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Is it 'je na sais quoi' or simply a by-product of long term middling results and ranking?

I think Madison Brengle fits the category pretty well, I like her because of her hilarious personality, has a lovely backhand imho and I am happy for her when she wins matches. You just know though she won't ever contend for the big titles, you don't expect her in later stages of tournaments above ITF level and every win at a WTA level is a bonus.
 
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I don’t favour the word scrub.

The phrase journey women for me has changed over the years with the dramatic increase in prize money - I think you have to be ranked quite low now to be labelled a journey woman. Tomova would be a good example.

I remember back in the 90’s the likes of Frazier & Dragomir would be called journey women, especially in the daily Mail. They were ranked about 15 in the world at the time.

That’s how much perspectives have changed.
 

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cornut? she's very entertaining

and kanepi is a massive fave on this forum
 

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I don’t favour the word scrub.

The phrase journey women for me has changed over the years with the dramatic increase in prize money - I think you have to be ranked quite low now to be labelled a journey woman. Tomova would be a good example.

I remember back in the 90’s the likes of Frazier & Dragomir would be called journey women, especially in the daily Mail. They were ranked about 15 in the world at the time.

That’s how much perspectives have changed.
But those days a number 1 or 2 losing before the final so even semi was considered a total fail.
 

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I don’t favour the word scrub.

The phrase journey women for me has changed over the years with the dramatic increase in prize money - I think you have to be ranked quite low now to be labelled a journey woman. Tomova would be a good example.

I remember back in the 90’s the likes of Frazier & Dragomir would be called journey women, especially in the daily Mail. They were ranked about 15 in the world at the time.

That’s how much perspectives have changed.
The word scrub definitely has derisive connotations so I agree. Journeywoman much less.
 

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Madison Brengle is a textbook journeywoman (not my favorite though :p ).

A bunch of ITF titles in local environement, usually ranked high enough to qualify for GS MD and never having any noteworthy deep runs at a big event (she has one R4 at GS level). It doesn't get any more journeywoman-ish than Brengle.
 
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Oh, and since Brengle is a textbook journeywoman, it's not quite the bottom level. Julia Cohen was a scrub. The most obvious choice for me.
 
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I googled ‘better word for scrub’ - this is what the search returned:

  • scour
  • dump
  • junk
  • undergrowth

Maybe undergrowth?
Definitely not junk. That's a drugs addict here.(not sure if it's also used in other languages)
 
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