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How to become a Tennis Tipping Manager?

Every Tennis Tipping player is allowed to do managing.
New managers should start with challenger tournaments but there is no rule on it.
The thread for the tournament should be opened at least one week before the first entry deadlines are set.
If you want to manage a tournament, make sure that you have enough time to do the updates and differences and make sure that you follow the Guidelines for Managers.
All you have to do is to ask for (a) tournament(s) in this thread, doesn´t matter if another user wants the same tournament, you still can ask for it and after some time (usually 1 week) I will make a decision and confirm the managers by adding the names on the front page.


Guidelines for managers for all tournaments:

1) Managers have to post at least one updated Entry List before the 1st deadline is over (at latest on Saturday, 6pm CET/CEST)
2) Managers should update the first page regularly (Entry Lists, Draws/Results, Daily OOP, differences etc.)
3) Managers should post the TT Schedule of Play on first page as well (incl. Deadlines)
4) Managers should post differences as close to deadline as possible
5) Managers should be aware of the Basic Rules of TT (incl TB rules, rules for LLs/ALTs)
6) Managers should check for the deadline before they post the OOP, post the OOP in time and post first and last names of the players to make sure that everyone knows who will actually play (can get complicated with Chinese names for example)
7) Managers should post a LL/ALT List
8) Managers, who use sfar´s EL maker, should post the list of players (which they insert into the EL maker) in the tournament thread as well so that players can make regular updates of the EL themselves, if they want to
9) Managers who are unsure about which matches should be TB and which not, checking bet sites, activity of players, H2H of players, that all can make your decision easier, just remember that TB matches should be the most difficult to predict in general
10) Managers should inform Frederik in the Protected Ranking Thread if a player commits to a tournament using his PR for singles and/or doubles!

11) Managers should inform the board if a player/team wants to enter a tournament with a Wild Card

Those are the basics, doing that is totally enough but for bigger tournaments players might expect a bit more, doing some extra stuff, just like:

- posting H2H
- graphics
- graphics of group standings for RR tournaments
- Schedule of Play for TT players
- Interviews/Previews/Reports etc.



There is a very helpful guide especially for new managers here:
An Idiot's Guide to Tennis Tipping Hosting - TennisForum.com

Here is the sheet for WTA-TT which provides results and differences:
TT Management Spreadsheet with ISRs + TBs | v 1.03 (Doubles 128 added) - TennisForum.com

Entry List and Draw Maker (helps managers to generate Entry Lists and Draws easily):
sfar's Entry List & Draw Maker: tennistipping.zz.mu - TennisForum.com

If you have any questions during your managing, please use this thread to ask:
http://www.tennisforum.com/643-tennis-tipping/990625-ask-board-thread-vol-2-list-current-tt-board-members-opening-post.html


Thanks everyone and good luck at managing :)
 

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Re: Tennis tipping managers thread 2016 - get ready and check out the rules for manag

2016 SR/TB Rules

The TT OOP should have in its contents:

- The round for which you are tipping
- 3 matches should be Tie Break matches, others should all be SR matches
- TB1 should always be part of the OOP from Day 2 and at least one TB should be part of Day 1 (if there is a two days round), rest is up to the manager
-The person/people TT players are suppossed to send their picks to and the deadline to send picks

The TB matches should be considered to be the most difficult to predict in the schedule

Procedures to determine a winner:

1) The player who has more correct picks is the winner

In the case of a tie in the number of correct picks the winner should be determined by this order:

2) Set Ratios

Player A wins if he has more correct set ratios than player B.
In case there is a tie in the number of correct SRs, you should use the ISR rule method.

3) The ISR rule (Incorrect Picks) => won´t get awarded in matches in which one player retired

SINGLES:

All INCORRECT picks will be compared, and the player with the most incorrect 2-1 picks (as opposed to incorrect 2-0 picks) will win.
That means, if both players picked the incorrect winner, but one player gives a set to the correct winner, he/she will get a point.
Incorrect 2-1 picks will also get rewarded, if one player picked the incorrect winner 2-1 and the other player forgot to pick for that match "no pick"!

Example: Sharapova def. Clijsters 64 63

Player A picked Clijsters 2-0, Player B picked Clijsters 2-1 => Player B gets a ISR point as he/she gave a set to Sharapova (the correct winner).​

If your opponent picked the correct winner and you picked the incorrect winner to win 2-1, then you won't get a point.

