[arcus]

1]
Henin needs henin to win this match.
She should underscore her 2 slam titles this year with the No 1 ranking. No one should win 2 slams in a year and not have made number 1. Its just not good kharma . She deserves it. Her style of play is different to many players and that is a positive thing. When the game is getting more and more dominated by wonderful tall big serving powerful players, the contrast of a different type of player is good.

2]
Tennis needs henin to win this match.
Henin needs the ranking to really lay down the gauntlet to the williams sisters and anyone else who thinks that they have the balls, including clijsters, capriati, davenport mauresmo, seles (god willing, but i doubt it), pierce and the great russians....... she needs make the statement 'sure you are great, but im no. 1 now and if you think you are better then you have to come play a lot and prove it. They probably will, and that will be good too.

3]
Clijsters needs henin to win this match
Yes, she does! Kim is a really great player. She is too good for all the crap that is talked about her being the only No 1 without a slam. Beating justine tomorrow will not put to rest the simmering dissatisfaction that she is No 1 but still slamless. In fact, it will get worse . They will start to say that she can only do it in the lesser tournaments.
She is way too good to endure that. Let justine get to No 1, and let Kim come out in the slams next year and prove what a great player whe really is, and get No 1 the old fashioned way that people will have to respect .


Please discuss:

 

[Knizzle]

1]
Henin needs henin to win this match.
She should underscore her 2 slam titles with the No 1 ranking. No one should win 2 slams in a year and not have made number 1. Its just not good kharma She deserves it, and her style of play is different to many players and that is a positive thing, and when the game is getting more and more dominated by wonderful tall big serving powerful players, than contrast is good.

2]
Tennis needs henin to win this match.
Henin needs the ranking to really lay down the gauntlet to the williams sisters and anyone else who thinks that they have the balls....... she needs make the statement 'sure you are great, but im no. 1 now and if you think you are better then you have to come play a lot and prove it. They probably will, and that will be good too.

3]
Clijsters needs henin to win this match
Yes, she does! Kim is a great player. She is too good for all the crap that is talked about her. Beating justine tommorrow will not put to rest the simmering dissatisfaction that she is No 1 and still slamless. In fact, it will only get worse. They will start to say that she can only do it in the lesser tournaments. She is way too good to endure that. Let justine get to No 1, and let Kim come out in the slams next year and prove what a great layer whe really is, and get No 1 the old fashioned waythat people will ahve to respect .


Please discuss:

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Don't agree with 2 and 3, but #1 is reasonable.

 

[Cybelle Darkholme]

1]
Henin needs henin to win this match.
She should underscore her 2 slam titles with the No 1 ranking. No one should win 2 slams in a year and not have made number 1. Its just not good kharma She deserves it, and her style of play is different to many players and that is a positive thing, and when the game is getting more and more dominated by wonderful tall big serving powerful players, than contrast is good.

2]
Tennis needs henin to win this match.
Henin needs the ranking to really lay down the gauntlet to the williams sisters and anyone else who thinks that they have the balls....... she needs make the statement 'sure you are great, but im no. 1 now and if you think you are better then you have to come play a lot and prove it. They probably will, and that will be good too.

3]
Clijsters needs henin to win this match
Yes, she does! Kim is a great player. She is too good for all the crap that is talked about her. Beating justine tommorrow will not put to rest the simmering dissatisfaction that she is No 1 and still slamless. In fact, it will only get worse. They will start to say that she can only do it in the lesser tournaments. She is way too good to endure that. Let justine get to No 1, and let Kim come out in the slams next year and prove what a great layer whe really is, and get No 1 the old fashioned waythat people will ahve to respect .


Please discuss:

basically I think this is bullshit. Henin doesn't need to win. she wont up and die if she loses. Tennis doesn't need her to win either. The sport will go on. its not going anywhere.

what tennis truly needs is two players to come out and compete with the intensity of competitors and rivals. thats all tennis needs. may the best player win.

GO KIM!

 

[arcus]

basically I think this is bullshit. Henin doesn't need to win. she wont up and die if she loses. Tennis doesn't need her to win either. The sport will go on. its not going anywhere.

what tennis truly needs is two players to come out and compete with the intensity of competitors and rivals. thats all tennis needs. may the best player win.

GO KIM!

