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Serena Williams.

Who else??
 

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current active players to have beaten Steffi Graf (number of times included):

Courtesy of tenniscorner's great archives <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Jennifer Capriati - 1<br />Amanda Coetzer - 4<br />Lindsay Davenport - 6<br />Amy Frazier - 1 (retired match)<br />Martina Hingis - 2<br />Anna Kournikova - 1<br />Conchita Martinez - 1<br />Mary Pierce - 2<br />Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario - 8<br />Patty Schnyder - 1<br />Monica Seles - 5<br />Magui Serna - 1<br />Ai Sugiyama - 1<br />Serena Williams - 1<br />Venus Williams - 2

Schnyder's the only one to have a winning record on Steffi in this group at 1-0, and Serena has an even record at 1-1.
 

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me, on our housewall when I was kid <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
 

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ok, these are some...

Lindsay Davenport 6-4, 7-5 at Wimbledon...forgot what year...

Anna Kournikova def. Steffi Graf 6-7 (4-7), 6-3, 6-4 (loved that match...) it was a QF...

Mariaan de Swardt defeated Steffi.....<br />also Chris Evert...<br />Sabine Appelmans as well...<br />Serena Williams...<br />Martina Hingis.....i remember a walkover...

and im pretty sure Amanda Coetzer handed Graf a very hard loss. crushed her in one Australian Open QF, 6-0,6-1 i think

Martine Navratilova of course, <br />Sabatini and <br />Sanchez-Vicario....<br />Natasha Zvereva...<br />Ai Sugiyama...<br />Magui Serna...<br />Patty Schnyder ...

and im sure I left out a few others...
 

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Marshmallow, I thnik the 6-0 6-1 loss Amanda give to Steffi is in German Open I think, and that year, Amanda beat her in Aussie Open qf and French Open qf, pretty impressive
 

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Wow, Patty Schnyder too !!! <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Jen-Jen beat her in the Olympic final in 1992 for the gold medal and for nine years us Jennifer fans thought that would be her greatest victory - hoorah for 2001 <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
 

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yup wongqks, that 6-0,6-1 was at the german open....

it was a 6-2, 7-5 win for amanda at the australian open (closer match)

and then a straight sets win in the french open later that year too....
 

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Jelena Dokic has beaten her once , then Steffi got revenge the day after <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <br />tied at 1-1

Jelena was also labelled the next fraulein forehand btw from ms.graf who saw real talent inher
 

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when exhibitions count then Mary Joe beat Steffi too(in 92) and Gigi Fernandez(in 95?)and probarly a few more.
 

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Steffi leads Mary Pierce 4:2
 

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which exhibition did mary joe beat steffi?? she never beat her in a pro tournament <img src="graemlins/sad.gif" border="0" alt="[Sad]" />
 

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If I remember well then it was in the exhbition tournament wich was every year till a few years ago, In 92 Mary Joe beat Steffi in 3 sets(7:6 in the third I believe). I never saw it but I read that time that it was a great match.
 

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Hey, what about the retired players? These are some ladies who have defeated Steffi <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

-Navratilova & Evert (of course!)<br />-Sabatini (defeated Steffi 11 times, nobody else has defeated her so many times)<br />-Hana Mandlikova (defeated her once)<br />-Jana Novotna (4)<br />-Kimiko Date (1, I think in the Fed Cup)<br />-Zina Garrison (twice)<br />-Helena Sukova (twice)<br />-Natasha Zvereva (sigh*) wee all know when she defeated Steffi <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Now these are the head to heads of some players who never managed to beat Steffi. Some of these numbers are quite impressive:

Tauziat: 22-0<br />Mary Joe: 17-0<br />Maleeva Fr.: 17-0<br />K. Maleeva: 11-0<br />M. Maleeva: 8-0

Omg, poor maleeva sisters <img src="redface.gif" border="0">
 

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Mary " The french jewel " Pierce, in Rolland Garros, the year when Mary Pierce lost in final against Aranxa Sanchez - Vicario. The score was 6 / 2 6 / 2 if I remember right !!!!! <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> !!!!!

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Did Mariaan de Swardt really defeat Steffi ? I only remember her taking Steffi to 3 sets twice.

I think that many players showed their best tennis when defeating Steffi, for example:

- Mary defeating Steffi 6-2 6-2 FO 1992 (amazing stuff, winners everywhere !)<br />- Patty defeating Steffi 6-3 6-4 USO 1998 (very intelligent play, using her lefthand-shots)<br />- Amanda Coetzer (lost the first 5 matches in 2 sets but then trounced Steffi more than once; can anyone remember how she did that ?)

etc.
 

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mariaan de swart beat Steffi in Brighton 95 6:2 4:6 6:1

and I for sure remember how Amanda beat Steffi 3 times in 97 she just let Steffi made the errors and they came like never before(well except for Paris 91). I think it`s the only time Steffi laughed because she played so bad(Berlin) but of course afterall there was nothing funny about it since Steffi should never have played Berlin, Strassbourg(wich she won) or Paris because by doing that she made her injury worse and so she missed 9 months after, and of course in Australia she should not have played either because she had fever and got a heatstroke <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> stupid docters <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

I don`t know what happened in Canada 95 only that it was not unexpected after what happened the weeks before

Even Amanda said that she was lucky to often meet Steffi at the right time
 

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rambling thought...

Isn't it amazing that we are all surprised by how many people Steffi lost to, and yet she has that amazing record? I suppose most of her losses were at the two ends of her career.

I wonder if it will be possible for any current players to win as many grand slams as Steffi, and still have lost to such a myriad of players??

rambling thought...

Didn't Steffi beat Martina N. in the finals of Wimbledon, right before Martina N retired? That seems like just yesterday. I remember thinking how odd it seemed that Martina felt she had to retire after making it to the finals.
 
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