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Bump. Just finished the whole series. Enjoyed s2 the most. Things really got started from ep4 and culminated with e7-e8 as the standout episodes of the season.
I liked the ship episode the most from s3. I didn't really enjoy Kevin's "purgatory" mission as much in s3 as I did in s2. They couldn't have trumped it anyways. I enjoyed the finale too, I think it gave closure, and I believe it was sincere, contrary to some other beliefs from this thread.


Has anyone else seen this show during past years?
 

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I miss this show. I’ve never been so excited and moved by a show since it finished.
I may start rewatching soon
 

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Indie Wire names Leftovers best show of the decade:

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/06/best-tv-shows-decade-2010-2019-netflix-hbo-1202148573/4/?fbclid=IwAR0JwccCpVykW8mDJ6SpFGw19T322hAhgosF8r-Y5l2YpeACiKAPElTFQ1U


1. “The Leftovers” (HBO, 2014-2017)




Some shows play it safe and some shows swing for the fences. And then there’s HBO’s “The Leftovers,” which takes the ball, loads it into a contraption hellbent on launching it into another dimension, and then does just that. On a lot of levels, the series defies definition, while also being exactly what you’d expect. The series begins with a global event causing the disappearance of 2 percent of the world’s population and forcing the other 98 percent to figure out how to keep living. Do you have questions? So does the series. So many questions. And unlike co-creator Damon Lindelof’s previous series “Lost,” “The Leftovers” has a lack of answers built into its very DNA. Who are we? Where do we go when we die? Where did people go when they disappeared? Am I a good person? Are you? Does it matter? Life has no answers to those questions and neither does “The Leftovers.” And by abandoning that fruitless search for answers, the series gives itself over to the exploration of the questions and the people asking them. With too many unimpeachable performances to count, including Justin Theroux, Carrie Coon, Christopher Eccleston, and Ann Dowd, the show throws itself whole-heartedly into every exploration, whether that’s a doomsday cult or an orgy cruise revolving around an old lion or an exodus from the land of the undead or an arc dedicated to “Perfect Strangers” star Mark Linn-Baker. Everything is fair game. Everything is beautiful. “The Leftovers” knows that the miracle of life is that it could crush us at any moment. And yet we live on.—LH
 

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Another Leftovers fan here. So many great characters.

Interesting omission from RS's list: Mad Men failed to crack the top 50??
 

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I never watched Leftovers so I will add that to my watchlist.

Damages is overlooked again I see. Such a brilliant show with Glenn Close, Rose Byrne and many others like Željko Ivanek and Marcia Gay.

And I miss some other superbe shows on that list. The Bridge (Bron/Broen), Borgen, Unforgotten, The Fall, The Missing, Vera, Broadchurch, Luther, The Crown, Archer..
And I'm sure Game Of Thrones would have been higher on the list if it wasn't for that horrible last season.
 

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Another Leftovers fan here. So many great characters.

Interesting omission from RS's list: Mad Men failed to crack the top 50??

Unpopular opinion. It was such an overrated show, from all the ''ohhs and ahhs'' I expected something much better, yeah ... there were some interesting characters but what's the point in having them if you forget about these characters for almost whole season? I mean Tom Garvey or Meg (I love Liv Taylor so it was so dissapointing to have her so surprisingly little on the show). Where were theyy in the S3?! I mean they were like just a little more than cameo role characters


Also full of filler inside the episodes, and side-plots that added to nothing or amounted to nothing after sparking up my hope & excitation (like that thing with the "saviour" to come and all that buzz around it) or that thing with the veil and Nora. And I don't even mean the ending as I half-expected that. For me 7/10. Season 2: 8+/10 (albeit still a lot of filler, the first 4 episodes were basically one ovedrawn introduction). Hardly any actual pay-offs were in it that would kept me glued throughout the Leftovers.