I dont think that I said anyone was going to die

I think that henin deserves to have achieved the number 1 ranking, having won 2 slams this year. After all, she could get an injury in the morning and never play again. I just think that what she has done this year is worth a 1 ranking.

I think that the championships and next season would be really exciting if henin went in as no1. I think it would excite the world, bring in more fans, make people interested yada yada. I think she owuld strugle t keep it. It would be intersting to see her try to defend her points and ranking at the slams.

I think that in the long run clijsters should be a no1 player. She is awesome, and her personality is tremendous, so whe is a great player to romiote the game. Im a ig fan. But she should aget the number 1 ranking with slams. I think she might play better when the attention of being no 1 without slams is off her, thats all.

 

[Sam L]

I'm pretty sure Henin is going to end the year #1 anyway. I.e. I don't see Kim defending the Tour C'ships so it's not such a desperate situation.

But yeah, I wouldn't want Kim to end the year #1.

 

[arcus]

Thats true sam L

Although clijsters is def good enough to win in that tournament............and I'd like to se her win it too, but id prefer to see her win some slams......

 

[disposablehero]

#4: Fans of other players, particularly heavily-tanned Americans or height-challenged Walloons, are terrified of the idea that Kim might some day get it all together.

 

[Serendy Willick]

1]
Henin needs henin to win this match.
She should underscore her 2 slam titles this year with the No 1 ranking. No one should win 2 slams in a year and not have made number 1. Its just not good kharma . She deserves it. Her style of play is different to many players and that is a positive thing. When the game is getting more and more dominated by wonderful tall big serving powerful players, the contrast of a different type of player is good.

2]
Tennis needs henin to win this match.
Henin needs the ranking to really lay down the gauntlet to the williams sisters and anyone else who thinks that they have the balls, including clijsters, capriati, davenport mauresmo, seles (god willing, but i doubt it), pierce and the great russians....... she needs make the statement 'sure you are great, but im no. 1 now and if you think you are better then you have to come play a lot and prove it. They probably will, and that will be good too.


Get real. The Balls? IMPO Cheater wouldnt been looking at that US Open trophy if two of the top hardcourt players hadnt been out with injury. Her style of play is different? With the the exception of the backhand how? She all but switched to the power game when she went running to Pat Etchebarry. If Cheater wins, thats nice, she would've earned it. Not by noone not having balls to challenger her..

 

[Knizzle]

The problem is that Kim can easily take the #1 right back from Henin next week and then Henin has to defend her title at Linz the next week whereas Kim has Luxembourg to defend. Henin has more to lose and it will be very easy for Kim to defend that tier 3 title.

 

[bandabou]

#4: Fans of other players, particularly heavily-tanned Americans or height-challenged Walloons, are terrified of the idea that Kim might some day get it all together.

Not! Kim plays the same way as the Williams, but the Williams do it better, sooo.....no reason to fear there.

 

[Knizzle]

#4: Fans of other players, particularly heavily-tanned Americans or height-challenged Walloons, are terrified of the idea that Kim might some day get it all together.

Heavily tanned Americans?? That's weak, real weak.

Get what together?? Her subpar serve??

 

[bandabou]

Heavily tanned Americans?? That's weak, real weak.

Get what together?? Her subpar serve??

:haha: :smash:

 

[arcus]

1]
Henin needs henin to win this match.
She should underscore her 2 slam titles this year with the No 1 ranking. No one should win 2 slams in a year and not have made number 1. Its just not good kharma . She deserves it. Her style of play is different to many players and that is a positive thing. When the game is getting more and more dominated by wonderful tall big serving powerful players, the contrast of a different type of player is good.

2]
Tennis needs henin to win this match.
Henin needs the ranking to really lay down the gauntlet to the williams sisters and anyone else who thinks that they have the balls, including clijsters, capriati, davenport mauresmo, seles (god willing, but i doubt it), pierce and the great russians....... she needs make the statement 'sure you are great, but im no. 1 now and if you think you are better then you have to come play a lot and prove it. They probably will, and that will be good too.


