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Three Hands

2013 will be Test Season for suggestions and changes!

Please read the rule post carefully as there are rule changes throughout the season.



2013 Test Season Tournaments

Australian Open - Drake1980 def. SAISAI-GOAT
Doha - OhNaNa def. goOudinUSA
Dubai - taloki def. Buitenzorg
Indian Wells - tina110 def. valac222
Miami - valac222 def. digor
Charleston - Igorche def. DiRenan
Stuttgart - tina110 def. Kylger
Madrid - tenniscreep def. coolfish1103
Rome - tildeloltilde def. Drake1980
Roland Garros - Chilenaitor def. Buitenzorg
Wimbledon - Heinann def. Cheda 16.17
Stanford - goOudinUSA def. coolfish1103
Carlsbad
Toronto
Cincinnati
US Open
Tokyo
Beijing
Istanbul​
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [New Players Welcome!]

Rules

Choose
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Each participant must choose

12 (3-4-5) different players for [128 Draw] or
 9 (2-3-4) different players for [ 64 Draw] or
 6 (1-2-3) different players for [ 32 Draw/RR]

participating in the tournament before main draw begins.

- The players must be arranged in the fashion where they are in 3 hands (groups).
- If you choose a qualifier before qualifying is finished, identify the draw spot.  Q1 = first Q on the draw
- You may not select LL as one of your players.
- You may not change your picks once you have posted.
- For tie break purposes, please list the number of games played for the final.
Hands
Code:
         128 draw   64 draw    32 draw/RR

Hand 1 = 3 players, 2 players, 1 player
Hand 2 = 4 players, 3 players, 2 players
Hand 3 = 5 players, 4 players, 3 players

- You may list back up players for each player in case there's a withdrawal.
Points Earned

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Each player chosen receives points according to the following chart based on round lost:

    Size  W   F   SF  QF  R16 R32 R64 R128

128 Draw  7   6   5   4   3   2   1   0
 64 Draw  6   5   4   3   2   1   0
 32 Draw  5   4   3   2   1   0

          W   F   SF  RR3 RR4

 RR       4   3   2   1   0

Total points earned = 3*(Hand 1) + 2*(Hand 2) -or- 0*(Hand 2) + 1*(Hand 3) -or- 0*(Hand 3)

- Chosen players who received BYE in the draw and lost in their first match will receive 0 points.
- Perfect Hands: Earn bonus points (x2).  Read below for more info.
- No perfect hands bonuses will be awarded for tournaments in RR format.
- 2*(Hand 2) if [Hand 2 > Hand 1]    , else 0*(Hand 2).
- 1*(Hand 3) if [Hand 3 > Hand 1 + 2], else 0*(Hand 3).
Tournament Tie Break

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In case there are participants who receive equal points:

- Points acquired in Hand 2 & Hand 3,                        if equal
- Points acquired in Hand 3,                                 if equal
- Points acquired in Hand 2,                                 if equal
- Correct final games guessed,                               if equal
- Closer final games guessed,                                if equal
- Greater of total rankings combined for the players chosen, if equal
- Whoever posted their hands first
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [New Players Welcome!]

To Play

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- Simply list your three hands clearly and identify your back ups before main draw begins.
- Back ups are not necessary if undesired.
- List a final tie break but are not necessary if undesired.

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We will use Brisbane 2013 as an example:

Hand 1
- Pavlyuchenkova (Errani)

Hand 2
- Kerber (Stosur)
- Kvitova (Vinci)

Hand 3
- Azarenka (Lisicki)
- Sharapova (Wozniacki)
- S.Williams (Stephens)

Final
- 20 games
Score
- A scoreboard will be updated by the manager

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How to score?

Hand 1
> 4
> 4 x 3 = 12, earns 12 points

Hand 2
> 2 + 1 = 3
> 3 < 4 so 3 x 0 = 0, earns 0 points

Hand 3
> Wozniacki replaces Sharapova
> 3 + 0 + 5 = 8
> 8 > 4 + 3, earns 8 points

Total Scored: 12 + 0 + 8 = 20 Points
Perfect Hands
- Perfect Hands may have multiple combinations.
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How to achieve perfect hands?

