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What is Tennis Tipping?

In the game, participants pick the winners of all main draw matches and are placed in a knock-out system. That means each participant plays a different participant and whoever predicted the winner of most matches correctly, moves on to the next round. The same applies for doubles, but you're in a team format and your scores are combined.

Note:
- In case of a tie, a tie-breaker will decide who moves on to the next round.
Tie-break method: http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=13611765&postcount=1

- In case a player (i.e. the actual WTA Player) retires in a match, this match will not be counted. If players are replaced by a lucky loser after the start of Tennis Tipping, these matches will be cancelled.

Some other rules:

*Tournament thread opening:

1week prior to the begining of the tournament.

*Draw Sizes:

Tournaments should have a draw which has the same size as the real one. Qualifying draws should have room for 32 players except in weeks where there are 3 WTA tournaments. In Those weeks the qualifying draws should have room for 16 players. Any exception to this rule should be decided by the board members.

*Standard First Page:

Check thread: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=362156

*Tournament Managers:

Now that we have many players, managers should start their “managing career” with a low tiered tournament. Only High-profiled managers will run slams.

*Tournament Points:

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Tier.	                Won             Final   Semi     QF     R16      R32     R64    R128    QLFR      Q3     Q2     Q1 										
												
Grand Slam (128)	2.000	        1.400   900,00	500,00	280,00	160,00	100,00	5,00	60,00	50,00	40,00	2,00
Tour Championship (16)												
Premier Mandatory (96) 	1.000,00	700,00	450,00	250,00	140,00	80,00	50,00	5,00	30,00	..--..	20,00	1,00
Premier Mandatory (64) 	1.000,00	700,00	450,00	250,00	140,00	80,00	5,00	..--..	30,00	..--..	20,00	1,00
Premier 5	          900,00	620,00	395,00	225,00	125,00	70,00	1,00	..--..	30,00	..--..	20,00	1,00
Premier (56)	          470,00	320,00	200,00	120,00	60,00	40,00	1,00	..--..	12,00	..--..	8,00	1,00
Premier (32)	          470,00	320,00	200,00	120,00	60,00	1,00	..--..	..--..	20,00	12,00	8,00	1,00
International (56)	  280,00	200,00	130,00	70,00	30,00	15,00	1,00	..--..	10,00	..--..	6,00	1,00
International (32)	  280,00	200,00	130,00	70,00	30,00	1,00	..--..	..--..	16,00	10,00	6,00	1,00
CH (Any)                  150,00	110,00	80,00	40,00	20,00	1/10(64D)1,00    	6,00	4,00	1,00	..--..

*Wild Cards:

Not used in the 2010 season.

*Determining Lucky Losers:

In the end of the final qualifying round managers should post a list of the players who have the higher scores in that round (If the score is the same you should use the TB System to order the players). Those are the first players to be called in case someone doesn’t send his/her picks.

*Deadline for Picks


Set by manager, time of first match. No more of "first point played." Makes it easier for everyone involved.

*Challengers

Top 30 players in the singles entry rankings can't play them, except during the Fed Cup and Grand Slam second weeks and when there are no regular WTA tournaments played.


*Number of commitments
Min. number of commitments for a tournament to be run is 16 players/8 teams.

*Fed Cup:

It will be brought back and we shall decide about it in the next meeting.

*SR/TB:

You CAN’T send a SR in your TB different from the SR you decided to send first.
If you send a SR different from your TB (Ex: 2-0 6-3 4-6 7-6) that pick will be counted but the SR/TB won’t.

*CB/”Looking Forwards”:

In Case everything is tied after the use of the TB’s use tournament Countback (CB) as a manner of untying things. If, after the use of CB everything is still tied make players send for the next round and the one with the best picks will win.

*Deadlines

Singles commitment deadline will be 3pm local time the day before qualifying begins.

*Missing Someone's Commitment
In the case that you miss someone's commitment while managing a tournament he/she will be topping the Alt or LL lists.

*Entry Lists/What rankings?
For doing entry lists the last posted rankings will be used.

*Number of Events Per week
One can only play one event per week which includes (giving) walkovers or being replaced by an ALT.

3 Month + 100 posts Rule
One can only play this game if he has created an account in this forum atleast 3 months ago AND has atleast 100 posts.

*Sendind picks for someone else

Not allowed.

*Late Entries

Should be sorted according to the commitment order.

