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I wonder how many of people talking outrage about this can even locate Brunei on the map :lol: It's one of the last absolute monarchies in the world so obviously they don't give a fuck what some Western liberals think about them :haha:
This is certainly true.
 

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the hypocrite west as usual




why george doesnt talk about all those countrires?
 

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Brunei has been moving toward full implementation of Sharia law since 2014. They are basing the punishments on the Koran and the hadiths.

The hadith that prescribes death for homosexual acts is "Ikrima reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas that God’s messenger [Muhammad] said: ‘If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’" (Recorded in Mishkat al-Masabih, trans. James Robson, vol. 2, p. 763, Prescribed Punishments).

It's interesting to hear this being reported as "extreme interpretation" of Islam. Since most would agree that Islam is built on the twin foundations of the Koran and the hadiths, they are simply following what Muhammed said to do.

The same applies to the other portions of this law.
they are just obeying the sharia law, thats their faith as muslims.

hypocrite george
 

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they are just obeying the sharia law, thats their faith as muslims.

hypocrite george
I dont see how this can be used as an argument for accepting this law. Hypothetically, if there were a religion that says that having sex with a jew is a crime and death penalty should be applied to it, would you just say "oh well, that's their faith"
 

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Israel is killing Palestinian gays with impunity.

Hypocrite George.
 

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I dont see how this can be used as an argument for accepting this law. Hypothetically, if there were a religion that says that having sex with a jew is a crime and death penalty should be applied to it, would you just say "oh well, that's their faith"
If ur under the impression im ok with it you are mistaken

I dont get the buzz over this like its news that gays suffer under sharia law, whats the news in it? Those countries are well know including Russia i dont see George and his dake Hollywood friends going againat saudi and Qatar and Russia and the rest of them that will put u in jail for kissing ur bf/gf

There's at least 5 countries in Africa who are the same, i didn't see a buzz against it
 

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If ur under the impression im ok with it you are mistaken

I dont get the buzz over this like its news that gays suffer under sharia law, whats the news in it? Those countries are well know including Russia i dont see George and his dake Hollywood friends going againat saudi and Qatar and Russia and the rest of them that will put u in jail for kissing ur bf/gf

There's at least 5 countries in Africa who are the same, i didn't see a buzz against it
I've read many of your comments in this forum and I'm pretty sure you are NOT ok with death penalty for gays or any kind of extremism

This kind of laws are not new, especially in a muslim country. But, why should we just ignore this because of the argument that other countries have something similar? I also don't understand why the whole discussion has been what Hollywood actors are saying or boycotting. Like the Twitter thread in the first page explains, those boycotts won't do anything against the government of Brunei. They are pretty much meaningless.
 

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I've read many of your comments in this forum and I'm pretty sure you are NOT ok with death penalty for gays or any kind of extremism

This kind of laws are not new, especially in a muslim country. But, why should we just ignore this because of the argument that other countries have something similar? I also don't understand why the whole discussion has been what Hollywood actors are saying or boycotting. Like the Twitter thread in the first page explains, those boycotts won't do anything against the government of Brunei. They are pretty much meaningless.
I never said we should ignore them, I expressed my astonishment at the wonder, as if it was the only country in the world that behaves like this, and Clooney's call to boycott sounds ridiculous to me. He tries to get attention or is ignorant and unaware that there are other countries that behave like this?

the discussion in the world got buzz bc of george thats all
 

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I wonder why people want to make a big deal about their law? If you don't like or agree with it, just don't go to their country and have sex (if you're gay that is!):lol:
Also, Brunei is an Islamic country, so their population majority is Muslim people, so I am very sure they are well aware of what their religion is, including what they can or cannot do or under their shariah law. :shrug:
 

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I wonder why people want to make a big deal about their law? If you don't like or agree with it, just don't go to their country and have sex (if you're gay that is!):lol:
Also, Brunei is an Islamic country, so their population majority is Muslim people, so I am very sure they are well aware of what their religion is, including what they can or cannot do or under their shariah law. :shrug:
interesting.

shame its one sided
 
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I wonder why people want to make a big deal about their law? If you don't like or agree with it, just don't go to their country and have sex (if you're gay that is!):lol:
Also, Brunei is an Islamic country, so their population majority is Muslim people, so I am very sure they are well aware of what their religion is, including what they can or cannot do or under their shariah law. :shrug:
But it's not just if you're gay.

Having sex and being unmarried is adultery and is subject to the death penalty by stoning.

If you're gay they throw you off of a high building like ISIS does/did.
 

