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Three Hands

Your Hand 2 must beat Hand 1 to receive points & your Hand 3 must beat Hand 1 & 2 combined to receive points!



2014 WTA Tour - Premier Tournaments (2013 Winner)

Brisbane - supertec def. goOudinUSA
Sydney - tina110 def. tenniscreep
Australian Open (Drake1980) - valac222 def. Meelis
Paris - Monzanator def. Szymon
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Doha (OhNaNa) - Proflyer98 def. tina110
Dubai (taloki) - Chilenaitor def. digor
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Indian Wells (tina110) - Meelis def. goOudinUSA
Miami (valac222) - supertec def. Szymon
Charleston (Igorche)
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Stuttgart (tina110)
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Madrid (tenniscreep)
Roma (tildeloltilde)
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Roland Garros (Chilenaitor)
Birmingham
Eastbourne
Wimbledon (Heinann)
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Stanford (goOudinUSA)
Montreal (coolfish1103)
Cincinnati (tildeloltilde)
New Haven - if Premier
US Open (Monzanator)
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Tokyo (Buitenzorg)
Wuhan
Beijing (Meelis)
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Moscow
Singapore (goOudinUSA)
Sofia​
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

Rules
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Choose
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Each participant must choose  9 (2-3-4) different players for [ 64 Draw]

 6 (1-2-3) different players for [ 32 Draw/RR]
 12 (3-4-5) different players for [128 Draw]

participating in the tournament before main draw begins.

- The players must be arranged in the fashion where they are in 3 hands (groups).
- If you choose a qualifier before qualifying is finished, identify the draw spot.  Q1 = first Q on the draw
- If you choose a doubles team you must list both players on the team.
+ Points earned from doubles team will be based on doubles main draw size.
+ Number of picks allowed will still be based on singles main draw size.
- You may not select LL as one of your players.
- You may change your picks once you have posted or messaged the manager.
- For tie break purposes, please list the number of games played for the final.
Hands
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              Hand 1     Hand 2     Hand 3

 64 Draw    = 2 players, 3 players, 4 players

128 Draw    = 3 players, 4 players, 5 players
 32 Draw/RR = 1 player , 2 players, 3 players

- You may list back up players for each player in case there's a withdrawal.
Points Earned

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Each player chosen receives points according to the following chart based on round lost:

    Size  W   F   SF  QF  R16 R32 R64 R128

 64 Draw  6   5   4   3   2   1   0
 16 Draw  4   3   2   1 (For doubles)

128 Draw  7   6   5   4   3   2   1   0
 32 Draw  5   4   3   2   1   0 (For doubles)




          W   F   SF  RR3 RR4

 RR       4   3   2   1   0

Total points earned = 3*(Hand 1) + 2*(Hand 2) -or- 0*(Hand 2) + 1*(Hand 3) -or- 0*(Hand 3)

- Chosen players who received BYE in the draw and lost in their first match will receive 0 points.
- Perfect Hands: Earn bonus points (x2).  Read below for more info.
- No perfect hands bonuses will be awarded for tournaments in RR format.
- No perfect hands will be awarded unless you pick thoroughly singles.
- 2*(Hand 2) if [Hand 2 > Hand 1]    , else 0*(Hand 2).
- 1*(Hand 3) if [Hand 3 > Hand 1 + 2], else 0*(Hand 3).
Tournament Tie Break

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In case there are participants who receive equal points:

- Points acquired in Hand 2 & Hand 3,                        if equal
- Points acquired in Hand 3,                                 if equal
- Points acquired in Hand 2,                                 if equal
- Correct final games guessed,                               if equal
- Closer final games guessed,                                if equal
- Greater of total rankings combined for the players chosen, if equal
- Whoever posted their hands first
Perfect Hands
- Perfect Hands may have multiple combinations.
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How to achieve perfect hands?

 32 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists and 2 of the 4 Quarter-finalists
 64 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists, 4 Quarter-finalists and any 1 Round 16 achiever
128 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists, 4 Quarter-finalists and any 4 Round 16 achievers
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

To Play

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- Simply list your three hands clearly and identify your back ups before main draw begins.
- Back ups are not necessary if undesired.
- List a final tie break but are not necessary if undesired.

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We will use Brisbane 2013 as an example:

Hand 1
- Pavlyuchenkova (Errani)

Hand 2
- Kerber (Stosur)
- Kvitova (Vinci)

Hand 3
- Azarenka (Lisicki)
- Sharapova (Wozniacki)
- S.Williams (Stephens)

Final
- 20 games
Score
- A scoreboard will be updated by the manager

Code:
How to score?

