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The reason why I ask this question is because since everyone has claimed the reason Venus was booed in 2001 semis, and 2002 semis among other matches is because:

1. She is not the underdog, and the poor little girl on the other side of the net deserves support.

2. She is always winning everything, too dominant. She never loses anything and we want to see new winner

3. Venus and Serena are destroying tennis with their dominance
We don't want the Williams sisters to win all the time.

Fast forward 1 1/2 years later

1. Venus has not won a slam in 1 1/2 years losing to her little sister which is a consolation, but not the goal of a champion.
Other girls are being touted as the favorite for the open. They have made Venus the underdog.

2. Venus has been injured and has not won everything as of late, and these injuries has hampered her progress.

3. No Serena here so people cannot cry about how the sisters are destroying tennis at the USO.

Now, if Venus gets booed at the USO now then I know for sure that it's racism and their will be no denying it. Sorry, but if Venus meets up against Justine or Kim and the crowd starts to react like they did in the 2001 semis against Capriati, and the 2002 semis against Amelie then that will confirm it.

JMO!!!
GO VENUS!! :D
 

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she has been cheered at the us open before. in 97 and in and 1999 and 2000. i dont remember 98
 
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LOL DA BACKHAND
But who knows if Venus will be booed. Id worry more abiut Justine to be honest
 

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Actually Harloo you have a strong case. Of course many already know the truth behind the booing, but maybe others will see the light.

Now what I am actually curious to see and HEAR(if me little ears can stand it)... IS how the biased COMMENTATORS are gonna get out of it. It will be a treat to hear Pam and Mary Jo and a few other dumbasses.. explain away the crowds behavior when they boo Venus, WHILE BEING THE UNDERDOG.

Can't hardly wait.:)
 

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Dawn Marie said:
Actually Harloo you have a strong case. Of course many already know the truth behind the booing, but maybe others will see the light.

Now what I am actually curious to see and HEAR(if me little ears can stand it)... IS how the biased COMMENTATORS are gonna get out of it. It will be a treat to hear Pam and Mary Jo and a few other dumbasses.. explain away the crowds behavior when they boo Venus, WHILE BEING THE UNDERDOG.

Can't hardly wait.:)
Forget it. If the other player is Kim or Justine, they'll start out saying they're favored, then after Venus gets ahead, they'll just call Justine/Kim the underdog. Otherwise, they'll just say venus is favored.

Still, cut them some slack. Outside of football (soccer), what sport have you EVER heard a commentator talking about white bias in that sport. Sometimes you get a 'long, long ago there was a problem', but that's about it. Commentators aren't paid to make their sports look bad.

Pam and Mary Jo wouldn't have admitted Althea Gibson faced white racism if they had been the announcers then.
 

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Venus had strong crowd support from 97-00.

Out of the players today she's won the MOST US Opens and has been the most dominant player there in the last 3 years (winning twice and being a finalist last year). I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd supported the underdog (i.e. whoever faced her) again. She's the favourite.
 

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Volcana, I agree they'll play that lil hat trick. By calling KIM AND JUSTINE the underdog if she starts getting ahead and thus more crowd booing.

BUT I disagree about cutting Mary jo and Pam and other commentators some slack. I have seen many commentators state commentatory in an unbiased tone and I refuse to give them dumbasses any slack. They need to give the fans and the T.V. viewers some RESPECT first.

Waiting to see if Mary Carillo and company state ways to beat Kim and Justine. Lord knows how many times she stated ways to beat the Sisters. "You have to keep the ball down the middle" HA HA ..

oh lordy I know I'll be waiting a lifetime. rotflmao.:)
 

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Dawn Marie said:
Actually Harloo you have a strong case. Of course many already know the truth behind the booing, but maybe others will see the light.

Now what I am actually curious to see and HEAR(if me little ears can stand it)... IS how the biased COMMENTATORS are gonna get out of it. It will be a treat to hear Pam and Mary Jo and a few other dumbasses.. explain away the crowds behavior when they boo Venus, WHILE BEING THE UNDERDOG.

Can't hardly wait.:)
there will be no Pam and Mary Joe unless they have switched over to USA Network. Pam is sometimes a sideline reporter for CBS, but Carillo McEnroe, and Dick Enberg or one other guy(can't think of his name) usually call for CBS. We do have to listen to Tracy Austin though.
 

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Dawn Marie said:
Waiting to see if Mary Carillo and company state ways to beat Kim and Justine. Lord knows how many times she stated ways to beat the Sisters. "You have to keep the ball down the middle" HA HA ..

oh lordy I know I'll be waiting a lifetime. rotflmao.:)
I've been waiting for this all my life also. How to beat Justine and Kim.
 

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Venus has always been a crowd favorite at the US Open.
 

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I sure don't remember the crowd booing Venus last year. Sure, they cheered Mauresmo, and you can certainly argue that that is weird/racist/whatever.

But there are a lot of vocal Venus fans at the Open. I've been there every year since 97 and she's always gotten a lot of support. The crowd was definitely rooting for her from 97 through 2000. Maybe the last couple of years not so much. Maybe now more.
 

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You ppl keep sayin Serena and Venus are the "REAL" #1 and 2, and in this thread u guys say they're the underdogs? Venus is still the favorite to win the US OPEN IMO.
 

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So you are saying Venus is now the "real" underdog right Dawn?

Following that logic, I don't expect to hear you in threads about Venus being the "real" #2 ;)
But on the other hand people are sayin that Clijsters and Henin are better than Venus now and that they are definitely the second and third best players, and are favorites to win the Open, but yet they still use the underdog excuse as to why crowds cheer against Venus and Serena.
 

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I don't get it, the same people who're saying Martina was the most unpopular player (and now Justine), who post that the Williams sisters are the most popular, those very same people complain about them not being popular sometimes :confused:

Has Venus really received such a terrible treatment at the US Open?

And underdog doesn't necessarily have to mean in every match. When people want someone other than Serena to win, they're not goint to root against Kim or Justine when they're playing a low ranked player because then Serena's main rivals would be out.
 
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