If you want some really good show, a mind-blowing one with a minimal amount of filler, and lots of deep, existential thoughts that will haunt your head after and throughout watching that does not get as much fame than I recommend you German Netflix show called Dark (but please with no dub).
 

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Unpopular opinion. It was such an overrated show, from all the ''ohhs and ahhs'' I expected something much better, yeah ... there were some interesting characters but what's the point in having them if you forget about these characters for almost whole season? I mean Tom Garvey or Meg (I love Liv Taylor so it was so dissapointing to have her so surprisingly little on the show). Where were theyy in the S3?! I mean they were like just a little more than cameo role characters


Also full of filler inside the episodes, and side-plots that added to nothing or amounted to nothing after sparking up my hope & excitation (like that thing with the "saviour" to come and all that buzz around it) or that thing with the veil and Nora. And I don't even mean the ending as I half-expected that. For me 7/10. Season 2: 8+/10 (albeit still a lot of filler, the first 4 episodes were basically one ovedrawn introduction). Hardly any actual pay-offs were in it that would kept me glued throughout the Leftovers.

If you want some really good show, a mind-blowing one with a minimal amount of filler, and lots of deep, existential thoughts that will haunt your head after and throughout watching that does not get as much fame than I recommend you German Netflix show called Dark (but please with no dub).
Yes, unfortunately it was an unpopular show, people are sheep what are you going to do? But like yourself, it was enough for me to stay glued until the end. My favorite characters were Nora, Patty, Kevin, and the preacher. I also liked the healer in the first season, that whole arc, and really all of the characters shown as an ensemble. There were several arcs throughout the span of the series, and they were all kind of far out, and not having read the book beforehand (probably a good thing), I thought it was pretty fresh. I liked Liv Tyler's role, and it would have been nice to see more of her. But, that was definitely a supporting role and I thought the meeker side of her was more intriguing than when she went full blown terrorist. And what about secret agent Kevin against his nemesis Patty? You critique the show without a single mention of Patty, which means you and I saw a completely different show. The whole idea of the guilty remnant is brilliant.

I will say that I thought the second season was the best, followed by the first season, followed by the third season. I appreciated the ending though. But yeah, not for everyone! :D

I started watching Dark but didn't make it past the first episode. Are you saying it gets better?
 

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Yes, unfortunately it was an unpopular show, people are sheep what are you going to do? But like yourself, it was enough for me to stay glued until the end. My favorite characters were Nora, Patty, Kevin, and the preacher. I also liked the healer in the first season, that whole arc, and really all of the characters shown as an ensemble. There were several arcs throughout the span of the series, and they were all kind of far out, and not having read the book beforehand (probably a good thing), I thought it was pretty fresh. I liked Liv Tyler's role, and it would have been nice to see more of her. But, that was definitely a supporting role and I thought the meeker side of her was more intriguing than when she went full blown terrorist. And what about secret agent Kevin against his nemesis Patty? You critique the show without a single mention of Patty, which means you and I saw a completely different show. The whole idea of the guilty remnant is brilliant.

I will say that I thought the second season was the best, followed by the first season, followed by the third season. I appreciated the ending though. But yeah, not for everyone! :D

I started watching Dark but didn't make it past the first episode. Are you saying it gets better?

Obviously I highly recommend you Dark as it is an absolute masterpiece and mind-fuck to boot! You have to continue!
 

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Tom Perrotta’s ‘The Leftovers’ imagined 2 percent of the population disappearing. That could be our reality.

Like some Beltway Dr. Faust, Donald Trump probably imagines he’s making a deal with Death: “Give me a revived economy before the election,” he thinks, “and I’ll hand over a sliver of the U.S. population.”

Macabre as that equation is, it can be calculated with some degree of predictability based on economic data and epidemiological trends.

But Death is just the frontman in these negotiations over how soon we should stop sheltering in place to slow the novel coronavirus. The real player here is Grief. And it’s not a fair or predictable opponent. The president’s plan to get the United States “raring to go by Easter,” as he said, risks unleashing a wave of sorrow. We could wake up this spring and discover that it’s mourning again in America.