Hand 1
> 4
> 4 x 3 = 12, earns 12 points

Hand 2
> 2 + 1 = 3
> 3 < 4 so 3 x 0 = 0, earns 0 points

Hand 3
> Wozniacki replaces Sharapova
> 3 + 0 + 5 = 8
> 8 > 4 + 3, earns 8 points

Total Scored: 12 + 0 + 8 = 20 Points
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

Ranking Points
- Revisions

Ranking Rule
- Points earned in each tournament (subject to tournament bonuses) will be added to your ranking
- Max 16 tournaments will count, no mandatory tournaments

Tournament Bonuses

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Tournament   WIN  RUP   3-4  5-8  9-16

Grand Slam  x10  x8.0  x6.0 x4.0 x2.0
Premier M.  x6   x4.8  x3.6 x2.4 x1.2
Premier 5   x5   x4.0  x3.0 x2.0
[B]Premier     x4   x3.2  x2.4 x1.6[/B]

If you earned 50 points in Brisbane and were ranked #3, you will earn 50 x 2.4 = 120 points
- Participants ranked 1-8 will be able to play YEC at Singapore, with 2 alts
- 8 Participants not in YEC who have won a tournament in 2014 will be able to play TOC at Sofia, with 2 alts
Code:
Tournament   WIN  RUP   3rd   4th   5th  6th  7th  8th

YEC         x25  x22.5 x20   x17.5 x15  x12.5 x10  x7.5
TOC         x10  x9    x8    x7    x6   x5    x4   x3
Ranking Tie Break

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In case there are participants who receive equal points:

- Lesser total number of tournaments participated, if equal
- Points earned in Grand Slams,                    if equal
- Points earned in Premier Mandatories,            if equal
- Points earned in Premier 5,                      if equal
- Points earned in Premiers,                       if equal
- Points earned in Internationals,                 if equal
- Stay tied
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

Ranking after Miami

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Rank	P Rank	Participants	Points		Brisba	Sydney	AO	Paris	Doha	Dubai	IW	Miami
												
1	2	valac222	1154.4		26		730	14	64	14.4	46.8	259.2
2	1	Meelis  	1150.2		27	14.4	560	10	18	14.4	384	122.4
3	6	supertec	1125.4		232	17.6	51	13	114	9	226.8	462
4	5	Szymon  	1034.6		69.6		414	60.8	72	9	39.6	369.6
5	3	Monzanator	860		43.2	14.4	402	84	20	6	141.6	148.8
6	4	goOudinUSA	744		92.8	6	248	9	18	9	307.2	54
7	7	Proflyer98	684.8		24		120	25.6	220	14.4	219.6	61.2
8	8	tina110 	668.6		46.4	56	264	25.6	168	14.4	33	61.2
9	9	tenniscreep	550.4		26	41.6	114	10	24	26.4	60	248.4
10	10	Buitenzorg	438.2		24	8	45	12	60	6	146.4	136.8
11	17	jankimfan	363.2		27	17.6	51	43.2	0	21.6	54	148.8
12	11	Chilenaitor	358.2		27	5	52	15	62	76	63.6	57.6
13	13	coolfish1103	333.6		27	6	45	15	120	9	57.6	54
14	12	anthonyqld	292.4		46.4	6	240	0	0		0	0
15	15	Zenith. 	282.8			6	56	13	27	8	136.8	36
16	14	Jack.   	264				264	0	0		0	0
17	16	mariusz_pol	263.2		69.6		120	25.6	18		0	30
18	19	digor   	253.2		46.4		54	0	0	44.8	46.8	61.2
19	18	Heinann 	205.2			28.8	120	38.4	18		0	0
20	21	Crux Squall	192		0	0	0	0	0	0	134.4	57.6
21	20	dogwonder24	183.4				45	25.6	18	9	46.8	39
22	23	rbfilipe	112.6				55	0	0		0	57.6
23	22	tildeloltilde	103.4		24	26.4	53	0	0		0	0
24	24	Drake1980	42				42	0	0		0	0
25	25	HawkAussie	18		18			0	0		0	0
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

