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Too many people are jumping to conclusions too quickly without knowing the facts.
190 players and staff members were tested in Palermo and 1 was positive.
We are talking 1 out of 190 people coming from different parts of the planet. It's actually surprising that it was just 1 positive test. Also, after arriving in Palermo, those 190 people got immediately tested and were not allowed to leave their hotel rooms until they received their test results. Therefore Tomova was in contact with none of the other 190 people involved in the tournament.

That's why the testing system is in place. That's why the "bubble" is in place.
If you think that there will always be zero positive cases at every tournament, you're either naive or living on a different planet. Even with a vaccine available in early 2021, it might take months before international events with people coming from all over the planet are completely virus free. So what are they gonna do? Not play tennis until 2022?

Don't be surprised if there are at least 10 positive cases at each of the next 3 or 4 Grand Slams. 10 out of 1,000 people is a very realistic possibility.

That is almost the norm if you show up at work every single day in today's world. We are 100 employees at my work and 3 tested positive in the past 4 weeks. The 10 coworkers that were in contact with them were also quarantined. Every time a person tests positive, they shut down our offices for disinfection for 24 hours. 24 hours later, the remaining 70 or 80 employees are all back at work, it's business as usual. The ones that are quarantined work from home if they can. Life goes on.
 

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10 out of 1,000 people is a very realistic possibility.
In Germany, 10 in 3,600 have been sick since the start of the pandemic so to find a tournament with 10 in 1000 infected would be something to worry about.
 

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I think a player who is already at the tournament site testing positive proves that there are not yet processes in place to properly address restarting professional tennis. As we've been repeatedly told, the virus doesn't impact everyone the same way so while a majority may not have to worry about long-lasting health issues or death, it doesn't mean that we can be so cavalier about what the standards should be.

For me, and I understand this is quite extreme, until there is an efficient virus, we need stricter policies. So for an event like this, everyone who wants to participate should have gotten a negative test result in the day they left their homes for Palermo. They should be arriving in Palermo and put under strict lockdown for two days to go through another round of testing before they're allowed to practice or use the facilities. This to prevent the possible spread of the virus. Yes, this will make each tournament longer, but better that than sick people running around or no tournaments at all.
I assumed this was the process? Are they being more lacks than this?
 

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Too many people are jumping to conclusions too quickly without knowing the facts.
190 players and staff members were tested in Palermo and 1 was positive.
We are talking 1 out of 190 people coming from different parts of the planet. It's actually surprising that it was just 1 positive test. Also, after arriving in Palermo, those 190 people got immediately tested and were not allowed to leave their hotel rooms until they received their test results. Therefore Tomova was in contact with none of the other 190 people involved in the tournament.

That's why the testing system is in place. That's why the "bubble" is in place.
If you think that there will always be zero positive cases at every tournament, you're either naive or living on a different planet. Even with a vaccine available in early 2021, it might take months before international events with people coming from all over the planet are completely virus free. So what are they gonna do? Not play tennis until 2022?

Don't be surprised if there are at least 10 positive cases at each of the next 3 or 4 Grand Slams. 10 out of 1,000 people is a very realistic possibility.

That is almost the norm if you show up at work every single day in today's world. We are 100 employees at my work and 3 tested positive in the past 4 weeks. The 10 coworkers that were in contact with them were also quarantined. Every time a person tests positive, they shut down our offices for disinfection for 24 hours. 24 hours later, the remaining 70 or 80 employees are all back at work, it's business as usual. The ones that are quarantined work from home if they can. Life goes on.
The irony of your opening line....SMH.
 

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Looking at the positive side, I think this will make all the players in Palermo realize that this is an actual threat and that there is a reason why protocols need to be followed. They probably now fully understand how easily this bubble could burst, and I'm sure they've all suffered a lot from not being able to even hit a ball to risk a chance of screwing this up not just for themselves but also for the rest of the tour.

At the same time, I'm not concerned about the lower ranked players but more about the high profile ones who think the rules don't apply to them as we've seen with Thiem, Dimitrov and Djokovic.
 

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I assumed this was the process? Are they being more lacks than this?
Because news reports say that they had to trace people she came into contact with, I’m assuming they’re not required to do a strict lockdown/quarantine ahead of getting results from the on-arrival test.
 

