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What's best for the tour where Anna is concerned?

  • Anna should retire. She's become a sideshow.

    Votes: 25 30.5%
  • Anna wins 1 small tournament her whole career. A Tier III or lower.

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • Anna wins < 10 medium sized tournaments. Maebe one Tier I

    Votes: 9 11.0%
  • Anna wins 10+ tournaments, but no GS

    Votes: 9 11.0%
  • Anna wins at least one GS title.

    Votes: 36 43.9%
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... what?

I personally don't feel Anna's current winlessness is all that good for the tour. OTOH, Would we ever hear about Amelie or Justine or Kim if Anna was a top ten player? (And won sometournaments, I mean.) And if Anna became #1 or won a GS title, the hype machine would go berserk. We might still get Venus and Jenn news, but I think the media would even stop following Martina.

What's best for the TOUR, where Anna's career is concerned? (Not Anna herself. Anna should definitely hang around. I'm discussing the near-term future of tennis.
 

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What's best for Anna vs what's best for the WTA?

WTA has been accused of promoting Anna's non-tennis assets as much as any of the media. What's that guy's name, Bart McGuire, I've heard him make noises to the effect of 'beautiful girls but butts on seats' which is of course true, but WTA have to expect that those beautiful girls will fulfill some other kind of criteria: ie winning events.

In monetary terms the WTA would like Anna have the results that Martina gets (it got the next best thing in Martina with the Sanex deal). You have a good point about possible success for Anna overshadowing other winners like Amelie and Justine.
However, Amelie and Justine's successes overshadow those of Shaughnessy, Farina Elia, and even further down the food chain. This will always happen.

In tennis terms the WTA doesn't need Anna to do diddly-squat 'cause there are plenty of fine fine tennis players. That's the freakshow element covered. There's still many many column inches coming out of the fact that Anna hasn't won anything. This isn't good publicity for the WTA, but then there is the adage that all publicity is good publicity.

Not sure if I've veered off-topic or not.
 

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Btw I voted for Anna to win 10+ titles but no GS.

Why? I'd love to see Anna win a GS, but let's take it this way. I've already seen one poster describe what Anna has done since her comeback as "amazing". A defeat to Anna Smashnova, Anne Kremer and every Top Ten player she's faced (hoping she can pull it out against Venus though!) is "amazing". I don't think so. Steady, solid, workmanlike, erratic all spring to mind. Amazing? No.

The hyperbole would be too much. If she wins 1+ GS then she deserves everything that she gets (praise wise I mean).
 

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ouch! the annamosity is so thick in this thread i cut myself trying to reply to it
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for the near-term future of tennis? winning a slam would be nice. i think anna's good for tennis already right now. she's generated so much interest not only for herself but also for the game that it's great. but if she wins a slam then even better


btw, anna will win a slam ;) at least that way my vote gets fulfilled...
 

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Anna wins at least one GS title.
5 people voted for this choice ... pffff!! 5 !! That's a bit optimistic me thinks ...
 

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VBN, this isn't a poll about what's realistic, but what's best for WTA if i'm correct. And what if i want to believe Anna can win a slam?

Look at it how you want, but Anna made from tennis a popular sport, and i mean popular concerning the masses. Yesterday i was at the antwerp tourni and it was the first day there weren't many seats left, why? Cos anna played. That was the only reason.

Is that positive for the WTA? Of course! Yes, some other players will be overshadowed by Anna's 'off court' success, but that's how life is.

Out of all those peops who started following tennis cos of Anna, a lot of them will learn to appreciate more than just anna's looks, and will start to get more into tennis and the other players.

Look at all these youngsters who start to take tennis lessons, just cos they wanna be a star like their fave Anna.

People who don't think this is something good for tennis are rather blinded. Probably jealous of Anna's success?

It all comes down to this. Real tennisfans will always find the news and stories about their faves, whether those players are successful or not. And Anna makes people who would never follow tennis, get into our fave sport, and that can only be positive.

My alltime fave is Daphne Vandezande, a belgian player who never got into the top 150 or so, and yet i managed to find info about her lol. So if you really want, you can always find the info you want about whoever your fave is. Do you follow your fave because you like her, or because you want everyone to like her?
 

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Carot has a lot of good points :)

All I have to say is this... the tour will be better off if Anna does NOT retire and keep continuing playing for about another 10 years.

The tour will certainly be worse off if Anna retires NOW. You have no idea how hard it will be for some tournament directors in terms of promotions and ticket sales etc... The lower tier they are, the worse off they'll be (a good example is Auckland like early in the year). And certainly by NO MEANS is she a sideshow! :mad:
 

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I've always felt that Anna should just go away. I think carot makes good arguments for Anna, especially about her bringing new fans into the sport. But still, I remain skeptical.

Is she bringing in the right kind of fans?

I would imagine that most of her fans are testorone-laden, young men who have only one thing on their mind. Those fellows are usually rowdy and don't have a clue about the rules of the game nor do they understand spectator etiquette. They'll leave the match (after disrupting it for everyone else) and then go home to search the TV channels looking for the Doritos girl.
 