*Use of Alternates/Lucky Losers
If more spots than alternates, highest ranked players receive byes. Place in ranking order.

*Qualifying for Bali
Highest ranked players that have won an international tournament and have not qualified for Doha.

*Qualifying for Doha
Highest ranked players/teams determined by a ranking composed by the best 16 results that the players/teams have done throughout the year. Top 8 players and Top 8 teams shall qualify.

*Sending Picks
you MUST send picks to the manager in order for them to count. if for some reason you cannot send to the manager, then send to the emergency tt board email address.

if you attempt to send picks to the manager and the pm fails, then your picks will count as long as you can provide evidence that the picks were sent in time. if you cannot, then such picks will not count.

if you send to your doubles partner, but forget to send to the manager, these picks will NOT count.
 

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This was the result of a small meeting me and the rest of the board had today :)

The first one of the off-season i'm sure. :)
Denijs couldn't be present but i'm sure he'll give his opinions too

I hope you like the compelling of the rules in one post.

Some more will be added after the other meeting/s
 

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The next meeting will happen when we have already sufficient opinions in the Changes for 2009 thread ;)
 

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In Case everything is tied after the use of the TB’s use tournament Countback (CB) as a manner of untying things. If, after the use of CB everything is still tied make players send for the next round and the one with the best picks will win.
You mean in case everything is tied after the use of TB's and SR's?
 

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Yeah so if there are 8 or more matches in the OOP we use TB's first and if it's still tied shouldn't we then use SRs first before CB?
we don't use SR's with 8 or more matches right?

I'm not understanding your question...
 

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first I see that I lost in both - singles and doubles - in Tokyo and just now I discovered that all the scores were wrong and in fact I won but I didn't know that so I did not send the picks...

it's just not fair at all!!!!!

I could have won it and now I lose....

the tournament should be really canceled :rolleyes:
 

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And just a question, 8 first teams in race will qualify for YEC, but what about Bali Doubles?? Thanks a lot
 

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Deadlines will have a formal time now.

Singles commitment deadline will be 3pm local time the day before qualifying begins.

For example, in Stuttgart, qualifying began on Sunday. Therefore, the deadline will be 3pm local time (Stuttgart time) on Saturday. Doubles deadline will be the next day.

This will be used for all tournaments.
 

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Please make it official that once draws are up, withdrawals (in order to play somewhere else) shouldn't be allowed. For me it is logical but it doesn't sound like it is for a few others. It has happened not long ago and there's a bunch of players currently withdrawing from Birmingham due to rain delays.
 

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Also in the rules should be something about doubles commitments. Is it necessary for a player to confirm the doubles team or not to get in the draw? If no, is it necessary for the player who did not confirm to have entered the singles draw before the deadline has passed to get into the draw?
 

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Please make it official that once draws are up, withdrawals (in order to play somewhere else) shouldn't be allowed. For me it is logical but it doesn't sound like it is for a few others. It has happened not long ago and there's a bunch of players currently withdrawing from Birmingham due to rain delays.
Unless other board members disagree, I would say this should certainly be pout in concrete. In my opinion, you may not withdraw once the draws are up to play elsewhere. Withdraw if you want by not sending picks, but you certainly shouldn't be able to enter another tournament.

Also in the rules should be something about doubles commitments. Is it necessary for a player to confirm the doubles team or not to get in the draw? If no, is it necessary for the player who did not confirm to have entered the singles draw before the deadline has passed to get into the draw?
It is not necessary which is why there is no rule for it.

In my opinion, the person doesn't have to be in the singles draw either in order to get into the doubles draw....but people may disagree with that.
 

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It is not necessary which is why there is no rule for it.

In my opinion, the person doesn't have to be in the singles draw either in order to get into the doubles draw....but people may disagree with that.
In that case it'll mean the chance of (unnecessary) walkovers or people not sending picks in doubles MD rises. I don't think its that much trouble to commit a doubles team. If somebody doesnt commit at all I'd rather give a chance to a lower ranked doubles pair. If somebody does commit for singles but not doubles... that's fine with me.

Anyway, something should be in the rules about this because it caused trouble again, and that's not the first time. :)
 

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hopefully there would be a rule for the two suggestions stated above.
tt birmingham was hell already with those rain delays and now i have two doubles teams who should be in the md but arent coz their partners didnt place any commitments in the thread:sad:
and now dunno what to do with the last two people for md if i have to move them to qualifying the last two people in the qualifying would be pushed as alternates:tears:
 
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