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why everyone needs henin to win this match

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Henin needs henin to win this match.
She should underscore her 2 slam titles this year with the No 1 ranking. No one should win 2 slams in a year and not have made number 1. Its just not good kharma :). She deserves it. Her style of play is different to many players and that is a positive thing. When the game is getting more and more dominated by wonderful tall big serving powerful players, the contrast of a different type of player is good.

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Tennis needs henin to win this match.
Henin needs the ranking to really lay down the gauntlet to the williams sisters and anyone else who thinks that they have the balls, including clijsters, capriati, davenport mauresmo, seles (god willing, but i doubt it), pierce and the great russians....... she needs make the statement 'sure you are great, but im no. 1 now and if you think you are better then you have to come play a lot and prove it. They probably will, and that will be good too. :)

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Clijsters needs henin to win this match
Yes, she does! Kim is a really great player. She is too good for all the crap that is talked about her being the only No 1 without a slam. Beating justine tomorrow will not put to rest the simmering dissatisfaction that she is No 1 but still slamless. In fact, it will get worse :( . They will start to say that she can only do it in the lesser tournaments.
She is way too good to endure that. Let justine get to No 1, and let Kim come out in the slams next year and prove what a great player whe really is, and get No 1 the old fashioned way that people will have to respect :) .


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Fogive me, but what is with the "because shes smaller lets feel sorry for her" crap?
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arcus said:
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Serendy Willick said:
Fogive me, but what is with the "because shes smaller lets feel sorry for her" crap?
that's right! omg that's what the poster said!!!! let's applaud your reading comprehension skills...

I don't believe most Williams fans will ever concede that Justine's game is not a mixture of finesse and power or that Justine's game is different from the Williams, Jenn, Lindsay, Kim, etc. I don't know why. :confused:
Serendy Willick said:
Fogive me, but what is with the "because shes smaller lets feel sorry for her" crap?
I forgive you, but um, I dont think that anyone said that......... :rolleyes: :)

I sure didn't. ;)

If you are tall, then its easier to serve big, and that is an advanatage in tennis. Look at average heights of the general population and tennis players........... HELLO!!! Player who are shorter have to find different ways to win and that is not better or worse, but its interesting. Michael Chang is a good example. I wasnt a big fan, but I really respected how he developed skills that suited his physique, compensated for the fact that he was't going to get as many service winners.
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This thread... :rolleyes:
Can't we just enjoy the game?! All the girls are providing really good and exciting fare for us tennis fans. It'll be exciting to see how 2004 pans out.

As for Justine and Kim's match tomorrow...I say they BOTH need to win. Let's see who actually does!
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arcus said:
I forgive you, but um, I dont think that anyone said that......... :rolleyes: :)

I sure didn't. ;)

If you are tall, then its easier to serve big, and that is an advanatage in tennis. Look at average heights of the general population and tennis players........... HELLO!!! Player who are shorter have to find different ways to win and that is not better or worse, but its interesting. Michael Chang is a good example. I wasnt a big fan, but I really respected how he developed skills that suited his physique, compensated for the fact that he was't going to get as many service winners.

Venus is 6'1 and her second serve still gives her problems. Lindsay is one of the tallest on the tour and I dont see her serves (nowdays) helping her at all against the belgians :rolleyes: Jennifer is about as tall as Serena and her serve certainly isnt an overpowering weapon. Do you know how they get those serves? Its by constant tooling and improvement in that area, not because they were bigger and taller. Cheater has proven this summer that you can have a consistant serving speed with the taller players, how did she do it? By improving.
vs1 said:
:lol:
This thread... :rolleyes:
Can't we just enjoy the game?! All the girls are providing really good and exciting fare for us tennis fans. It'll be exciting to see how 2004 pans out.

As for Justine and Kim's match tomorrow...I say they BOTH need to win. Let's see who actually does!
you're so wise
vs1 said:
:lol:
This thread... :rolleyes:
Can't we just enjoy the game?! All the girls are providing really good and exciting fare for us tennis fans. It'll be exciting to see how 2004 pans out.

As for Justine and Kim's match tomorrow...I say they BOTH need to win. Let's see who actually does!
Your 'common sense' is no good here :D
vs1 said:
:lol:
This thread... :rolleyes:
Can't we just enjoy the game?! All the girls are providing really good and exciting fare for us tennis fans. It'll be exciting to see how 2004 pans out.

As for Justine and Kim's match tomorrow...I say they BOTH need to win. Let's see who actually does!
I agree vs1. yup, they are doing a great job.
Im jsut saying that a change in the rankings will help things be even more exciting and will help everyone enjoy things more. :) :) :)

Like I said this is not a partisan thread.
BTW, can yall tell who i prefer....kim or justine?
Serendy Willick said:
Venus is 6'1 and her second serve still gives her problems. Lindsay is one of the tallest on the tour and I dont see her serves (nowdays) helping her at all against the belgians :rolleyes: Jennifer is about as tall as Serena and her serve certainly isnt an overpowering weapon. Do you know how they get those serves? Its by constant tooling and improvement in that area, not because they were bigger and taller. Cheater has proven this summer that you can have a consistant serving speed with the taller players, how did she do it? By improving.
And your point being that "height is not an advantage on serve"? hmmmm..riiiiiiiiiighty-ho....... :tape: :tape: :tape: :tape: :) :) :) :)


seriously, though, I would much rather "tool alnd improve" with more inches than less inches. :devil: OMG that sounded rude!!!!!!!!!!....... eek!
nice thread, i didn't agree with your last one (can't remember what it was) but this one is money.

