury...not many player has done that...actually she's the only active player to have that kind of record in the last 2 years. She sure has not became a claycourt specialist then, so her career is very impressive to me. I think most people doesn't really realize what kind of achievements Sharapova has done. Still would get behind Serena but still Maria's record is very impressive.
 
Save
#11 ·
Of course it's not as impressive as when Serena's or Hingis have done it since it was in a shorter period of time.
Hingis hasn't done it.

Serena has done even more - Career Golden Slam.
 
Save
#12 ·
I meant Graf :eek:
 
Save
#14 ·
Well since a career slam is winning all four slams, they all stack up pretty much the same lol
 
  • Like
Reactions: eDonkey
Save
#18 ·
As much as you enjoy trying to devalue it, Maria's career slam is equal to all the others. A career slam is nothing more than winning all four majors in ones career. Steffi did it, Martina did it, Serena did it, Maria did it. The fact that the other members all have vastly more illustrious careers has no bearing on Maria's career slam, and neither does the fact that she isn't as good a player as them. (Something which even her most deluded of stans will admit!)

You don't win all four majors by mistake. It takes a very good player to win even one slam, let alone all of them. When you look at that group, it's only the all-time greats that have managed to do it. Yeah, Maria isn't quite as good as them, but I think it says something about her personality and determination that she has managed to complete the set despite having less natural talent than the others. Anyway, since when was it a crime to not have a career that matches that of Serena Williams or Steffi Graf?

As much as you hate it, Maria Sharapova has won all four majors, something only nine other women were able to do. Maybe it says more about certain other great players, who were gifted with far more talent than her, but just couldnt do what she did.
 
#20 ·
Is Sharapova's career slam less impressive than many of the other women who have acheived the feat? Maybe, but regardless of that she won all 4 slams and no one will ever be able to take that away from her. It's really more interesting to look at all the amazing players that havent won a career slam like Hingis, Venus, Henin, Davenport, Clijsters, even Mauresmo all could make a legitimate case as being better than Maria yet unable to win a Career Grand Slam.
 
Save
#22 ·
:lol: obviously a troll thread since the op is a psycho but i'll take the bait: maria obviously is less accomplished than most because she's still active and they're retired with full careers. :eek:
 
Save
#23 ·
It's obviously the weakest given she's only won 1 of each Slam however it's a testament to her commitment to the sport, work ethic and mental fortitude that she turned her worst surface over the years into argueably her best and most consistant. I'm not a Sharapova fan at all but hats off to what she's done and watching her slide on the clay and turn herself into a better athlete has made me respect her an awful lot more than I did in the past. It's an incredible achievement.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Charlatan
Save
#24 ·
A weak vulture player whose achievements pale in comparison to everyone else.

She lowered the bar greatly.

In the future, conversations about a Career Slam will start with the sentence "But even Maria freaking Sharapova has a career slam, it's not a big deal at all"
 
Save
#29 ·
Even though I don´t like her, this has to be praised, it´s extremelly dificult to achieve the career slam, as you can see much more talented players like:

Peak Pierce
Monica Seles
Hingis
Davenport
Justine
Venus

weren´t able to achieve this feat. But to have freaking useless Errani in a slam final and mental midget Ivanovic is everything you can ask for in a slam final :oh: And smartly she took advantage of that.
 
#30 ·
It's notable, but it not defining. Hingis is still a greater player in the history of the game, for example, or even ASV.

WHat's interesting about Sharapova, in this context, is that she went from incompetent on slow courts, but a fast court champ, to a slow court champ who fails on the biggest stages on fast courts. THAT is unusual.
 
Save
#31 ·
It seems Maria fans exagerrate what the career slam means for her and what her place in history will be considered. Andre Agassi has achieved the Career Slam which is much harder in the mens game than the womens, and he is an 8 slam winner, and yet he is still rated by almost all experts and fans below Lendl and Connors who also have 8 slams, and even McEnroe who only has 7. Given the numerous other holes in her career- no year as the generally regarded best player in the World, no year as the year end #1, no defense of a slam title, no 2 slams in the same year, no years winning a large number of tournaments for the year, and not even back to back years winning a slam, she would need 9 slams to even be rated by people on par with Venus or Henin even with her Career Slam.
 
#33 ·
It seems Maria fans exagerrate what the career slam means for her and what her place in history will be considered. Andre Agassi has achieved the Career Slam which is much harder in the mens game than the womens, and he is an 8 slam winner, and yet he is still rated by almost all experts and fans below Lendl and Connors who also have 8 slams, and even McEnroe who only has 7. Given the numerous other holes in her career- no year as the generally regarded best player in the World, no year as the year end #1, no defense of a slam title, no 2 slams in the same year, no years winning a large number of tournaments for the year, and not even back to back years winning a slam, she would need 9 slams to even be rated by people on par with Venus or Henin even with her Career Slam.
oh hi Sgt. Timmy! :wavey: please tell us where this empirical stat came from and why a person with more slams and the career grand slam would only be equal with two non-career grand slam 7x champions who were highly surface dependent?
 
Save
#32 ·
Maria is an excellent 4x1 slam wonder :).
 
Save
#36 ·
She has the career-slam, multiple tours, and a successful life. But Graff, Navratilova, Serena, Evert, etc are better than her. mmmm a life tragedy out there. I don't know how she can live with herself? :sad:

Seriously guys. :wavey:
 
Save
#37 ·
Of the people with the career slam she ranks dead last below even Shirley Fry, another 4 slam only winner. Even Fry won 3 slams in a row. That is what you call dominance. When did Maria ever have a run close to that.

There are some posters in this thread who seem to think being a career slam winner elevates her above all non career slam winners which is laughable. Forget Henin and Venus, lets even rank her above Monica Seles who never won Wimbledon. Lets rank her above Suzanne Lenglen who never won the Australian or U.S Open. Now comprehend how ridiculous to overvalue the career slam is.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
You have insufficient privileges to reply here.