Main Draw

S.Williams v BYE
Oudin v Cepelova
Lepchenko v Cetkovska
Schmiedlova v Vesnina

Hantuchova v Rogers
Q1 v Q2
Mayr-Achleitner v Pereira
BYE v Cirstea

Errani v BYE
Ormaechea v Q3
Garcia v Peng
Lucic-Baroni v Keys

Kirilenko v Q4
Erakovic v Petrova
Svitolina v Q5
BYE v Stephens

Stosur v BYE
Q6 v Shvedova
Goerges v Razzano
Larsson v Safarova

Petkovic v Q7
Medina Garrigues v Dominguez Lino
King v Glushko
BYE v Lisicki

Bouchard v BYE
McHale v Q8
Riske v Scheepers
Zahlavova Strycova v V.Williams

Zhang v Hsieh
Voegele v Tomljanovic
Pfizenmaier v Davis
BYE v Jankovic
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

Player Results after Final
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Players_________	Points
	
Petkovic________	6

Bouchard________	4
Jankovic________	3
Errani__________	3
Safarova________	3
Hantuchova______	3
Svitolina_______	2
V.Williams______	2
Stosur__________	2
Lisicki_________	2
Vesnina_________	2
Davis___________	1
King____________	1
Min_____________	1
Keys____________	1
Garcia__________	0
McHale__________	0
S.Williams______	0
Petrova_________	0
Cirstea_________	0
Stephens________	0
Scoreboard after Final
Code:
Participants____	Score
	
Zenith._________	36  TB: Hand 2&3 = 30

dogwonder24_____	36  TB: Hand 2&3 = 18

valac222________	34
tina110_________	31

Chilenaitor_____	28
Proflyer98______	27
Meelis__________	25
coolfish1103____	25

tenniscreep_____	24
supertec________	24
Crux Squall_____	24
Szymon__________	22
Buitenzorg______	22
goOudinUSA______	19
mariusz_pol_____	18
Monzanator______	18
jankimfan_______	15
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

Picks

Code:
	1011		Crux Squall_____	24	TB	N/A	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Petkovic________	6		V.Williams______	2		S.Williams______	0
Svitolina_______	2		Garcia__________	0		Jankovic________	3
                	0		McHale__________	0		Cirstea_________	0
                			                	0		Safarova________	3
                			                	0		                	0
Points          	8		                	2		                	6
Bonus Validation	24		                	0		                	0
							
	1012		jankimfan_______	15	TB	18	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
V.Williams______	2		Safarova________	3		S.Williams______	0
Errani__________	3		Stephens________	0		Jankovic________	3
                	0		Stosur__________	2		Garcia__________	0
                			                	0		Lisicki_________	2
                			                	0		                	0
Points          	5		                	5		                	5
Bonus Validation	15		                	0		                	0
							
	1013		dogwonder24_____	36	TB	17	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Errani__________	3		S.Williams______	0		V.Williams______	2
Jankovic________	3		Safarova________	3		Bouchard________	4
                	0		Petkovic________	6		Svitolina_______	2
                			                	0		McHale__________	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	6		                	9		                	8
Bonus Validation	18		                	18		                	0
							
	1014		coolfish1103____	25	TB	22	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		V.Williams______	2		Errani__________	3
Stephens________	0		Stosur__________	2		Lisicki_________	2
                	0		Jankovic________	3		Hantuchova______	3
                			                	0		Safarova________	3
                			                			                	0
Points          	0		                	7		                	11
Bonus Validation	0		                	14		                	11
							
	1015		mariusz_pol_____	18	TB	18	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		Safarova________	3		Jankovic________	3
V.Williams______	2		Errani__________	3		Keys____________	1
                	0		Stephens________	0		Hantuchova______	3
                			                	0		King____________	1
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	6		                	8
Bonus Validation	6		                	12		                	0
							
	2016		tina110_________	31	TB	24	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Hantuchova______	3		Lisicki_________	2		S.Williams______	0
Vesnina_________	2		V.Williams______	2		Jankovic________	3
                	0		Bouchard________	4		Stephens________	0
                			                	0		Cirstea_________	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	5		                	8		                	3
Bonus Validation	15		                	16		                	0
							
	2017		Szymon__________	22	TB	27	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		Lisicki_________	2		Petrova_________	0
V.Williams______	2		Errani__________	3		Stosur__________	2
                	0		Jankovic________	3		Cirstea_________	0
                			                	0		Stephens________	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	8		                	2
Bonus Validation	6		                	16		                	0
							
	2018		Proflyer98______	27	TB	20	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		Jankovic________	3		Stosur__________	2
Stephens________	0		V.Williams______	2		Safarova________	3
                	0		Errani__________	3		Lisicki_________	2
                			                	0		Bouchard________	4
                			                			                	0
Points          	0		                	8		                	11
Bonus Validation	0		                	16		                	11
							