 32 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists and 2 of the 4 Quarter-finalists
 64 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists, 4 Quarter-finalists and any 1 Round 16 achiever
128 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists, 4 Quarter-finalists and any 4 Round 16 achievers
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [New Players Welcome!]

Ranking Points

Ranking Rule
- Points earned in each tournament (subject to tournament bonuses) will be added to your ranking
- Max 16 tournaments will count, no mandatory tournaments

Tournament Bonuses

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Tournament   WIN  RUP   3-4  5-8  9-16

Grand Slam  x16  x12.8 x9.6 x6.4 x3.2
Premier M.  x8   x6.4  x4.8 x3.2 x1.6
Premier 5   x6   x4.8  x3.6 x2.4 x1.2
Premier     x4   x3.2  x2.4 x1.6
Int.        x2   x1.6  x1.2
- Participants ranked 1-8 will be able to play YEC, with 2 alts
- 8 Participants not in YEC who have won an Int. this year will be able to play TOC, with 2 alts

Code:
Tournament   WIN  RUP   3rd   4th   5th  6th  7th  8th

YEC         x25  x22.5 x20   x17.5 x15  x12.5 x10  x7.5
TOC         x10  x9    x8    x7    x6   x5    x4   x3
Ranking Tie Break

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In case there are participants who receive equal points:

- Lesser total number of tournaments participated, if equal
- Points earned in Grand Slams,                    if equal
- Points earned in Premier Mandatories,            if equal
- Points earned in Premier 5,                      if equal
- Points earned in Premiers,                       if equal
- Points earned in Internationals,                 if equal
- Stay tied
* Note that 2013 Australian Open and Doha will earn less ranking points due to less players picked.
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [New Players Welcome!]

Ranking after Stanford:

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Rank	P Rank	Participants	Points		Roma	RG	Wimby	Stanford
								
1	1	Buitenzorg	2324.6		88.8	947.2	108.8	33.6
2	2	valac222	2222.6		37.2	454.4	30	21
3	3	Drake1980	2117		225.6	172.8	105.6	
4	4	tina110 	2113.8		32.4	172.8	275.2	12
5	5	OhNaNa  	1864.6		84	153.6	21	18
6	6	Chilenaitor	1781.2			1216	24	
7	7	goOudinUSA	1758.4		158.4	172.8	131.2	116
8	8	Heinann 	1654.8		27	172.8	928	52.8
9	9	taloki  	1469		34.8	691.2	27	20
10	10	Igorche 	1442.4		32.4	377.6	99.2	17
11	11	Cheda 16.17	1296				614.4	
12	13	DiRenan 	1274		133.2	345.6	451.2	52.8
13	12	SAISAI-GOAT	1238.8			42	275.2	
14	15	Kylger  	1158.4		34.8	441.6	22	35.2
15	14	Barktra 	1141			710.4	24	
16	16	feifei  	1063		24		27	
17	17	Meelis  	1055.2		79.2	172.8	118.4	35.2
18	18	coolfish1103	987.8		18	48	124.8	76.8
19	19	digor   	898.2		32.4	42	281.6	33.6
20	20	Monzanator	779.6		84	45	115.2	8
21	21	tildeloltilde	744.2		294	172.8	262.4	15
22	22	anthonyqld	619.8		24		27	
23	23	luvwilliams	538.2					
24	24	Proflyer98	526.2		27	48	451.2	
25	26	tenniscreep	469.8		36	45	27	21
26	25	traddles	454.4					
27	27	rbfilipe	337.4		39.6	169.6	21	
28	28	JustPetko	337.4				30	
29	29	Hidalgo 	335.8					
30	30	Reephoria.	285.2					
31	31	champion88	272.6					
32	32	supertec	224					
33	33	ArturJFC	133.2				115.2	18
34	34	HawkAussie	83		20			
35	35	lolada_4	80					
36	36	charmedRic	66					
37	37	plokploky	64					
38	38	come on lena	63					
39	39	lizzard11120	48					
40	40	JustWonderful	42
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [New Players Welcome!]