Example: Sharapova def. Clijsters 64 63

Player A picked Sharapova 2-0, Player B picked Clijsters 2-1 => Player B doesn't get a ISR point as Player A picked the correct winner.​

DOUBLES:

Where 2 teams have the same score and same SRs, we look at incorrect 2-1 picks.
Whoever has the most incorrect 2-1 picks win. However, unlike in singles, just because 1 player in a team has the correct winner of that match, it DOES NOT render an incorrect 2-1 pick irrelevant. The correct picks cancel each other out


Example 1: Paszek def. Jankovic 6-3 6-4

Team A: Paszek 6-3 6-4 Jankovic 3-6 6-3 6-4
Team B: Paszek 6-3 6-4 Jankovic 6-3 6-4​
In this example, the 2 Paszek picks cancel each other out, so we look at the incorrect picks and team A gains an incorrect SR point as we compare the Jankovic picks. Team A would get this point even if their first player had picked Paszek in 3, as both teams will have already been rewarded for correct SRs.

Example 2: Paszek def. Jankovic 6-3 6-4

Team A: Jankovic 6-3 3-6 6-4 Jankovic 3-6 6-3 6-4
Team B: Paszek 6-3 6-4 Jankovic 6-3 6-4​
If 1 member of the opposing team gets the correct winner and nobody in the other team does, then only 1 2-1 pick is counted, as again, you compare the picks
In this example, team A gains an incorrect SR point. If the second player in team B had Jankovic in 3, then both teams would have 1 incorrect SR point

Example 3: Paszek def. Jankovic 6-3 6-4

Team A: Jankovic 6-4 3-6 6-3 Jankovic 6-3 6-4
Team B: Paszek 6-3 6-4 Jankovic 3-6 6-3 6-4

In the past the rule said that the better picks should be paired off against each other but that is not the case anymore.
New Rule only says that equally picks cancel each other out.

New Rule:
Jankovic 2-0 vs. Paszek 2-0
Jankovic 2-1 vs. Jankovic 2-1 => they cancel each other out


Old Rule:
Jankovic 2-1 vs. Paszek 2-0
Jankovic 2-0 vs. Jankovic 2-1​

If this fails to provide a winner, then the Tie Breaks method is used.

4) Tie Breaks

In case Player A chose the correct winner for the TB1 match while Player B didn´t => Player A wins

In case Player A and Player B chose the correct winner for the TB1 match and only one has the correct Set Ratio for that match, then the player with the correct Set Ratio wins

In case Player A and Player B chose the correct winner for the TB1 match and both have the correct/incorrect Set Ratio for that match, winner should be determined by this order:

Player has 3 set scores in the correct order > Player has 3 set scores in the wrong order >Player has 2 set scores in the correct order > Player has 2 set scores in the wrong order > Player has 1 set score in the right order > Player has 1 set score in the wrong order

If you pick the same score for both sets (e.g. 64 64) and the real score is 64 63 then you get only 1 set score in the right order, only in case that the match score is really 64 64 then you get 2 sets in the right order. The same is for 3-setters. If you pick 64 46 64 and the match score is 64 26 63 then you only get 1 set in the right order.

If you can't find a winner after all this, use the who's closer method:

Example: Sharapova wins a match 6-3 6-3

Player A chose her: 6-0 6-0
Player B chose her: 7-6 7-6

Total number of games in Sharapova match: 6+3+6+3=18
Total number of games in Player A pick: 6+0+6+0=12
Total number of games in Player B pick: 7+6+7+6=26

Player A: |18-12|=6
Player B: |18-26|=8

Player A wins as he is closer to the real score.

If you can´t find a winner after this, take a look at the order of sets:

Example: Sharapova wins a match 36 64 63 (total numbers of games in this match: 28)

Player A chose her: 62 67 63 (total numbers of games picked: 30)
Player B chose her: 67 62 63 (total numbers of games picked: 30)

Player B wins as he picked order of sets correct.

Player C chose her: 62 06 61 (total numbers of games picked: 21)
Player D chose her: 46 76 75 (total numbers of games picked: 35)

Player D wins as he picked order of sets correct.

