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Three Hands

2013 will be Test Season for suggestions and changes!

Please read the rule post carefully as there are rule changes throughout the season.



2013 Test Season Tournaments

Australian Open - Drake1980 def. SAISAI-GOAT
Doha - OhNaNa def. goOudinUSA
Dubai
Indian Wells
Miami
Charleston
Stuttgart
Madrid
Rome
Roland Garros
Wimbledon
Stanford
Carlsbad
Toronto
Cincinnati
US Open
Tokyo
Beijing
Istanbul​
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Rules

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- Each participant must choose 6 different players participating in the tournament before main draw begins and mark the round the player will advance.
- The 6 players must be arranged in the fashion where they are in 3 hands (groups).
- If you choose a qualifier before qualifying is finished, identify the draw spot. Q1 = first Q on the draw
- You may not select a LL as one of your players. If the Q chosen on the list happens to be a LL, the next Q down the list will be used.
- You may not change your picks once you have posted.

Hands
- Hand 1 = 1 player
- Hand 2 = 2 players
- Hand 3 = 3 players
- 1 back up player may be listed for each player in case there's a withdrawal. No duplicates.

Points Earned
- Each hand receives points according to the following chart

Code:
    Size  W   F   SF  QF  R16 R32 R64 R128

128 Draw  7   6   5   4   3   2   1   0
 64 Draw  6   5   4   3   2   1   0
 32 Draw  5   4   3   2   1   0

          W   F   SF  RR3 RR4

 RR       4   3   2   1   0
- Chosen players who received BYE and lost in their first match will receive 0 points.
- Each hand will receive points according to the the round each player chosen lost in the tournament, though
- Hand 2 must beat Hand 1, or it's invalid. If it's a valid hand, points (x2).
- Hand 3 must beat Hands 1 & 2, or it's invalid. If it's a valid hand, points (x3).
- Perfect Hands: Receiving best possible points before hand bonuses applied will have total points (x2).
- No perfect hands bonuses will be awarded for tournaments in RR format.
- Invalid hands receive 0 points.

Tournament Tie Break (in case there are participants who receive equal points)
- Number of valid hands, if equal
- Total points acquired in Hand 2 & Hand 3, if equal
- Total points acquired in Hand 3, if equal
- Total points acquired in Hand 2, if equal
- Number of correct rounds per player named, if equal
- Lesser of deviation points earned for the rounds, if equal
- Greater of total rankings combined for the six players chosen, if equal
- Whoever posted their hands first

Deviation Points - Further Explanation

You will earn deviation points for each incorrect round predicted. Using AO 2013 as an example:

coolfish1103 picked Ivanovic for Round 32, but she reached R16, that's equivalent of 1 deviation point
Drake1980 picked Kerber for QF, but she reached R16, that's also equivalent of 1 deviation point
SAISAI-GOAT picked S.Williams for W, but she reached QF, that's equivalent of 3 deviation points

Each participant will predict the rounds the six players, so total deviation points will be the sum

Total Ranking Points - Further Explanation

If we can still not find a result by using deviation points, we will use the total ranking points of the six players combined. We will award risky choices by awarding the greater sum of the total ranking points.
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

To Play

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- Simply list your three hands clearly and identify your back ups before main draw begins.
- Back ups are not necessary if undesired.
- Round chosen for the original player will be applied to the back ups as well.
- We will use Brisbane 2013 as an example.

Hand 1
- Pavlyuchenkova QF (Errani)

Hand 2
- Kerber SF (Stosur)
- Kvitova QF (Vinci)

Hand 3
- Azarenka SF (Lisicki)
- Sharapova F (Wozniacki)
- S.Williams W (Stephens)

Score
- A scoreboard will be updated by the manager

Hand 1
> 4

Hand 2
> 2+1 = 3
> Invalid = 3 x 0 = 0

Hand 3
> Wozniacki replaces Sharapova
> 3+0+5 = 8
> Valid = 8 x 3 = 24

Total Scored: 4+0+24 = 28 Points

Perfect Hands
- Usually it's 19 points for 32 draws for perfect hands.
- However, in this tournament it will be 18 points because no one can pick Tsurenko beforehand.
- So, best possible = total points x2 = 92 points!
- Perfect Hands may have multiple combinations so points awarded could be different.