Player's Result after Final:

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Players_________	Points
	
Stosur__________	5
Azarenka________	4

Ivanovic________	3
A.Radwanska_____	2
U.Radwanska_____	2
Kvitova_________	2
Vinci___________	2
Hantuchova______	1
Jankovic________	1
Suarez Navarro__	1
Mattek-Sands____	1
Cibulkova_______	0
Lepchenko_______	0
Paszek__________	0
Goerges_________	0
Kuznetsova______	0
Scoreboard after Final:

Code:
Participants____	Score
	
databol_________	26  Correct Final

Meelis__________	26

Igorche_________	22
digor___________	21

Buitenzorg______	18  18
Kylger__________	18  18
valac222________	18  19
tildeloltilde___	18  20

coolfish1103____	18  22
ArturJFC________	18  N/A
tenniscreep_____	16
goOudinUSA______	16
Monzanator______	15
taloki__________	14
mariusz_pol_____	14
Drake1980_______	14
tina110_________	12
Heinann_________	12
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [New Players Welcome!]

Picks

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	01010		coolfish1103____	18	TB	22	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
A.Radwanska_____	2		Azarenka________	4		Vinci___________	2
                	0		Kvitova_________	2		Kuznetsova______	0
                	0		                	0		Jankovic________	1
                			                	0		                	0
                			                	0		                	0
Points          	2		                	6		                	3
Bonus Validation	6		                	12		                	0
							
	01011		Monzanator______	15	TB	20	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Suarez Navarro__	1		A.Radwanska_____	2		Ivanovic________	3
                	0		Azarenka________	4		U.Radwanska_____	2
                	0		                	0		Hantuchova______	1
                			                	0		                	0
                			                	0		                	0
Points          	1		                	6		                	6
Bonus Validation	3		                	12		                	0
							
	01012		Buitenzorg______	18	TB	18	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Kvitova_________	2		Azarenka________	4		A.Radwanska_____	2
                	0		Vinci___________	2		Stosur__________	5
                	0		                	0		Suarez Navarro__	1
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	6		                	8
Bonus Validation	6		                	12		                	0
							
	01014		taloki__________	14	TB	21	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
A.Radwanska_____	2		Azarenka________	4		Kvitova_________	2
                	0		Cibulkova_______	0		Jankovic________	1
                	0		                	0		Suarez Navarro__	1
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	4		                	4
Bonus Validation	6		                	8		                	0
							
	01015		valac222________	18	TB	19	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Kvitova_________	2		Vinci___________	2		Azarenka________	4
                	0		Jankovic________	1		A.Radwanska_____	2
                	0		                	0		Kuznetsova______	0
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	3		                	6
Bonus Validation	6		                	6		                	6
							
	02016		goOudinUSA______	16	TB	25	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Lepchenko_______	0		Jankovic________	1		Azarenka________	4
                	0		Ivanovic________	3		A.Radwanska_____	2
                	0		                	0		Kvitova_________	2
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	0		                	4		                	8
Bonus Validation	0		                	8		                	8
							
	02017		tina110_________	12	TB	18	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Azarenka________	4		A.Radwanska_____	2		Jankovic________	1
                	0		Kvitova_________	2		Ivanovic________	3
                	0		                	0		Vinci___________	2
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	4		                	4		                	6
Bonus Validation	12		                	0		                	0
							
	02018		Meelis__________	26	TB	19	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Azarenka________	4		A.Radwanska_____	2		Kvitova_________	2
                	0		Stosur__________	5		Suarez Navarro__	1
                	0		                	0		Mattek-Sands____	1
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	4		                	7		                	4
Bonus Validation	12		                	14		                	0
							
	02019		tenniscreep_____	16	TB	21	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
A.Radwanska_____	2		Azarenka________	4		Kvitova_________	2
                	0		Jankovic________	1		Vinci___________	2
                	0		                	0		Ivanovic________	3
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	5		                	7
Bonus Validation	6		                	10		                	0
							