Tennis needs Henin to take the #1 away from Kim because Kim is still the Williams sisters pushover, kissing up to them and stuff (like saying Serena is still the true #1). Whereas Justine is getting right in the Williams sisters face and not really respecting them as much. If Justine's #1, V & S have to go after her because they've got something to prove against Justine (they have nothing to prove against Kim). The Williams fans know this and that's why you see some of them hating so much on Justine (or in the case of the clever Tee Rexx, spinning against her) and being luvvy-duvvy over Kim.
vogus said:
nice thread, i didn't agree with your last one (can't remember what it was) but this one is money.

Tennis needs Henin to take the #1 away from Kim because Kim is still the Williams sisters pushover, kissing up to them and stuff (like saying Serena is still the true #1). Whereas Justine is getting right in the Williams sisters face and not really respecting them as much. If Justine's #1, V & S have to go after her because they've got something to prove against Justine (they have nothing to prove against Kim). The Williams fans know this and that's why you see some of them hating so much on Justine (or in the case of the clever Tee Rexx, spinning against her) and being luvvy-duvvy over Kim.

Clijsters is a class act. When she deals with the press she wont get dragged into a bitchin' match :) . Some folk here could learn from that ;) , I respect her for that. Its so unexpected from someone that dates Mr hewitt :p

Its not a matter of sucking up, IMO, just dealing with the media and being professional, respectful and honest. Sure she recognises that she is not the player that the other pros think the best in the world right now, not till she has some slams under her belt. In private, I bet she wants to beat everyone elso real bad, maybe so bad that she gets too nervous on the big occassions.....

Would be nice to see her get some slams next year. ..... :)
vogus said:
nice thread, i didn't agree with your last one (can't remember what it was) but this one is money.

Tennis needs Henin to take the #1 away from Kim because Kim is still the Williams sisters pushover, kissing up to them and stuff (like saying Serena is still the true #1). Whereas Justine is getting right in the Williams sisters face and not really respecting them as much. If Justine's #1, V & S have to go after her because they've got something to prove against Justine (they have nothing to prove against Kim). The Williams fans know this and that's why you see some of them hating so much on Justine (or in the case of the clever Tee Rexx, spinning against her) and being luvvy-duvvy over Kim.
Kim is just telling the truth when she says V and S are the two best players. Venus and Serena have nothing to prove against Justine, Juju has to prove she can beat them consistently. Having the title of #1 means nothing to the sisters, they look at Justine for Justine and Kim for Kim or whoever they are facing. Their opponents ranking or stature means nothing and will not affect the sisters in the least.
Hello! Interesting thread, arcus.

Pundits seem to be so enthralled by Justine's game (see J. McEnroe), but the reasons are often disingenuous, because:

a) The power game somehow became synonymous with a lack of a brain when the Williams sisters became so good at it. Huh?

b) Henin is a great player, no doubt about it. But the distinction people try to make is that she is successful because of her 'smart' play - as if she doesn't slug the crap out of the ball, or the other players don't use their heads.

Many people detest the Williams sisters for being two African-American sisters whipping their opponents. Typical reaction. Only a few days ago, Jan Stephenson, ex golf-pro, claimed that Asians were ruining the LPGA.
I can stuff the race card back in my pocket, but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably isn't some other animal.
Deimos said:
Hello! Interesting thread, arcus.

Pundits seem to be so enthralled by Justine's game (see J. McEnroe), but the reasons are often disingenuous, because:

a) The power game somehow became synonymous with a lack of a brain when the Williams sisters became so good at it. Huh?

b) Henin is a great player, no doubt about it. But the distinction people try to make is that she is successful because of her 'smart' play - as if she doesn't slug the crap out of the ball, or the other players don't use their heads.

Many people detest the Williams sisters for being two African-American sisters whipping their opponents. Typical reaction. Only a few days ago, Jan Stephenson, ex golf-pro, claimed that Asians were ruining the LPGA.
I can stuff the race card back in my pocket, but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably isn't some other animal.
Yeah, when Lindsay was playing: serve-one groundstroke-win the point it wasn´t bad! Hey Lindsay is talented...blah blah.

when the sisters came up playing the same style but with better athletiscism it became mindless tennis and they only win because they are fast, powerful and this and that. Pluuzzz!!
I dont thikn Kim wants Henin to win just bc she knows she isnt a worthy number 1 :rolleyes:
Experimentee said:
I dont thikn Kim wants Henin to win just bc she knows she isnt a worthy number 1 :rolleyes:
course not, but in the long run life might end up being better for her if she has to go back to trying to win slams rather than dealing with all this "should she be or shouldnt be No 1" crap all the time.
I doubt Kim cares about whether people think she should be #1 or not. She doesnt even think she should herself. Shes just happy to be ranked where she is. If anything she'll want to prove her #1 spot by beating Justine.
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