In case both players chose the loser for the TB1 match:

Player A and Player B chose the loser of the TB1 match but Player A gives a set to the winner and Player B doesn't --> Player A wins

Player A and Player B chose the loser of the TB1 match and none or both players gave a set to the winner --->
Go to TB2 (or TB3 if needed) and do the same steps which you did for TB1 before (starting again from Point 4: Tie Breaks)

None of the TBs methods above could produce a winner -->
Use the new TB method and check for the correct set scores of the players in matches where both picked the wrong winner
(starting again with TB1 obviously, then TB2 and TB3 if needed)

Player has 2 set scores in the correct order > Player has 2 set scores in the wrong order > Player has 1 set score in the right order > Player has 1 set score in the wrong order

Note: a correct setscore given to the "wrong" player doesn´t count


Example A:

Result: Halep def. Williams 64 63

Player A: Williams 64 63
Player B: Williams 76 75

Player A and B don´t have any correct setscores

Example B:

Result: Halep def. Williams 75 62

Player A: Williams 75 26 62
Player B: Williams 64 36 63

Player A has one correct setscore​

If none of the TBs methods could produce a winner, use the old TB method where the player who gave the winner the most games will win. This rule only becomes effective when both players picked the wrong winner of a match.

5) Tournament Countback

In Case everything is tied after the use of all TBs, use Tournament Countback as a manner of untying things:

Where two players have the same score, and cannot be separated by SRs, incorrect 2-1 picks or TBs, countback is used. Countback is based on the WHOLE tournament, and not just the previous round.
If that doesn't separate people, then we do SR countback for the whole tournament, then incorrect 2-1 ISRs for the whole tournament and then if people still aren't separated, we look to the previous round for the opponents' respective scores, then SRs, then incorrect 2-1's (new SR rule) and then, if need be, TBs.

If, after the use of CB everything is still tied:

Where 2 players are tied on score, SRs, incorrect 2-1 SRs, PTS and on countback, matches will be decided by predicting the results of another tournament. the players will then send for R2 of their current tournament AND for the next day's OOP of whichever other tournament is selected. Where possible, the tiebreaker tournament selected should be within a similar timezone to the initial tournament and at a similar level, although as long as things are fair for both participants, this is left largely to the discretion of the manager

Example:

Chris 84 and Meelis are tied in every aspect in their 1st round match in Brisbane. both players then send for 2nd round in Brisbane, but to seperate them, and to decide who goes through, they must send picks for the Shenzhen tournament as well. The manager will make up/copy the OOP for the following day's play in Shenzhen and Chris 84 and Meelis will send for that. assume that Meelis wins on the Shenzhen OOP 5-4.
This means that Meelis advances to 2nd round in Brisbane and Chris 84's 2nd round Brisbane picks are discarded.​
 

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Re: Tennis tipping managers thread 2016 - get ready and check out the rules for manag

Thanks to Igorche for this examples, which I just copied in here again :yeah:

=> Original post can be found here: http://www.tennisforum.com/51987802-post122.html

MANAGERS MAY WE HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE

Managers very often misinterpret rule about placement of LLs. They often do it randomly but it is wrong, we have written rule about it, and you can read it HERE

Here are a few examples of how to use rule.

EXAMPLE 1: If there is enough LLs/ALTs (note: I'll work with LLs but the same is with ALTs)

Original draw (Red are non senders)
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)
LL LIST
1. (LL1).Andrew. (USA)
2. (LL2)Bummel (GER)
3. (LL3)Jose. (POR)

Arrange players (whose opponents didn't sent) in ranking order and then:
LL1 replaces opponent of the lowest ranked player in the draw.
LL3 replaces opponent of the highest ranked player in the draw.

1. (6) shuai.P (26th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL3)Jose. (POR)
2. M.P (45th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL2)Bummel (GER)
3. Crux Squall (97th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL1).Andrew. (USA)

New draw
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
(LL2)Bummel (GER) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. (LL3)Jose.
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(LL1).Andrew. (USA) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)


EXAMPLE 2: If there is not enough LLs/ALTs.