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I would imagine that most of her fans are testorone-laden, young men who have only one thing on their mind. Those fellows are usually rowdy and don't have a clue about the rules of the game nor do they understand spectator etiquette. They'll leave the match (after disrupting it for everyone else) and then go home to search the TV channels looking for the Doritos girl.
Anna is one of my favs... and i sure ain't that bad.. i think. :p

Ofcourse the tour would be worse if Anna left. She is one of the main attractions globally, including the top gunners such as the Williams', Hingis, Davenport ect.

Here in Britain tennis is not such a popular sport, excpet when Wimbledon comes around. The only players you can gaurentee that the majority of the ordianary public will know is the likes of Kournikova, Williams, for any of these player to go would just make the WTA even less popular and less known than it is now.

:rolleyes:
 

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Somebody's gotta explain to me how Anna retiring would HELP the tour.
Fewer tiockets would be sold.
TV ratings would be lower.
Fewer column inches would appear in newspapers.
Fewer photographers would be around.

All this is good?

As for, 'the wrong kind of fans', hey, as long as they're this side of Indian Wells last year, or the crowd in the 99 RG final, I'm down with 'em. I still think if Anna wins a Slam we're all going to have to hide, but I'd like her around for another ten years or so. But she's really gotta f*ckin' WIN something, just to shut these people up!
 

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The amount of bashing Anna gets from a media that is supposed to be relatively neutral is absurd. As I was driving home, I heard a local radio sports show host ridiculing the attention Anna gets, then punctuating his opinion by pointing out that she lost to Venus.

How many players get ridiculed in the media for losing to Venus?
 

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Bright Red said:
I've always felt that Anna should just go away. I think carot makes good arguments for Anna, especially about her bringing new fans into the sport. But still, I remain skeptical.

Is she bringing in the right kind of fans?

I would imagine that most of her fans are testorone-laden, young men who have only one thing on their mind. Those fellows are usually rowdy and don't have a clue about the rules of the game nor do they understand spectator etiquette. They'll leave the match (after disrupting it for everyone else) and then go home to search the TV channels looking for the Doritos girl.
Bright Red, if Anna can become the world's #8 ranked player as a teenager, who has the right to tell her to go away?
 

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I agree to disposablehero. This arguement about Anna should go away from tennis is crazy, tennis benefit from having Anna also the vice versa. If Anna is not playing tennis and I mean good tennis, she will not be as famous as now, there are many many more gals more beautiful and had a more media-attracted face and body than Anna. So why do people tell her to go away when she is obviously an world class sportswomen?
 

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How TV rating will be lower if Anna doesn't reach the rounds that TV shows???:rolleyes:

She is more succesfull for her model career than her tennis career, and that's sad:eek:
 

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She is more succesfull for her model career than her tennis career, and that's sad:eek: [/B]
Oh really.. so can you just give me a run down on this successful modelling career Anna has???

Details please....
 

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Yeah.. becuase she is not a fu*king model.. so I think it is going to be very hard to give me a run down of her career..

Apart form Modeling some Omega watches (martina does the same thing aswell).. there has not been anything and before you say it, she does not model berlie bras either.. She might have been at a launch for them at Eastbourne in 2000 and her face on a bill board but she does not get on the cat walk and model them..
Sure she has done photo shoot's for magazines and now her yearly calendar.. but so have other players (magazine covers) so if you are assuming modeling is that.. then you should start calling all the other players models aswell..
 

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Yes, But other players 'ALL' won a TITLE or more.
Anna HASN'T
Others HAVE
Anna HASN'T, NO TITLE, NONE, ZERO, that's why people are always on her case.
 

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How TV rating will be lower if Anna doesn't reach the rounds that TV shows???:rolleyes:
Hadn't thought about it like that, LucasArg. But good point. She brings rowdy fans for a day. And I for one, have never seen her on TV (playing tennis, that is). Do people really think that she's bringing a lot of interest to the sport. Her benefit to the sport is marginal at best.

I concede that there maybe a lot of young Russians who are inspired by Anna. That might be good--provided they don't think they have to be blonde and blue-eyed to succeed at the sport. But for many of the non-Russian fans, I think interest in the sport takes a back seat to drooling over Anna's looks. That type of fan most likely won't expand his/her interest in the sport and pick up new faves unless, of course, the new fave is also drool material. The WTA doesn't need that.

DH, I have never had the opportunity to tell Anna to go away. She'd probably slap me, and I'd have to call up one of my peeps to open a can of w.a. on her.
 

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Yes, But other players 'ALL' won a TITLE or more.
Anna HASN'T
Others HAVE
Anna HASN'T, NO TITLE, NONE, ZERO, that's why people are always on her case.
Oh, they have ALL won titles have they...
Oh Anna is the only one who has not won a title in the history of the WTA tour :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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