Hand 1
- Stephens
> 2

Hand 2
- Kerber
- Hantuchova
> 2+2 = 4
> Valid = 4 x 2 = 8

Hand 3
- S.Williams
- Pavlyuenkova
- Azarenka
> 5+4+3 = 12
> Valid = 12 x 3 = 36
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Ranking Points

Ranking Rule
- Points earned in each tournament (subject to tournament bonuses) will be added to your ranking
- Max 16 tournaments will count, no mandatory tournaments

Tournament Bonuses

Code:
Tournament   WIN  RUP   3-4  5-8  9-16

Grand Slam  x16  x12.8 x9.6 x6.4 x3.2
Premier M.  x8   x6.4  x4.8 x3.2 x1.6
Premier 5   x6   x4.8  x3.6 x2.4 x1.2
Premier     x4   x3.2  x2.4 x1.6
Int.        x2   x1.6  x1.2
- Participants ranked 1-8 will be able to play YEC, with 2 alts
- 8 Participants not in YEC who have won an Int. this year will be able to play TOC, with 2 alts

Code:
Tournament   WIN  RUP   3rd   4th   5th  6th  7th  8th

YEC         x25  x22.5 x20   x17.5 x15  x12.5 x10  x7.5
TOC         x10  x9    x8    x7    x6   x5    x4   x3
Ranking Tie Break (in case there are participants who receive equal points)
- Lesser total number of tournaments participated, if equal
- Points earned in Grand Slams, if equal
- Points earned in Premier Mandatories, if equal
- Points earned in Premier 5, if equal
- Points earned in Premiers, if equal
- Points earned in Internationals, if equal
- Stay tied
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Ranking Points after Doha:

Code:
Rank	Participants	Points		AO	Doha
					
1	Drake1980	1216.8		1152	64.8
2	OhNaNa  	964.8		220.8	744
3	SAISAI-GOAT	921.6		921.6	
4	tina110 	734.6		681.6	53
5	Cheda 16.17	681.6		681.6	
6	Buitenzorg	670.4		224	446.4
7	goOudinUSA	655.2		60	595.2
8	valac222	525.2		454.4	70.8
8	luvwilliams	525.2		454.4	70.8
10	anthonyqld	512.4		66	446.4
11	feifei  	507.4		454.4	53
12	traddles	454.4		454.4	
13	Heinann 	368		224	144
14	taloki  	360.8		214.4	146.4
15	Chilenaitor	359.6		62	297.6
16	Kylger  	294.8		224	70.8
17	Igorche 	290		224	66
18	Reephoria.	285.2		214.4	70.8
19	supertec	224		224	
20	JustPetko	206.4		60	146.4
21	Barktra 	139		67	72
22	Meelis  	133		61	72
23	coolfish1103	119		66	53
24	Monzanator	105		53	52
25	lolada_4	80		60	20
26	champion88	67		67	
26	Hidalgo 	67		67	
28	charmedRic	66		66	
29	plokploky	64		64	
30	HateBlackouts02	63		63	
30	come on lena	63		63	
32	DiRenan 	60		60	
33	rbfilipe	56		56	
34	lizzard11120	48		48	
35	JustWonderful	42		42
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Scoreboard after final result:

Code:
   Participant	Total
	
01 taloki	38
02 Buitenzorg	34 Total Points in Hands 2&3 = 34
03 Barktra	34 Total Points in Hands 2&3 = 30
04 OhNaNa	32
05 Drake1980	30 First post
06 Chilenaitor	30
07 Igorche	21
08 Heinann	18

-- TB Unnecessary

09 coolfish1103	17 
10 feifei	16
10 Monzanator	16
12 Kylger	15
13 JustPetko	14
14 luvwilliams	13
15 goOudinUSA	12
16 tina110	11
17 valac222	4
17 DiRenan	4
17 Meelis	4
20 champion88	3
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Picks

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Post  Participant  Hand 1    Hand 2             Hand 3