	02021		databol_________	26	TB	17	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Azarenka________	4		Kvitova_________	2		Suarez Navarro__	1
                	0		Stosur__________	5		Mattek-Sands____	1
                	0		                	0		A.Radwanska_____	2
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	4		                	7		                	4
Bonus Validation	12		                	14		                	0
							
	02023		tildeloltilde___	18	TB	20	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Kvitova_________	2		Azarenka________	4		Vinci___________	2
                	0		A.Radwanska_____	2		Lepchenko_______	0
                	0		                	0		Jankovic________	1
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	6		                	3
Bonus Validation	6		                	12		                	0
							
	02024		ArturJFC________	18	TB	N/A	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Kvitova_________	2		Azarenka________	4		Suarez Navarro__	1
                	0		A.Radwanska_____	2		Vinci___________	2
                	0		                	0		Kuznetsova______	0
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	6		                	3
Bonus Validation	6		                	12		                	0
							
	02025		Kylger__________	18	TB	18	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
A.Radwanska_____	2		Azarenka________	4		Vinci___________	2
                	0		Kvitova_________	2		Jankovic________	1
                	0		                	0		Ivanovic________	3
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	6		                	6
Bonus Validation	6		                	12		                	0
							
	02026		digor___________	21	TB	20	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
A.Radwanska_____	2		Vinci___________	2		Azarenka________	4
                	0		Jankovic________	1		Kvitova_________	2
                	0		                	0		Ivanovic________	3
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	3		                	9
Bonus Validation	6		                	6		                	9
							
	02027		Heinann_________	12	TB	20	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Azarenka________	4		A.Radwanska_____	2		Jankovic________	1
                	0		Vinci___________	2		Kvitova_________	2
                	0		                	0		Kuznetsova______	0
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	4		                	4		                	3
Bonus Validation	12		                	0		                	0
							
	02028		mariusz_pol_____	14	TB	18	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Kvitova_________	2		Azarenka________	4		A.Radwanska_____	2
                	0		Cibulkova_______	0		Suarez Navarro__	1
                	0		                	0		Kuznetsova______	0
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	4		                	3
Bonus Validation	6		                	8		                	0
							
	02029		Igorche_________	22	TB	21	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
Azarenka________	4		Ivanovic________	3		Jankovic________	1
                	0		A.Radwanska_____	2		Kvitova_________	2
                	0		                	0		Vinci___________	2
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	4		                	5		                	5
Bonus Validation	12		                	10		                	0
							
	02030		Drake1980_______	14	TB	N/A	
							
Hand 1          			Hand 2          			Hand 3          	
A.Radwanska_____	2		Azarenka________	4		Jankovic________	1
                	0		Cibulkova_______	0		Kvitova_________	2
                	0		                	0		Hantuchova______	1
                			                	0		                	0
                			                			                	0
Points          	2		                	4		                	4
Bonus Validation	6		                	8		                	0
Please check for errors. Picks will be updated throughout the weeks but final update may be late due to vacation.

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [New Players Welcome!]

Carlsbad Main Draw

[1] Azarenka vs BYE
[SR] Pennetta vs Schiavone
U.Radwanska vs Q
Burdette vs [6] Jankovic

[4] Vinci vs BYE
Puig vs Mattek-Sands
[WC] Kiick vs Q
Cibulkova vs [7] Ivanovic

[8]Suarez Navarro vs Q
Kuznetsova vs [WC] Razzano
Robson vs Morita
[3] Kvitova vs BYE

[5/WC] Stosur vs Lepchenko
Goerges vs Q
Hantuchova vs Paszek
[2] A.Radwanska vs BYE

Don't forget to specify which Radwanska you are picking.
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [New Players Welcome!]