Get real. The Balls? IMPO Cheater wouldnt been looking at that US Open trophy if two of the top hardcourt players hadnt been out with injury. Her style of play is different? With the the exception of the backhand how? She all but switched to the power game when she went running to Pat Etchebarry. If Cheater wins, thats nice, she would've earned it. Not by noone not having balls to challenger her..

groan..........

this was not a thread to disrespect the wiliams sisters. Nor was it a thread to suggest that no one had the balls to compete with henin. And no, I did not say that she didn't try to hit hard
This was not EVEN a partisan thread.......

Im just saying that henin getting to No 1 would be jsutified and would set things up to get everyone enthusiastic about the fun for the rest of of the season and next year.


And in terms of playing style, yes,I think that she is different. Shorter stature, so not so many service winners....her one-handed backhand is different and not just cos she hits with one hand, but cos she has a lot of variety on it, she uses angles really well....yada yada.

Its not a criticism of other players, just saying that the way she plays is a nice contrast to see.

 

[Knizzle]

groan..........

this was not a thread to disrespect the wiliams sisters. Nor was it a thread to suggest that no one had the balls to compete with henin. And no, I did not say that she didn't try to hit hard
This was not EVEN a partisan thread.......

Im just saying that henin getting to No 1 would be jsutified and would set things up to get everyone enthusiastic about the fun for the rest of of the season and next year.


And in terms of playing style, yes,I think that she is different. Shorter stature, so not so many service winners....her one-handed backhand is differentand not justt cos she hits with one hand, but she has a lot of variety on it, she uses of angles really wellyada yada. Its not a criticism of other players, just saying that the way she plays is a nice contrast to see.

Justine isn't in great contrast to the others in the top ten.

 

[bandabou]

groan..........

this was not a thread to disrespect the wiliams sisters. Nor was it a thread to suggest that no one had the balls to compete with henin. And no, I did not say that she didn't try to hit hard
This was not EVEN a partisan thread.......

Im just saying that henin getting to No 1 would be jsutified and would set things up to get everyone enthusiastic about the fun for the rest of of the season and next year.


And in terms of playing style, yes,I think that she is different. Shorter stature, so not so many service winners....her one-handed backhand is different and not just cos she hits with one hand, but cos she has a lot of variety on it, she uses angles really well....yada yada.

Its not a criticism of other players, just saying that the way she plays is a nice contrast to see.

Where´s the variety?! When she comes to the net, she rarely wins the point...she hits a one-handed backhand?! Cool, but ask Venus what she thinks of that backhand.

All baseline-game to me...

 

[arcus]

Justine isn't in great contrast to the others in the top ten.

Sure, knizzle, she s not a serve-volleyer, but....... doe she play different from davenport, williams, williams capriati, etc eh?, ...Um yeah, and.....

johnny mac thinks she does

bud collins thinks she does

martina navratilova thinks she does

pam schriver thinks she does

Mary-joe fernandez thinks she does

Mary carillo thinks she does

but FAR more importantly (ahem)......
I think she does...

 

[Knizzle]

Sure, knizzle, she s not a serve-volleyer, but....... doe she play different from davenport, williams, williams capriati, etc eh?, ...Um yeah, and.....

johnny mac thinks she does

bud collins thinks she does

martina navratilova thinks she does

pam schriver thinks she does

Mary-joe fernandez thinks she does

Mary carillo thinks she does

but FAR more importantly (ahem)......
I think she does...

What about Mauresmo then?? The only thing Justine does different is slice the backhand and there is another top tenner who does that just as much.

 

[arcus]

Where´s the variety?! When she comes to the net, she rarely wins the point...she hits a one-handed backhand?! Cool, but ask Venus what she thinks of that backhand.

All baseline-game to me...

well being a baseliner doesnt mean that you are the same as all other baseliners. I know what you mean. baseliner and servevolleyer is a better contrast. But there are so few serve volleyers at the moment

So some baseliners play a bit differently and that is good.

seles plays from the back, but not quite the same way as the williams for example. It subtle, I know, but it matters. NOt to say that one is better than another, jsut that variteymamkes for great tennis to watch

 

[arcus]

What about Mauresmo then?? The only thing Justine does different is slice the backhand and there is another top tenner who does that just as much.

Great example knizzle, I agree. ASctually I didnt say that henin was the only player to play differently, just that she is different from some of the other grat players that are out there today.

mauresmo........

I like her variety a lot. All the looping shots, but the power as well. great shot making ability, but a bit mentally fragile.....

Its all about the contrasts...

 

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