so the rumours around USO were true - about him being suspended.

obviously the investigation needs to be carried out, but you would have to seriously question what is going though Elena’s head being desperate to bring him back when she has a new super-coach…. would really make you concerned it is some sort of grooming or “cult-like” as Pam said.

Goran must be wondering wtf he’s signed up for.

 

Now that is actually very interesting. Maybe there was some actual evidence of things.

 

If they had evidence in August and basically silently suspended him which caused the split with Rybakina what are they still investigating in January? Vukov was very much a one-player coach at WTA level so it's not like they would be gathering information from anyone not named Rybakina?

 

 

Elena is literally my favorite female tennis player ever, BUT WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE

 

Oh but he'll definitely be in this thread though lol. Get ready for some reading !

 

Oracle Pammy knows all.

 

What in the actual fuck is going on? The most important thins is Elena's well-being.

 

Oh gosh I hope Elena is ok.

 

Why did i ease my nerves on this issue yesterday because of you!!! The story is so clear for me, so clear..

 

Elena may need to go see a therapist cause it looks like girlie ain't right.

 

Rybakina is thinking of circumventing the suspension by buying tickets for him from the stands

 

Or boycotting events. Imagine boycotting a slam for this scrub!

 

Flee Goran! Flee! Coach a player that doesn't come with so much baggage.

 

Or maybe he could be a good influence to help make things right. In which case, time might be needed. If the allegations are true, or similar, it will take time for her to come to realisations. Not just a few weeks or months.

 

I don't see how this can work unless Vukov hit or was abusive to another player or a member of another player's entourage. Otherwise it is all based on hearsay evidence. Karen Barbat's father hit Elise Tamaela, didn't he?

 

Elena didn't report him someone else (or more than 1 person) did

 

How could wta have banned vukov if elena hadn't filed a request!!!

 

How could have wta banned vukov if elena hadn't filed a request!!!

Someone else reported him another player or coach we don't know but could be more than 1 as well and we don't know what proof there is but it must be significant to warrant this

 

Shriver hasn't been such an important character in WTA since 1988.

 

This confirms my suspicion that they’re dating. Women in abusive relationships tend to stand by their men because they’re co-dependent and afraid of repercussions.

 

I remember finding it weird that Vukov tattooed the name of Elena after she won Wimbledon. Elena even mentioned it in one of her interviews. I just hope Elena gets the help she needs.

 

Elena didn't report him someone else (or more than 1 person) did

Perhaps he was a side toward another player. Does anyone remember his super agressive hateful comments towards Iga just weeks before he was sacked? Imagine what he’s like behind the scenes. If he’s lashed out to other players and their teams I’m sure this suspension is much more than hearsay

BUT
1. Elena does not support him being banned so I don't see how the WTA can ban him on her account.
2. No one has mentioned him being abusive to another player, surely Prosecutor Pam would have mentioned that, if it were part of the case against him.

 

If he was abusive to another player or coach and they reported it to WTA we would not know unless they chose to revoke anonymity

 

Me trying to process whatever the hell is going on :

Seriously though I don't like this at all... If she freaking boycott tournaments for this dude... I'd rather not think about it. This whole thing clearly hints at bad omens from everywhere but yet remains so vague.

 

Ryba hired him as her coach when she was 19...

 

It is very clear. elena filed a request for a ban, then followed emotional manipulations and victim playing, "i made you, you ruined my career instead". Reunion!

 

why not? Why wouldn’t abuse go Elena (of any form) reported by another player or coacj be investigated? There may well be evidence (video, text messages etc.), and if reports were backed up by others on tour, I think it should count as more than “hearsay”.

Someone else reported him another player or coach we don't know but could be more than 1 as well and we don't know what proof there is but it must be significant to warrant this

Nonsense. The police never prosecute someone accused of domestic violence unless the alleged victim presses charges. The WTA/ITF does not have a leg to stand on, if it does this without the alleged victim's consent. Supposed witnesses will not be enough.

 

this isn’t a criminal proceeding (and not all jurisdictions are the same anyways). If I was making misogynistic comments to someone in work and someone overheard and reported me, it wouldn’t matter that it wasn’t the victim who came forward. If Vukov is found to have breaches a case of conduct or rules, it won’t really matter who lodged an accusation.

 

Finally. Let’s let these FACTS come out before people can righteously claim to have “always known/been right”. I’ll take facts or feelings any day.

 

Wow Vukov gonna sue WTA for million$$... or their entire 10 bucks turnover anyway.

 

If you look at the bigger lawsuit picture... USTA was sued by a player for allowing coach abuse, a jury awarded $9 million this year to the player. The US figure skating is also in the background (note for those with potential reading comprehension issues: I am referring to the lawsuits not type of abuse).

WTA hired a lawyer as Director of Safeguarding in 2022 or 2023. USTA is reviewing or has reviewed policies. What happened (or, more precisely, didn't happen) in the 2000s and the 2010s is history. This is the new reality, and WTA currently has plenty of incentives to take action as well as the organization to do so.

 

Stay away from Mirra PLS!

 

OK so I once witnessed that vile old harridan Samantha Stevenson berate her daughter Sexy Lexy at Eastbourne and reduce her to a crying, squirming mess. I know it's a bit late now, but should I send this story through to the WTA and get her banned in retrospect?

 

I feel bad for Ivanisevic, the NY Times piece says his relationship with Rybakina has become strained after she announced Vukov back, as he felt blindsided. Elena did him really dirty, I hope Goran leaves this mess as soon as possible.

 

I feel bad for Ivanisevic, the NY Times piece says his relationship has become strained after she announced Vukov back.

Can you link that piece here?

 

The fact that Elena wasn’t the one reporting him makes him more incriminating imo. The WTA wouldn’t have taken such drastic measure unless they have significant proof/reasons to ban him.

 

The pick mes in this thread and in the other thread had the nerve to claim everyone was overreacting and berated Pam Shriver despite her having inside information. I'm convinced a lot of posters here just love to see women abused and manipulated because the responses are still ridiculous. If the WTA had to intervene and do an investigation this coach is a problem.