Lol 😂

Serena move, this is now Djokovic vs Margaret battle

 

Djokovic by a mile he's greatest athlete of modern era in any sport.

Margaret court is of course one of greatest female players in history however Graf is the Goat 🐐.

Graf made 10 consecutive grand Slam finals and won GCYGS all 4 slams plus Olympics!. Graf is Goddess is women's tennis nobody can touch her stats or domination simply the best.

Graf was so inspirational winning RG in her final season that's Goat shit right where.

 

Well if you stab all your competition then sure you can win all slams.

 

Courts Slam record doesn't mean nothing because all of her Australian Open titles didn't mean anything back then!

 

exactly. those were basically national aussie champs

 

Court because of her success in doubles

 

Best of five > best of three

 

lol novak. court is not even among the top 5 best wta players

 

Women's and men's tennis records used to be seperate. Why do all of a sudden records are mixed together ? Pseudo feminism ?

 

it was absurd in reference to Serena, even more absurd with Novak

 

I mean, it took Novak 50 years longer than Margaret to get to 24 so it's kinda obvious, isn't it?

 

Margaret. That epic rivalry with Jan Lehane and those fearsome 32-player draws in the '60s Australian closed championships are far more competitive than Novak rolling over some Next Gen mugs.

 

Margaret Court isn't even greater than Evert and Navratilova. Can we stop this bullshit one day ?

 

exactly. we all know this but still a few people coming with the same argument....boring

 

Court is not even top 10 in womens' tennis. No point naming her in any serious conversation. Nice that she won some Amateur tournaments in Australia, well done!

 

exactly

 

All the people voting for Court, I hope you guys religiously watch Margaret Court's highlights on YouTube in the dark with candles.

 

What are you on about?

Emma is very basic. If we compare her to DJ or any ATP elite player, she's a talentless pusher with no creativity, no weapon, no possibility to change tactics, not capability to play half the shots he can play, not even half the intent during rallies. You just can't be more attracted to her game. Unless you are a hater or are attracted to her in other way. When you talk that someone from big3 is a boring player and then introduce youself as an Emma fan, that defies any logic. That's not even an opinion here, just facts.

 

Djoker will overtake after AO in January, making this discussion moot.

 

most probably, feel free to bump the thread then and then close it

 

Pancho Gonzales beats all their sorry asses, then Novak

 

Margaret Court won 64 grand slam titles - Novak has only won 24.

 

girl those 64 slam titles dont count as more than 3 or 4 real slams. get real

im far from being a djokovic fan but comparing their achievements is just riddiculous

 

They both have 24 single slams so they should be equal in that regard, in terms of overall achievements they should be rather balanced too, Court has the CYGS which Djokovic couldn´t get back in ´21 and Court also has tons of doubles achievements while Djokovic has lots of masters and finals.

It´s funny though how US media remembers Court when they just want to, they crowned Serena as slam record holder and put Court with 11 slams in open era, now suddenly she has 24 and is tied with Djokovic.

 

Best of five > best of three

In best of three, he would lose to Djere and not win the US Open. Probably there are more matches when he won from 0-2 or 1-2 down, so his slam count would be also lower. So in a way best of five can save you more because it gives you more time for a comeback.

 

In best of three, he would "concentrate his mind" (Samuel Johnson) from the get-go and not necessarily lose the first set, or the second. See also the Cincinnati final.

 

In best of three, he would lose to Djere and not win the US Open. Probably there are more matches when he won from 0-2 or 1-2 down, so his slam count would be also lower. So in a way best of five can save you more because it gives you more time for a comeback.

i) Can't say that definitively. Novak knew he had time to work his way back into the match in the best of five set format. That's like looking at a 400m run results and the leader was different at the 200m mark and saying if it was just a 200m race, that person would've won instead.
ii) Novak has some slam loses where he was up 2-0 or 2-1 in sets. If you want to change it to best of three format, you could say he was going to win those slams too. Similarly while Court/Serena/Graf/whoever may have won some slams they lost if was best of five, they also would've lost some they won.
iii) In general the logic that winning best of five set slams is somehow easier of best of three sets is laughable, especially at the age of 36.

 

It might not be easier but it certainly is a safety cushion protecting against random upsets.

 

The one with the calendar Grand Slam

MAR-GOAT

 

It's obviously Djokovic, much as I dislike him.

Having said that, I don't know why a lot of the media and fans now appear to be combining male and female records. It doesn't make sense to me, as they are two different competitions.

 

Maybe Margaret Court fans can answer this but was her tennis as completely uninteresting as Djokovic's tennis?

The excitement apparently by the media is all about breaking records. But watching him play over and over again for coming up to two decades is slightly painful.

And I've seen him play on a number of occasions. First in 2007 at the French Open in the quarterfinal (can you believe that? That is 16 years ago). Then I saw him a couple of times at the 02 Arena at the ATP Championships. That was very boring and I can't even remember his opponents. Then last year in Paris Bercy in the final against Rune, that was actually a good final, mainly because Rune was raw and exuberant and took the game to Djokovic.

However, if you are waiting for Djokovic to provide entertaining tennis? Forget it. If you are waiting to watch him break record after record? Then let's go!

 

However, if you are waiting for Djokovic to provide entertaining tennis? Forget it. If you are waiting to watch him break record after record? Then let's go!

Yes, one of the many reasons why it's a shame that he's tennis GOAT. But it is what it is.

 

Court.

Her all slams are more legit than Lenglen, who is considered here as a true legend.

 

Just because you have the most slams doesn’t necessarily mean you the “greatest”, there are other factors as well…

 

Neither

 

Both Court and Serena are greater, much much greater than Djokovic, they both won at least 20 more Grand Slam titles than Djokovic. Heck, even my queen Navratilova won more than Djoko, on top of 18 single titles, she also won 31 women's Grand Slam double titles and 10 mixed doubles

Court / Serena /Navratilova ( Queens ) > Djokovic ( peasant ) 🤭

Why are we comparing men and women anyway