Ironically, dozens of apocalyptic novels may have misled us about what lies ahead. Stories like Stephen King’s “The Stand” and Cormac McCarthy’s “The Road” have infected our collective consciousness with fevered excesses of one kind or another. For instance, Emily St. John Mandel’s “Station Eleven” imagines that a flu kills off 99 percent of the world’s population. In Justin Cronin’s terrifying vampire novel “The Passage,” only a tiny fraction of humanity survives a government-created virus.

But in real life, death rates from the coronavirus pandemic are not predicted to approach anything near such fictional decimation. And given those end of days visions, President Trump’s dismissive attitude about the coronavirus seems, comparatively, reasonable, almost comforting. Republicans are beginning to argue, correctly, that we’ll lose “only” a percent or two. And as Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick recently suggested, the coronavirus victims will be mostly older people, anyhow.

It’s as though these literary nightmares of complete annihilation have softened us up to accept the possibility of “just” a few million deaths.

About 10 years ago, in the wake of 9/11, the novelist Tom Perrotta imagined an apocalypse that is strangely close to what the president is proposing.

“The Leftovers” is the flip side of the usual apocalyptic novel. It begins three years after 2 percent of the world population has vanished. The remaining 98 percent are untouched and physically healthy — but not “raring to go by Easter.” Or by New Year’s. Or even the year after that.

Speaking from his home outside of Boston, Perrotta says he was startled by some people’s scornful response to the premise of “The Leftovers.” “Two percent?” they said. “That’s nothing.”
But that would be 6.5 million Americans, and it could soon be this administration’s economic plan for the United States.

The horror of even contemplating a loss of that magnitude is staggering. “I look out my window, and it’s a beautiful day, and the water comes out of the faucet when I turn it on, and my car works,” Perrotta says. “The infrastructure of the world is intact, but there is this feeling of dread and grief that makes it feel entirely different than what it did a month ago. I wake up and as soon as I go downstairs and come in contact with any information, this heaviness just comes over me that I carry through the whole day. And I think, you know, two percent is a lot.”

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As he suggested in “The Leftovers,” which was later adapted into an HBO series, Perrotta doubts anybody would survive such a “minor” apocalypse unscathed. “It may not be somebody in your first ring of acquaintances,” he says, “but it’ll be someone in the second and maybe someone right next to you. One of the things it does is really make you aware of just how connected we are.”

The tenacity of mourning is something Perrotta learned from his characters in “The Leftovers.” “Even years after the events,” he says, “they were trying to figure out how to process this grief. And I think there is a kind of collective grief that is awaiting us. Right now, we’re just in the dread phase. But the grief part is a little bit down the road.”

Trump continues to imagine that he can inure the country to the unknown effects of the coronavirus through a series of misleading comparisons. “We lose thousands and thousands of people to the flu. We don’t turn the country off,” he said. “We lose much more than that to automobile accidents.”

But the sudden loss of several million Americans would be nothing like those common killers. In “The Leftovers” the survivors’ unstaunched sadness gives rise to a host of psychological disorders and a disruptive cult called “the Guilty Remnant.” Perrotta notes that the United States lost far fewer citizens in the Vietnam War, but “the whole country was shaken to its core” by that cataclysm of bereavement and rage. Likewise, the long period of lamentation after the Civil War gave rise to a surge of spiritualism that ran counter to the country’s quickly evolving knowledge of science and medicine. “When there is a big upheaval like this,” Perrotta says, “there will be years of enormous, unpredictable social reaction.”

Rationalizing the deaths of millions of Americans is obscene. But imagining that the survivors’ anguish can be written off as a cost of doing business is pure folly.

Ron Charles writes about books for The Washington Post and hosts TotallyHipVideoBookReview.com.
 

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Looks like Trump has even managed to infiltrate The Leftovers thread.
 
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