	2019		Monzanator______	18	TB	18	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Jankovic________	3		S.Williams______	0		Keys____________	1
Safarova________	3		V.Williams______	2		Svitolina_______	2
                	0		Errani__________	3		Petrova_________	0
                			                	0		Cirstea_________	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	6		                	5		                	3
Bonus Validation	18		                	0		                	0
							
	2020		goOudinUSA______	19	TB	22	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		V.Williams______	2		Jankovic________	3
Keys____________	1		Bouchard________	4		Safarova________	3
                	0		Stosur__________	2		Cirstea_________	0
                			                	0		Stephens________	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	1		                	8		                	6
Bonus Validation	3		                	16		                	0
							
	2021		valac222________	34	TB	19	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		Stephens________	0		V.Williams______	2
Jankovic________	3		Errani__________	3		Petkovic________	6
                	0		Stosur__________	2		Bouchard________	4
                			                	0		Hantuchova______	3
                			                			                	0
Points          	3		                	5		                	15
Bonus Validation	9		                	10		                	15
							
	2022		Buitenzorg______	22	TB	20	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		Jankovic________	3		Stephens________	0
V.Williams______	2		Errani__________	3		Bouchard________	4
                	0		Stosur__________	2		Safarova________	3
                			                	0		Cirstea_________	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	8		                	7
Bonus Validation	6		                	16		                	0
							
	2023		Zenith._________	36	TB	16	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		Jankovic________	3		Lisicki_________	2
V.Williams______	2		Safarova________	3		Bouchard________	4
                	0		Errani__________	3		Stephens________	0
                			                	0		Petkovic________	6
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	9		                	12
Bonus Validation	6		                	18		                	12
							
	2024		Chilenaitor_____	28	TB	22	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		V.Williams______	2		Jankovic________	3
Stephens________	0		Stosur__________	2		Lisicki_________	2
                	0		Errani__________	3		Petkovic________	6
                			                	0		Safarova________	3
                			                			                	0
Points          	0		                	7		                	14
Bonus Validation	0		                	14		                	14
							
	2025		Meelis__________	25	TB	19	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		Jankovic________	3		Stosur__________	2
Safarova________	3		Lisicki_________	2		V.Williams______	2
                	0		Errani__________	3		Bouchard________	4
                			                	0		Min_____________	1
                			                			                	0
Points          	3		                	8		                	9
Bonus Validation	9		                	16		                	0
							
	2027		supertec________	24	TB	19	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
S.Williams______	0		Safarova________	3		Bouchard________	4
V.Williams______	2		Jankovic________	3		Hantuchova______	3
                	0		Errani__________	3		Davis___________	1
                			                	0		Stephens________	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	9		                	8
Bonus Validation	6		                	18		                	0
							
	2026		tenniscreep_____	24	TB	18	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
V.Williams______	2		S.Williams______	0		Safarova________	3
Jankovic________	3		Lisicki_________	2		Stosur__________	2
                	0		Stephens________	0		Keys____________	1
                			                	0		Hantuchova______	3
                			                			                	0
Points          	5		                	2		                	9
Bonus Validation	15		                	0		                	9
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

Hall of Fame

Winners
- Unofficial 2013 winner stat: tildeloltilde - 2P5 (Roma & Cincinnati)

1. supertec - 1 PM & Premier (Brisbane, Miami)
2. valac222 - 1 GS (Melbourne)
3. Meelis - 1 PM (Indian Wells)
4. Proflyer98 - 1 Premier 5 (Doha)
5. Chilenaitor - 1 Premier (Dubai)
5. tina110 - 1 Premier (Sydney)
5. Monzanator - 1 Premier (Paris)

Finals
- Unofficial 2013 winner stat: tildeloltilde - 1PM & 3P5 (Roma, Cincinnati, Tokyo, Beijing)

1. Meelis - 1 GS & PM (Melbourne, Indian Wells)
2. goOudinUSA - 1 PM & Premier (Brisbane, Indian Wells)
2. supertec - 1 PM & Premier (Brisbane, Miami)
2. Szymon - 1 PM & Premier (Paris, Miami)
5. tina110 - 1 Premier 5 & Premier (Sydney, Doha)
6. valac222 - 1 GS (Melbourne)
7. Proflyer98 - 1 Premier 5 (Doha)
8. Chilenaitor - 1 Premier (Dubai)
8. Monzanator - 1 Premier (Paris)
8. digor - 1 Premier (Dubai)
8. tenniscreep - 1 Premier (Sydney)

Perfect Hands
- Unofficial 2013 winner stat: Jack.(OhNaNa), goOudinUSA, Buitenzorg, anthonyqld, Chilenaitor - 1 (Doha*)

1. supertec - 1 - Brisbane

* 2013 Doha was played under the old rule of 1-2-3 rather than 2-3-4 per hand.