Original draw (Red are non senders)
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)
LL LIST
1. (LL1).Andrew. (USA)
2. (LL2)Bummel (GER)

Arrange players (whose opponents didn't sent) in ranking order.
If more spots than ALTs/LLs are available highest ranked players, whose opponent didn't send, will get a walkover.
LL1 replaces opponent of the lowest ranked player in the draw (of those who didn't get BYE).
LL2 replaces opponent of the highest ranked player in the draw (of those who didn't get BYE).

1. (6) shuai.P (26th on TT singles rank) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
2. M.P (45th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL2)Bummel (GER)
3. Crux Squall (97th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL1).Andrew. (USA)

New draw
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
(LL2)Bummel (GER) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(LL1).Andrew. (USA) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)


EXAMPLE 3: Where there is a 1st round match in which BOTH players don't send picks.

Original draw (Red are non senders)
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)
LL LIST
1. (LL1).Andrew. (USA)
2. (LL2)Bummel (GER)
3. (LL3)Jose. (POR)
4. (LL4)MichaelN (POL)
5. (LL5)Deumex (GER)


Matches where neither send should be replaced first (with LL1 and LL2)

DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL) ------> (LL1).Andrew. (USA) vs. (LL2)Bummel (GER)

And then rest of the LL are placed against the players who did send (but opponents did not).
LL3 replaces opponent of the lowest ranked player in the draw.
LL5 replaces opponent of the highest ranked player in the draw.

1. (6) shuai.P (26th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL5)Deumex (GER)
2. M.P (45th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL4)MichaelN (POL)
3. Crux Squall (97th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL3)Jose. (POR)

New draw
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
(LL4)MichaelN (POL) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. (LL5)Deumex (GER)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(LL3)Jose. (POR) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
(LL1).Andrew. (USA) vs. (LL2)Bummel (GER)


EXAMPLE 4: Where there is a 1st round match in which BOTH players don't send picks, but there is not enough LLs/ALTs.

Original draw (Red are non senders)
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)
LL LIST
1. (LL1).Andrew. (USA)
2. (LL2)Bummel (GER)
3. (LL3)Jose. (POR)
4. (LL4)MichaelN (POL)


Matches where neither send should be replaced first (with LL1 and LL2)

DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL) ------> (LL1).Andrew. (USA) vs. (LL2)Bummel (GER)

And then rest of the LL are placed against the players who did send (but opponents did not).
If more spots than ALTs/LLs are available highest ranked players, whose opponent didn't send, will get a walkover.
LL3 replaces opponent of the lowest ranked player in the draw (of those who didn't get BYE).
LL4 replaces opponent of the highest ranked player in the draw (of those who didn't get BYE).

1. (6) shuai.P (26th on TT singles rank) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
2. M.P (45th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL4)MichaelN (POL)
3. Crux Squall (97th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL3)Jose. (POR)

New draw
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
(LL4)MichaelN (POL) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(LL3)Jose. (POR) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
(LL1).Andrew. (USA) vs. (LL2)Bummel (GER)


EXAMPLE 5: Where there is a 1st round match in which BOTH players don't send picks, but there is only 1 LL/ALT available.

Original draw (Red are non senders)
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)
LL LIST
1. (LL).Andrew. (USA)

Match where neither send should be replaced.
Where only 1 LL/ALT is available, that LL replaces one of the players, the No.1 seed's opponent replaces the other player, and the No.1 seed receives walkover.
In other matches where only one sent, those who have sent will receive walkovers.

DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL) ------> (LL).Andrew. (USA) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
(1) buji (IND) vs. WO

1. (6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
2. M.P (HKG) vs. Fantasy Hero (ITA) walkover
3. Crux Squall (RUS) vs. (7) hessie (AUS) walkover

New draw
(1) buji (IND) vs. WO
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG) walkover
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS) walkover
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
(LL).Andrew. (USA) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)


EXAMPLE 6: Where there is a 1st round match in which BOTH players don't send picks, but there is no LL/ALT available.

Original draw (Red are non senders)
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)

Match where neither send should be replaced.
where no LL/ALT is available, the opponents of both the No.1 and No.2 seeds move to that part of the draw and both No.1 and No.2 seeds receive walkovers.
If the No.1 or No.2 seeds didn´t send picks then the opponents of No.3, No.4 or No.5 seeds etc. will move to that part of the draw and No.3/No.4/No.5 seeds will receive a walkover.
In other matches where only one sent, those who have sent will receive walkovers.

DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL) ------> Nightcrawl3r (ROU) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
(1) buji (IND) vs. WO
(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. WO

1. (6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
2. M.P (HKG) vs. Fantasy Hero (ITA) walkover
3. Crux Squall (RUS) vs. (7) hessie (AUS) walkover

New draw
(1) buji (IND) vs. WO
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. WO
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG) walkover
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS) walkover
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
Nightcrawl3r (ROU) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)


EXAMPLE 7: Same as example 5, only that No.1 seed (or his opponent) didn´t send picks.

Original draw (Red are non senders)
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)
LL LIST
1. (LL).Andrew. (USA)

Match where neither send should be replaced.
Where only 1 LL/ALT is available, that LL replaces one of the players, the No.1 seed's opponent replaces the other player, and the No.1 seed receives walkover.
If the No.1 seed didn´t send picks then the opponent of No.2 seed will move to that part of the draw and No.2 seed will receive walkover, etc (If the No.1 and No.2 seeds didn´t send then No.3 receives walkover).
In other matches where only one sent, those who have sent will receive walkovers.

DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL) ------> (LL).Andrew. (USA) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. WO

1. (6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
2. M.P (HKG) vs. Fantasy Hero (ITA) walkover
3. Med.Nico (SUI) vs. (1) buji (IND) walkover
4. Crux Squall (RUS) vs. (7) hessie (AUS) walkover

New draw
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI) walkover
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. WO
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG) walkover
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN) walkover
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS) walkover
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
(LL).Andrew. (USA) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)


EXAMPLE 8: Where there is 2 1st round matches in which BOTH players don't send picks.

Original draw (Red are non senders)
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
Fantasy Hero (ITA) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. Vincey! (CAN)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL)
LL LIST
1. (LL1).Andrew. (USA)
2. (LL2)Bummel (GER)
3. (LL3)Jose. (POR)
4. (LL4)MichaelN (POL)
5. (LL5)Deumex (GER)
6. (LL6)Igorche (SRB)

Matches where neither send should be replaced first.
LL1 vs LL4 and LL2 vs LL3.
And then rest of the LL are placed against the players who did send (but opponents did not).
LL5 replaces opponent of the lowest ranked player in the draw.
LL6 replaces opponent of the highest ranked player in the draw.

(7) hessie (AUS) vs. Crux Squall (RUS) ------> (LL1).Andrew. (USA) vs. (LL4)MichaelN (POL)
DJDVD (NED) vs. (2) gumoll (POL) ------> (LL2)Bummel (GER) vs. (LL3)Jose. (POR)

1. (6) shuai.P (26th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL6)Igorche (SRB)
2. M.P (45th on TT singles rank) vs. (LL5)Deumex (GER)

New draw
(1) buji (IND) vs. Med.Nico (SUI)
Idemo (AUS) vs. (Q) Q1 (XXX)
rvugt (NED) vs. goOudinUSA (USA)
HenryMag. (POR) vs. (5) Kevin. (USA)

(3) Mynarco (HKG) vs. Nightcrawl3r (ROU)
(LL5)Deumex (GER) vs. M.P (HKG)
diego36arg (ARG) vs. (Q) Q2 (XXX)
tennisbuddy12 (USA) vs. (8) iPatty (USA)

(6) shuai.P (CHN) vs. (LL6)Igorche (SRB)
FORZA SARITA (ITA) vs. Javi. (ESP)
Southend Aussies (AUS) vs. HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)
(Q) Q3 (XXX) vs. (4) MikBs (ITA)

(LL1).Andrew. (USA) vs. (LL4)MichaelN (POL)
(Q) Q4 (XXX) vs. PinkTape (AUS)
Wanderer (SRB) vs. charmedRic (PUR)
(LL2)Bummel (GER) vs. (LL3)Jose. (POR)


EXAMPLE 9: When we have top 30 LEs in the draw (how to make a draw and how to insert ALTs)

