why everyone needs henin to win this match

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arcus

Discussion Starter · Oct 12, 2003 (Edited)

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Henin needs henin to win this match.
She should underscore her 2 slam titles this year with the No 1 ranking. No one should win 2 slams in a year and not have made number 1. Its just not good kharma

. She deserves it. Her style of play is different to many players and that is a positive thing. When the game is getting more and more dominated by wonderful tall big serving powerful players, the contrast of a different type of player is good.

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Tennis needs henin to win this match.
Henin needs the ranking to really lay down the gauntlet to the williams sisters and anyone else who thinks that they have the balls, including clijsters, capriati, davenport mauresmo, seles (god willing, but i doubt it), pierce and the great russians....... she needs make the statement 'sure you are great, but im no. 1 now and if you think you are better then you have to come play a lot and prove it. They probably will, and that will be good too.

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Clijsters needs henin to win this match
Yes, she does! Kim is a really great player. She is too good for all the crap that is talked about her being the only No 1 without a slam. Beating justine tomorrow will not put to rest the simmering dissatisfaction that she is No 1 but still slamless. In fact, it will get worse

. They will start to say that she can only do it in the lesser tournaments.
She is way too good to endure that. Let justine get to No 1, and let Kim come out in the slams next year and prove what a great player whe really is, and get No 1 the old fashioned way that people will have to respect

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Knizzle

· #2 · Oct 12, 2003

arcus said:
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Henin needs henin to win this match.
She should underscore her 2 slam titles with the No 1 ranking. No one should win 2 slams in a year and not have made number 1. Its just not good kharma She deserves it, and her style of play is different to many players and that is a positive thing, and when the game is getting more and more dominated by wonderful tall big serving powerful players, than contrast is good.

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Tennis needs henin to win this match.
Henin needs the ranking to really lay down the gauntlet to the williams sisters and anyone else who thinks that they have the balls....... she needs make the statement 'sure you are great, but im no. 1 now and if you think you are better then you have to come play a lot and prove it. They probably will, and that will be good too.

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Clijsters needs henin to win this match
Yes, she does! Kim is a great player. She is too good for all the crap that is talked about her. Beating justine tommorrow will not put to rest the simmering dissatisfaction that she is No 1 and still slamless. In fact, it will only get worse. They will start to say that she can only do it in the lesser tournaments. She is way too good to endure that. Let justine get to No 1, and let Kim come out in the slams next year and prove what a great layer whe really is, and get No 1 the old fashioned waythat people will ahve to respect .

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Don't agree with 2 and 3, but #1 is reasonable.

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Knizzle

· #9 · Oct 12, 2003

The problem is that Kim can easily take the #1 right back from Henin next week and then Henin has to defend her title at Linz the next week whereas Kim has Luxembourg to defend. Henin has more to lose and it will be very easy for Kim to defend that tier 3 title.

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Knizzle

· #11 · Oct 12, 2003

disposablehero said:
#4: Fans of other players, particularly heavily-tanned Americans or height-challenged Walloons, are terrified of the idea that Kim might some day get it all together.

Heavily tanned Americans?? That's weak, real weak.

Get what together?? Her subpar serve??

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Knizzle

· #14 · Oct 12, 2003

arcus said:
groan..........

this was not a thread to disrespect the wiliams sisters. Nor was it a thread to suggest that no one had the balls to compete with henin. And no, I did not say that she didn't try to hit hard
This was not EVEN a partisan thread.......

Im just saying that henin getting to No 1 would be jsutified and would set things up to get everyone enthusiastic about the fun for the rest of of the season and next year.

And in terms of playing style, yes,I think that she is different. Shorter stature, so not so many service winners....her one-handed backhand is differentand not justt cos she hits with one hand, but she has a lot of variety on it, she uses of angles really wellyada yada. Its not a criticism of other players, just saying that the way she plays is a nice contrast to see.

Justine isn't in great contrast to the others in the top ten.

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Knizzle

· #17 · Oct 12, 2003

arcus said:
Sure, knizzle, she s not a serve-volleyer, but....... doe she play different from davenport, williams, williams capriati, etc eh?, ...Um yeah, and.....

johnny mac thinks she does

bud collins thinks she does

martina navratilova thinks she does

pam schriver thinks she does

Mary-joe fernandez thinks she does

Mary carillo thinks she does

but FAR more importantly (ahem)......
I think she does...

What about Mauresmo then?? The only thing Justine does different is slice the backhand and there is another top tenner who does that just as much.

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Knizzle

· #34 · Oct 12, 2003 (Edited)

vogus said:
nice thread, i didn't agree with your last one (can't remember what it was) but this one is money.

Tennis needs Henin to take the #1 away from Kim because Kim is still the Williams sisters pushover, kissing up to them and stuff (like saying Serena is still the true #1). Whereas Justine is getting right in the Williams sisters face and not really respecting them as much. If Justine's #1, V & S have to go after her because they've got something to prove against Justine (they have nothing to prove against Kim). The Williams fans know this and that's why you see some of them hating so much on Justine (or in the case of the clever Tee Rexx, spinning against her) and being luvvy-duvvy over Kim.

Kim is just telling the truth when she says V and S are the two best players. Venus and Serena have nothing to prove against Justine, Juju has to prove she can beat them consistently. Having the title of #1 means nothing to the sisters, they look at Justine for Justine and Kim for Kim or whoever they are facing. Their opponents ranking or stature means nothing and will not affect the sisters in the least.

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