01013 coolfish1103 Wozni QF  Kvito QF/Stosu SF  [B]Erran F[/B]/S.Wil W/A.Rad SF
01014 tina110      Wozni QF  Kerbe SF/Erran QF  A.Rad SF/S.Wil F/[B]Safarova W[/B]
01015 goOudinUSA   Stosu QF  Kvito QF/Kerbe SF  A.Rad SF/S.Wil F/[B]Lepch W[/B]
02016 OhNaNa       Stosu QF  Kerbe SF/A.Rad QF  S.Wil SF/Kvito F/[B]Petro W[/B]
02017 Buitenzorg   Goerg QF  A.Rad QF/S.Wil SF  Stosu SF/Kvito F/[B]Wozni W[/B]
02019 valac222     Kvito QF  Wozni QF/Kerbe SF  A.Rad SF/S.Wil F/[B]Erran W[/B]
02020 Meelis       Kvito R2  Cibul R2/Stosu QF  [B]Goerg F[/B]/A.Rad W/Wozni SF
02021 Heinann      Stosu QF  Wozni QF/Kvito QF  A.Rad SF/[B]Kerbe F[/B]/S.Wil W
02022 Drake1980    Wozni QF  Stosu QF/S.Wil SF  [B]Barto W[/B]/A.Rad F/Kvito SF
02023 Monzanator   Robso R2  Wozni QF/Kvito QF  A.Rad SF/[s]Azare F[/s]/S.Wil W
02024 JustPetko    Robso R2  Kvito QF/Stosu QF  S.Wil W/[B]Wozni F[/B]/A.Rad SF
02025 champion88   Wozni QF  Kerbe SF/Stosu QF  S.Wil W/[s]Azare F[/s]/A.Rad SF
02026 Igorche      Wozni QF  Makar SF/Kerbe QF  Azare W/[B]Steph F[/B]/A.Rad SF
02027 Kylger       Wozni QF  Erran QF/Stosu QF  A.Rad SF/[B]Goerg F[/B]/S.Wil W
02028 Barktra      Erran R2  Cibul R2/Stosu QF  [B]Kvito F[/B]/A.Rad W/Wozni SF
02029 taloki       Goerg QF  A.Rad QF/Stosu SF  Kvito SF/[B]Petro F[/B]/S.Wil W
02030 Chilenaitor  Wozni QF  Stosu QF/S.Wil SF  Kvito SF/[B]Barto F[/B]/A.Rad W
03031 feifei       Stosu QF  Kvito QF/A.Rad SF  Kerbe SF/[B]Erran F[/B]/S.Wil W
03032 DiRenan      Kvito QF  Kerbe QF/Stosu SF  Wozni SF/[B]Cibul F[/B]/S.Wil W
03033 luvwilliams  Wozni QF  Kvito QF/Kerbe SF  A.Rad SF/[B]Barto F[/B]/S.Wil W
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Main Draw

Victoria Azarenka [1] - Bye
Dominika Cibulkova - Nadia Petrova
Sloane Stephens - Sorana Cirstea
Sara Errani [5] - Julia Goerges

Angelique Kerber [4] - Bye
Roberta Vinci - Q1
Varvara Lepchenko - Su-Wei Hsieh
Samantha Stosur [7] - Ekaterina Makarova

Petra Kvitova [6] - Q2
Ana Ivanovic - Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
Laura Robson - Yulia Putintseva
Agnieszka Radwanska [3] - Bye

Caroline Wozniacki [8] - Lucie Safarova
Q3 - Q4
Marion Bartoli - Klara Zakopalova
Serena Williams [2] - Bye

Once Qualifying is finished the players who advanced will be updated here if they can still be selected.
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Reserved for something random.

It's something patchy in mind but related to this.
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Hand 1

Wozniacki QF (Safarova)

Hand 2

Kvitova QF (Ivanovic)
Stosur SF (Kerber)

Hand 3

Azarenka F (Errani)
Williams W (Bartoli)
A.Radwanska SF (Robson)
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Hand 1:

Wozniacki (QF - Safarova)

Hand 2:

Kerber (SF - Goerges)
Errani (QF - Stephens)

Hand 3:

A. Radwanska (SF - Kvitova)
S. Williams (RU - Bartoli)
Azarenka (Winner)
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Hand 1:

Stosur - QF(Wozniacki)

Hand 2:

Kvitova - QF(Errani)
Kerber - SF(Stephens)

Hand 3:

A.Radwanska - SF(Ivanovic)
S.Williams - F(Safarova)
Azarenka - W(Lepchenko)
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Hand 1:
Stosur - Quarter Final (Makarova)

Hand 2:
Kerber - Semi Final (Vinci)
A. Radwanska - Quarter final (Robson)

Hand 3:
S.Williams - Semi-Final (Wozniacki)
Kvitova - Final (Ivanovic)
Azarenka - Winner (Petrova)
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Hand 1

Goerges (QF)

Hand 2

A.Radwanska (QF)
S. Williams (SF)

Hand 3

Stosur (SF)
Kvitova (RU)
Azarenka (W)

Back Up: Wozniacki (QF)
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai

Tournament Rules for Dubai will remain unchanged (same as Doha).

Tournament Rules for Indian Wells and on will change. It will be in RED fonts in once the thread for Indian Wells is opened.

Apologies for the rule changes as the game is still in test season.

You can view your current ranking in the ranking post on the first page of this thread.
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai [New Players Welcome]

Hand 1:

Kvitova - QF

Hand 2:
Wozniacki - QF
Kerber - SF

Hand 3:

A.Radwanska - SF
S.Williams - RU
Azarenka - W


(Errani for all)
 

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Re: Three Hands #3 - Dubai [New Players Welcome]

Hand 1:

Kvitova (R2)

Hand 2:

Cibulkova (R2)
Stosur (QF)

Hand 3:

Azarenka (RU)
Radwanska (W)
Wozniacki (SF)

Back-up: Goerges
 
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