TT Singles Qualifying Draw Entry List

Code:
01 Freak3yman84 (USA)             29 LE       (2613)
02 Kirilenko-Fan (GER)            27 LE       (2630)
03 F4CU (ARG)                     26 LE       (2782)
04 histery (ROU)                  25 LE       (2878)
05 sdtoot (GBR)                   23 LE       (3070)
06 Jose. (POR)                    20 LE       (3415)
07 SAISAI-MUG (CHN)               17 LE       (3513)
08 kfh_9118 (AUS)                 15 LE       (3730)
09 Milan. (SRB)                   12 LE       (3982)
10 come on lena (GRE)             10 LE       (4078)
11 Kev. (AUS)                      9 LE       (4170)
12 AdeyC (GBR)                     1 LE       (4415)
13 Mr Show (USA)                 172 LE       (299)
14 luppy55 (AUT)                 173 LE       (292)
15 MarkNL (NED)                  190 LE       (205)
Top 30 Late Entries and are not able to be seeded (Qualifying or Main Draw)
If there aren´t enough players in the draw and Top 30 Late Entries have to be seeded then they should be seeded in reversed order
Singles Q draw (Red are non senders)

(1)Mr Show (USA) vs. BYE
Milan. (SRB) vs. (7)histery (ROU)

(2)luppy55 (AUT) vs. come on lena (GRE)
Jose. (POR) vs. (5)Kirilenko-Fan (GER)

(3)MarkNL (NED) vs. Kev. (AUS)
kfh_9118 (AUS) vs. (6)F4CU (ARG)

(4)Freak3yman84 (USA) vs. SAISAI-MUG (CHN)
AdeyC (GBR) vs. (8)sdtoot (GBR)
ALT LIST
1. (ALT1).Andrew. (USA)
2. (ALT2)Bummel (GER)
3. (ALT3)Deumex (GER)

Arrange players (whose opponents didn't sent) in ranking order (top 30 LEs will be behind "normal" LEs; top 30 LEs should be in reversed order) and then:
ALT1 replaces opponent of the lowest ranked player in the draw.
ALT3 replaces opponent of the highest ranked player in the draw.


1. (3)MarkNL (190 LE) vs. (ALT3)Deumex (GER)
2. Jose. (20 LE) vs. (ALT2)Bummel (GER)
3. AdeyC (1 LE) vs. (ALT1).Andrew. (USA)

New draw
(1)Mr Show (USA) vs. BYE
Milan. (SRB) vs. (7)histery (ROU)

(2)luppy55 (AUT) vs. come on lena (GRE)
Jose. (POR) vs. (ALT2)Bummel (GER)

(3)MarkNL (NED) vs. (ALT3)Deumex (GER)
kfh_9118 (AUS) vs. (6)F4CU (ARG)

(4)Freak3yman84 (USA) vs. SAISAI-MUG (CHN)
AdeyC (GBR) vs. (ALT1).Andrew. (USA)


EXAMPLE 10: Where there is a QR1 match in which BOTH players don't send picks.

TT Singles Qualifying Draw Entry List

Code:
01 Freak3yman84 (USA)             29 LE       (2613)
02 Kirilenko-Fan (GER)            27 LE       (2630)
03 F4CU (ARG)                     26 LE       (2782)
04 histery (ROU)                  25 LE       (2878)
05 sdtoot (GBR)                   23 LE       (3070)
06 Jose. (POR)                    20 LE       (3415)
07 SAISAI-MUG (CHN)               17 LE       (3513)
08 kfh_9118 (AUS)                 15 LE       (3730)
09 Milan. (SRB)                   12 LE       (3982)
10 come on lena (GRE)             10 LE       (4078)
11 Kev. (AUS)                      9 LE       (4170)
12 AdeyC (GBR)                     1 LE       (4415)
13 Mr Show (USA)                 172 LE       (299)
14 luppy55 (AUT)                 173 LE       (292)
15 MarkNL (NED)                  190 LE       (205)
Top 30 Late Entries and are not able to be seeded (Qualifying or Main Draw)
If there aren´t enough players in the draw and Top 30 Late Entries have to be seeded then they should be seeded in reversed order
Singles Q draw (Red are non senders)

(1)Mr Show (USA) vs. BYE
Milan. (SRB) vs. (7)histery (ROU)

(2)luppy55 (AUT) vs. come on lena (GRE)
Jose. (POR) vs. (5)Kirilenko-Fan (GER)

(3)MarkNL (NED) vs. Kev. (AUS)
kfh_9118 (AUS) vs. (6)F4CU (ARG)