Hall of Fame

Wins

1 PM & PR - tina110
1 GS - Drake1980, Chilenaitor, Heinann
1 PM - valac222, tenniscreep
1 P5 - OhNaNa, tildeloltilde
1 PR - Igorche, taloki, goOudinUSA

Finals

2 - valac222, tina110, Drake1980, coolfish1103, goOudinUSA, Buitenzorg
1 - SAISAI-GOAT, OhNaNa, taloki, digor, Igorche, DiRenan, Kylger, tenniscreep, tildeloltilde, Chilenaitor, Cheda 16.17

Weeks in #1

Drake1980 (dethrone by OhNaNa in Indian Wells)
- Week of Paris
- Week of Fed Cup
- Week of Doha
- Week of Dubai
- Week of Kuala Lumpur
- Weeks of Indian Wells

OhNaNa (dethrone by valac222 in Miami)
- Weeks of Miami

valac222 (dethrone by Drake1980 in Charleston)
- Week of Charleston

Drake1980 (dethrone by valac222 in Stuttgart)
- Week of Katowice
- Week of Fed Cup
- Week of Stuttgart

valac222 (dethrone by Drake1980 in Roma)
- Week of Madrid
- Week of Roma

Drake1980 (dethrone by Buitenzorg in Roland Garros)
- Week of Brussels
- Weeks of Roland Garros

Buitenzorg
- Week of Birmingham
- Week of Eastbourne
- Weeks of Wimbledon
- Week of Palermo
- Week of Bastad
- Week of Stanford

13 - Drake1980
7 - Buitenzorg
3 - valac222
2 - OhNaNa

Current
To be determined

# of Perfect Hands

1 - OhNaNa, goOudinUSA, Buitenzorg, anthonyqld, Chilenaitor
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

Hand 1
- A.Radwanska
Hand 2
- Azarenka
- Kvitova
Hand 3
- Vinci
- Kuznetsova
- Jankovic
Final
- 22 games
ALT
- Ivanovic
- Suarez Navarro
- Lepchenko
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

H1
Suarez Navarro

H2
Azarenka, A.Radwanska

H3
Ivanovic, U.Radwanska, Hantuchova

FINAL: 20 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

Hand 1
Petra Kvitova

Hand 2
Victoria Azarenka
Roberta Vinci

Hand 3
Agnieszka Radwanska
Samantha Stosur
Carla Suarez Navarro

Alternatives
Ana Ivanovic
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Daniela Hantuchova

Final TB 18 Games
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

Hand 1
Petra Kvitova

Hand 2
Victoria Azarenka
Roberta Vinci

Hand 3
Agnieszka Radwanska
Samantha Stosur
Carla Suarez Navarro

Alternatives
Ana Ivanovic
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Daniela Hantuchova

Final TB 18 Games
sorry change to:

Hand 1
Petra Kvitova

Hand 2
Victoria Azarenka
Carla Suarez Navarro

Hand 3
Agnieszka Radwanska
Roberta Vinci
Samantha Stosur

Alternatives
Ana Ivanovic
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Daniela Hantuchova

Final TB 18 Games
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

H1
A. Radwanska

H2
Azarenka, Cibulkova

H3
Kvitova, Jankovic, Suarez Navarro

ALTs

Hantuchova, Ivanovic, Lepchenko

FINAL TB: 21 games.
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

Kvitova
Vinci,Jankovic
Azarenka,Aradwanska;Kuznetsova

Alt Uradwanska
19 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

Hand 1
- Lepchenko
Hand 2
- Jankovic
- Ivanovic
Hand 3
- Azarenka
- A.Radwanska
- Kvitova
Final
- 25 games
ALT
- Mattek-Sands
- Razzano
- Goerges
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

Hand 1

Azarenka

Hand 2

A. Radwanska
Kvitova

Hand 3

Ivanovic
Jankovic
Vinci

Alts:

Goerges
Robson
Kuznetsova

Final

18 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

Hand 1: Azarenka

Hand 2: A.Radwanska, Stosur

Hand 3: Kvitova, Suarez Navarro, Mattek-Sands

Alternates: Robson, Hantuchova, U.Radwanska

Final: 19 games
 

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Re: Three Hands #13 - Carlsbad [Main Draw Updated!]

Hand 1:

A.Radwanska

Hand 2:

Azarenka
Jankovic
Suareza Navarro

Hand 3:

Kvitova
Vinci
Ivanovic

Back-up: Stosur, Cibulkova, Kuznetsova

TB: 21 games
 
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