Total weeks as #1
- Unofficial 2013 winner stat: Buitenzorg - 20 weeks

1. valac222 - 8 : Paris > Indian Wells, since Charleston
2. supertec - 4 : Brisbane > Melbourne
3. Meelis - 2 : Miami


Consecutive weeks as #1
- Unofficial 2013 winner stat: Buitenzorg - 20 consecutive weeks (Birmingham to Istanbul)

1. valac222 (1) - 7 : Paris > Indian Wells
2. supertec - 4 : Brisbane > Melbourne
3. Meelis - 2 : Miami
4. valac222 (2) - 1 : since Charleston

Statistics

Race to Singapore
- Top 8 on ranking list

1. valac222
2. Meelis
3. supertec
4. Szymon
5. Monzanator
6. goOudinUSA
7. Proflyer98
8. tina110

Race to Sofia
- Subject to Singapore qualifications

1. valac222 - Melbourne
2. Meelis - Indian Wells
3. supertec - Brisbane, Miami
4. Monzanator - Paris
5. Proflyer98 - Doha
6. tina110 - Sydney
7. Chilenaitor - Dubai

Weeks as #1

supertec (1) - 4 weeks
- Week of Brisbane
- Week of Sydney
- Weeks of Australian Open

valac222 (2.1) - 7 weeks
- Week of Paris
- Week of Fed Cup
- Week of Doha
- Week of Dubai
- Week of Acapulco/Florianopolis
- Weeks of Indian Wells

Meelis (3) - 2 weeks

valac222 (2.2) - 1 week
- Week of Charleston

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston

Announcement

2014/03/27: Main Draw for Charleston is 56 so you need to pick 2-3-4 for this Premier event.
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (2-3-4)

Hand 1
V. Williams, Errani
Hand 2
Safarova, Stephens, Stosur
Hand 3
S.Williams, Jankovic, Garcia, Lisicki

ALT: Svitolina, Rogers, Keys
Final : 18 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (2-3-4)

Hand 1
Errani
Jankovic
Hand 2
S.Williams
Safarova
Petkovic
Hand 3
V.Williams
Bouchard
Svitolina
McHale

Final: 17 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (2-3-4)

Hand 1
- S.Williams
- Stephens
Hand 2
- V.Williams
- Stosur
- Jankovic
Hand 3
- Errani
- Lisicki
- Hantuchova
- Safarova
Final
- 22 games
Alt
- Keys
- Bouchard
- Petkovic
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (2-3-4)

Hand 1:

S. Williams, V. Williams

Hand 2:

Safarova, Errani, Stephens

Hand 3:

Jankovic, Keys, Hantuchova, King

ALT: Petkovic, Bouchard, Erakovic
Final: 18 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (2-3-4)

Hand 1:

Hantuchova
Vesnina

Hand 2:

Lisicki
V. Williams
Bouchard

Hand 3:

S. Williams
Jankovic
Stephens
Cirstea

Alts:

Kirilenko
Petkovic
Errani

Final:

24 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (2-3-4)

Hand 1
S.Williams
V.Williams
Hand 2
Lisicki
Errani
Jankovic
Hand 3
Petrova
Stosur
Cirstea
Stephens
Alts
Bouchard
Safarova
Keys
Final
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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (Play here as you submit your FITD!)

Hand 1:
S. Williams
Stephens

Hand 2:
V. Williams
Jankovic
Errani

Hand 3:
Stosur
Safarova
Lisicki
Bouchard

Alternates:
Petkovic
Hantuchova
Svitolina
Cirstea

Final:
20 Games
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (Play here as you submit your FITD!)

H1
Jankovic, Safarova

H2
S.Williams, Errani, V.Williams

H3
Keys, Svitolina, Petrova, Cirstea

Bonus: 18 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #9 - Charleston (Play here as you submit your FITD!)

Hand 1 - S.Williams, Keys
Hand 2 - V.Williams, Bouchard, Stosur
Hand 3 - Jankovic, Safarova, Cirstea, Stephens
ALT - Errani, Petkovic, Hantuchova
Final - 22 games
 
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