(4)Freak3yman84 (USA) vs. SAISAI-MUG (CHN)
AdeyC (GBR) vs. (8)sdtoot (GBR)
ALT LIST
1. (ALT1).Andrew. (USA)
2. (ALT2)Bummel (GER)
3. (ALT3)Deumex (GER)
4. (ALT4)rewan (SRB)


Matches where neither send should be replaced first (with LL1 and LL2)

AdeyC (GBR) vs. (8)sdtoot (GBR) ------> (ALT1).Andrew. (USA) vs. (ALT2)Bummel (GER)

And then rest of the LL are placed against the players who did send (but opponents did not).
ALT3 replaces opponent of the lowest ranked player in the draw.
ALT4 replaces opponent of the highest ranked player in the draw.
(top 30 LEs will be behind "normal" LEs; top 30 LEs should be in reversed order).


(3)MarkNL (190 LE) vs. (ALT4)rewan (SRB)
Jose. (20 LE) vs. (ALT3)Deumex (GER)

New draw
(1)Mr Show (USA) vs. BYE
Milan. (SRB) vs. (7)histery (ROU)

(2)luppy55 (AUT) vs. come on lena (GRE)
Jose. (POR) vs. (ALT3)Deumex (GER)

(3)MarkNL (NED) vs. (ALT4)rewan (SRB)
kfh_9118 (AUS) vs. (6)F4CU (ARG)

(4)Freak3yman84 (USA) vs. SAISAI-MUG (CHN)
(ALT1).Andrew. (USA) vs. (ALT2)Bummel (GER)



Note 1: Where there is 3 1st round matches in which BOTH players don't send picks, we will have:
LL1 vs. LL6
LL2 vs. LL5
LL3 vs. LL4

Note 2: Where there is more than 1 1st round matches in which BOTH players don't send picks, but there is not enough LLs/ALTs, use a combination of the previous examples.

Note 3: For doubles everything is the same, only we are looking at combined ranking and teams already get replaced if one player of a team didn't send picks.
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put me up for Auckland. If I get it, depending on how it goes I will decide later if I want to manage in the future
 

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So starting in 2016 there are now five 32 draw events each week (instead of four) :surprise:

Is there really a need for this, wont this lead to many events with canceled QD or barely enough players :help:


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Brisbane, Shenzhen, Auckland or Hong Kong please :angel:
 

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So starting in 2016 there are now five 32 draw events each week (instead of four) :surprise:

Is there really a need for this, wont this lead to many events with canceled QD or barely enough players :help:


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That´s what we have to find out now and if we notice that we barely have full draws etc. we will go back to 4 ;)
 

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Brisbane (as a co-manager) with Effy.
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That´s what we have to find out now and if we notice that we barely have full draws etc. we will go back to 4 ;)
Michi!, I have not been counting the current number of TT players but this seems aggressive

at least in Week 1, everybody will flock to the three XWTA events so those events will have full QD and some ALT waiting list ... meanwhile, the $25K won't have a full QD and the $10K probably won't even have a full MD and maybe cancelled :tears:
 

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Michi!, I have not been counting the current number of TT players but this seems aggressive

at least in Week 1, everybody will flock to the three XWTA events so those events will have full QD and some ALT waiting list ... meanwhile, the $25K won't have a full QD and the $10K probably won't even have a full MD and maybe cancelled :tears:
as I said, we will test it and go back to four, if necessary
 

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Michi!, I have not been counting the current number of TT players but this seems aggressive

at least in Week 1, everybody will flock to the three XWTA events so those events will have full QD and some ALT waiting list ... meanwhile, the $25K won't have a full QD and the $10K probably won't even have a full MD and maybe cancelled :tears:
that's the point, so that the lower ranked players don't have to lose in Q and gain miserable points but instead can play MD of every CH
 

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that's the point, so that the lower ranked players don't have to lose in Q and gain miserable points but instead can play MD of every CH
what, so the Board wants to cater to the lower ranked players and eliminate QD from ITFs :surprise:
 

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and what is that so shocking and bad ? :weirdo: I thought you were all for helping the lower ranked players :confused:
 

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SAISAI will reply to this via PM (if he wants to), this is the managers thread and not the rules discussions thread and I already replied to SAISAI anyway :p
Next new post in this threas should be from someone who actually wants to manage some event in January!!!!!!!!!
 
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