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I wonder why people want to make a big deal about their law? If you don't like or agree with it, just don't go to their country and have sex (if you're gay that is!):lol:
Also, Brunei is an Islamic country, so their population majority is Muslim people, so I am very sure they are well aware of what their religion is, including what they can or cannot do or under their shariah law. :shrug:
You completely missed the point.

We're not talking about the law, we're talking about human rights.

So, is it OK to killing people for who they are? Don't give me the "it's their law" bullshit.
 

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I wonder why people want to make a big deal about their law? If you don't like or agree with it, just don't go to their country and have sex (if you're gay that is!):lol:
Also, Brunei is an Islamic country, so their population majority is Muslim people, so I am very sure they are well aware of what their religion is, including what they can or cannot do or under their shariah law. :shrug:
Didn’t you forget something when you say that people should just stay away and it is no big deal?

I am referring to the people of Brunei.
 

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You completely missed the point.

We're not talking about the law, we're talking about human rights.

So, is it OK to killing people for who they are? Don't give me the "it's their law" bullshit.
interesting.

shame its one sided
But it's not just if you're gay.

Having sex and being unmarried is adultery and is subject to the death penalty by stoning.

If you're gay they throw you off of a high building like ISIS does/did.
Didn’t you forget something when you say that people should just stay away and it is no big deal?

I am referring to the people of Brunei.
I know that you're referring to human rights as a whole and I am sure that many other people say that Islamic is "close-minded" or "cruel" but that is what it is in their religion which doesn't condone such acts, even it does not sound right to other people (normally people with different religious understanding), sometimes we just have to respect their beliefs. And like other poster mentioned, this is what you get when living in the Islamic monarchy ruled country. They will simply refer to their religion to make the necessary laws. Due to that, for sure some of their laws may affect or limit some human right. And like I mentioned, the Muslim community know that those acts are not accepted under their shariah law and they just have to obey it. I don't think any Bruneian people (the Muslim people especially) is going to challenge that, even that means they can't be themselves.:shrug: I think my point inclines more towards their religion than human rights, which I believe all of you think this is absurd.:shrug: Like it or hate it, we have to just accept it. Or else the only option is that we move out and migrate to other places.:shrug: The country will not change their rules/laws based on the minority, and what so what the foreigner thinks.
 

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I know that you're referring to human rights as a whole and I am sure that many other people say that Islamic is "close-minded" or "cruel" but that is what it is in their religion which doesn't condone such acts, even it does not sound right to other people (normally people with different religious understanding), sometimes we just have to respect their beliefs. And like other poster mentioned, this is what you get when living in the Islamic monarchy ruled country. They will simply refer to their religion to make the necessary laws. Due to that, for sure some of their laws may affect or limit some human right. And like I mentioned, the Muslim community know that those acts are not accepted under their shariah law and they just have to obey it. I don't think any Bruneian people (the Muslim people especially) is going to challenge that, even that means they can't be themselves.:shrug: I think my point inclines more towards their religion than human rights, which I believe all of you think this is absurd.:shrug: Like it or hate it, we have to just accept it. Or else the only option is that we move out and migrate to other places.:shrug: The country will not change their rules/laws based on the minority, and what so what the foreigner thinks.
So people in western europe wouldn't and shouldn't be outraged if they were to lose all basic human rights to canon law from the vatican? If India made the Hindu caste system legal again? If the several Islamic countries already banning Shariah law were to reinstate it? People should just accept this because it's their religion?
 

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So people in western europe wouldn't and shouldn't be outraged if they were to lose all basic human rights to canon law from the vatican? If India made the Hindu caste system legal again? If the several Islamic countries already banning Shariah law were to reinstate it? People should just accept this because it's their religion?
Yes, the poster says that we just have to accept their beliefs. That is wrong for a start. Although it is not clear if the meaning is that we should accept it in the sense of being OK, or accept in the sense of being able to do nothing about it.

But the poster does not seem to be aware that the country is an absolute monarchy, so it is not a matter of "their beliefs."
 

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I never said we should ignore them, I expressed my astonishment at the wonder, as if it was the only country in the world that behaves like this, and Clooney's call to boycott sounds ridiculous to me. He tries to get attention or is ignorant and unaware that there are other countries that behave like this?

the discussion in the world got buzz bc of george thats all
I am not sure where you are going with this, but I get the impression you are just using it to keep hammering home that all Islamic countries are uncivilized, so no big deal.

Clooney is speaking out on this latest outrage because it is happening now.

In all your posts here I never heard any concern for the possible victims of the new law, but just a repetition, over and over again, that nobody should be surprised when Muslims act uncivilized.
 
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