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Because news reports say that they had to trace people she came into contact with, I’m assuming they’re not required to do a strict lockdown/quarantine ahead of getting results from the on-arrival test.
Players are tested upon arrival and isolated in their hotel rooms for 24 hours until the test returns negative. Only then they are allowed to book courts. There's only one player per locker room allowed, and the gym and phisioterapist need to be reserved in advance. This is all according to Nadia Podoroska's statements.
 

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It´s not a big deal, there will be positive tests, every sport competition has them. The thing is, In team sports you just change the player and problem solved. With individual sports is more difficult. Formula 1 is already having that issue and it´s a small group of drivers. You can make tennis players withdraw, but if a small women´s only tournament in an almost coronavirus free zone has a positive player, logic says there will be more cases in bigger tournaments like the Us Open with 300+ players travelling from all over the world. Let´s hope there aren´t, though.
A big impact on the player that tested positive as she will probably be stuck in a hotel room in Palermo for 2 or 3 weeks with no training in a short season. It will be a month before she can be at her top level again.
 

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The positive player should withdraw but the tournament should continue. WTT has gone on without a hitch.
 

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A big impact on the player that tested positive as she will probably be stuck in a hotel room in Palermo for 2 or 3 weeks with no training in a short season. It will be a month before she can be at her top level again.
So be it...that’s what needs to happen.
 

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Players are tested upon arrival and isolated in their hotel rooms for 24 hours until the test returns negative. Only then they are allowed to book courts. There's only one player per locker room allowed, and the gym and phisioterapist need to be reserved in advance. This is all according to Nadia Podoroska's statements.
Yup Paquet said the same thing. Also only 2 person per car so it takes a little longer .

The tournament was not able to book the entire hotel but the players have a separate dining room


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A big impact on the player that tested positive as she will probably be stuck in a hotel room in Palermo for 2 or 3 weeks with no training in a short season. It will be a month before she can be at her top level again.
You have no idea whether or not that will be the case. Of course there's a 99.999% chance that she will resume her career as normal, but what if she is one of those people who is more badly affected? Kalinskaya got it and she hasn't played since (not even exhibitions), even though she says she's OK.
 

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Because news reports say that they had to trace people she came into contact with, I’m assuming they’re not required to do a strict lockdown/quarantine ahead of getting results from the on-arrival test.
It would seem pretty obvious that Tomova did NOT contract Covid-19 in Palermo. Whilst it's probably fairly easy to test her family and friends (flatmates?) that have been close to her at home, how are the authorities possibly going to contact-trace everyone else that she got close to in the previous couple of weeks, INCLUDING all those in (presumably) Sofia airport? Does the Bulgarian government have any sort of tracing app like there is in New Zealand, Singapore and other countries?

And, going forward, that will be the problem for any other player who tests positive upon arrival. As we saw with Frances Tiafoe, he had a negative test in Florida before travelling to Atlanta, but still tested positive there four days later. Where did he get it, and was it possible for the authorities there to trace everyone with whom he had been in contact? The USTA is requiring all incoming players to have tested negative before they travel to New York, but there's no guarantee that they won't somehow get infected between that test and the one they get on arrival.
 

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Life needs to keep moving. Just one case and is the end of the world :rolleyes: There are protocols already in place. I don't like when people ignore the virus. But the overreaction and this "weall are gonna die" attitude is useless
 

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Some info on the process


After clearing passport control they are put into an official tournament car, in which they are obliged to wear a PPE-style Perspex face cover. During the journey, air conditioning is not allowed and the windows must be down.

At the hotel they must go straight to a lorry in the car park to be tested by medics wearing Hazmat suits. They are then escorted to their rooms, which they are not allowed to leave until a negative test is returned, usually within 24 hours




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Don't know why you're going out of your way to tell everyone you're wrong most of the time 🤣 🤭
I guess trying to get along with certain people doesn't work.

Well, I tried.
 

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There are going to be some positives. That is why you test. It doesnt mean you shut down a tournament. Let that player go home and test her before her next tournament
What if the player is a Doubles partner at a Slam,and recovers in a wk and is not contages.Could she be replaced and when better ,(under acovid exemption) zap back and Tag her partner and show back up in say a Semi orFinal.So as to be less disruptive.
 
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