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I know there are pics of Greta smiling, rare as they are :eek:h:. I wish someone would work off one of those. 90% of depictions of Greta she looks sullen and creepy like those twin girls in The Shining. If you're really going to use her image to propagandize, why not make it a nice image? :shrug:
OMG, you are right with that. :SNE:
 

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I know there are pics of Greta smiling, rare as they are :eek:h:. I wish someone would work off one of those. 90% of depictions of Greta she looks sullen and creepy like those twin girls in The Shining. If you're really going to use her image to propagandize, why not make it a nice image? :shrug:
It would jeopardize the alleged authenticity of her message. Obviously she's a puppet but she tries to sell herself as the "voice of the people". Teenagers don't use a PR speciallist to prove their under no influence of the adults because it actually proves the opposite. It would wreck her message - or anyone who wants to use her image. The sailing boat campaign was a fraud already given the spare engine installed, does she need more controversy anymore? :p
 

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Blast from the past:

I browsed through my CD collection and saw this ad in the booklet of the Mark Whitfield album "The Marksman".

"We only have 10 years to save the planet. It starts with you and it's easy"

That was in ... 1990 :)
 

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welcome back Greta !
 

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She's doing amazing!!! All the haters here are above 40 years of age :lol:
Because 40year olds remember the global warming scare with similar fixed speeches made from clueless young girls back in the 90s. If you are a bit older you can remember the "world is freezing scare". Her handlers and parents are awful people and that girl is not qualified to discuss a complex issue as such.
 

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Because 40year olds remember the global warming scare with similar fixed speeches made from clueless young girls back in the 90s. If you are a bit older you can remember the "world is freezing scare". Her handlers and parents are awful people and that girl is not qualified to discuss a complex issue as such.
The world is in this dire state exactly because those girls from the 90s have been ignored and forgotten.
 

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Because 40year olds remember the global warming scare with similar fixed speeches made from clueless young girls back in the 90s. If you are a bit older you can remember the "world is freezing scare". Her handlers and parents are awful people and that girl is not qualified to discuss a complex issue as such.
I'm 51 yours old and I don't remember "new ice age" as a serious societal discussion. It was more of a fringe science theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

On the other hand, I remember this:

- There was a massively discussed "scare" about dying trees in Europe in the 1980's ("Waldsterben" in german). This was fought by reducing the sulfur dioxide emissions by coal plants. But there may have been other causes, and it isn't over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_dieback

Around the same time, catalytic converters were made mandatory for new cars. There was massive opposition from the car industry and part of the consumers who thought filtering emissions was unnecessary, which would seem insane from today's perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter

- In the 1980's, there was also a public scare about the depletion of the ozon layer. This development with massive consequences for humanity was successfully contained by banning the emission of chlorofluorocarbons worldwide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion

So these were public scares that were productive, because they lead to necessary changes in cutting air pollution. With global warming due to CO2 emissions, it would need the same change of attitude.
 

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I'm 51 yours old and I don't remember "new ice age" as a serious societal discussion. It was more of a fringe science theory:
The fact of the matter is that scared tactics are used historically to control and manipulate the masses. That does not mean that climate change is not real but when the world and media gives empaphis to the words of an undecuated, arrogant, spoiled and entitled angry teenage highschool dropout instead of focusing on the hard evidence and actual scientists, then you can be positively accurate that the girl is clearly used to manipulate the public's consesus on a complicated matter by just appealing to the emotion of the people. A girl screaming that the world is gonna end when she doesn't know what she is talking about inspires people. A girl saying that we stole her childhood when she decided to skip school (yets claims that she knows exactly what should be done) travels the world, meet world leaders and even affect policies is inspiring people and it just creates more climate zealots. No one from the people that don't buy to this climate change hysteria want to pollute and we all want a better environment for us and our children, but you just cannot argue with fanatics and find solutions, and that is just what Greta and the media are creating, climate change fanatics that you just cannot argue with.
 

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The fact of the matter is that scared tactics are used historically to control and manipulate the masses. That does not mean that climate change is not real but when the world and media gives empaphis to the words of an undecuated, arrogant, spoiled and entitled angry teenage highschool dropout instead of focusing on the hard evidence and actual scientists, then you can be positively accurate that the girl is clearly used to manipulate the public's consesus on a complicated matter by just appealing to the emotion of the people. A girl screaming that the world is gonna end when she doesn't know what she is talking about inspires people. A girl saying that we stole her childhood when she decided to skip school (yets claims that she knows exactly what should be done) travels the world, meet world leaders and even affect policies is inspiring people and it just creates more climate zealots. No one from the people that don't buy to this climate change hysteria want to pollute and we all want a better environment for us and our children, but you just cannot argue with fanatics and find solutions, and that is just what Greta and the media are creating, climate change fanatics that you just cannot argue with.
Is she saying something that differs from the actual consensus from climate scientists?

The hard evidence and actual scientists are just not exciting/entertaining enough for most people, it seems. So, if by spicing up their message she's making people listen to it, then I think that's fantastic.
 

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Is she saying something that differs from the actual consensus from climate scientists?

The hard evidence and actual scientists are just not exciting/entertaining enough for most people, it seems. So, if by spicing up their message she's making people listen to it, then I think that's fantastic.
 

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This is the speech Greta Thunberg delivered to the UN Climate Action summit in New York on Monday.
 

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Is she saying something that differs from the actual consensus from climate scientists?

The hard evidence and actual scientists are just not exciting/entertaining enough for most people, it seems. So, if by spicing up their message she's making people listen to it, then I think that's fantastic.
Greta was diagnosed as a child with obsessive-compulsive disorder and Asperger’s syndrome, just like her younger sister Beata. The activist also has a photographic memory. She knows all the capitals by heart and can list all the chemical elements of the periodic table within one minute. In addition, she has another gift according to her mother.
“Greta is able to see what other people cannot see,” writes Malena Ernman in the book.
“She can see carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how it flows out of chimneys and changes the atmosphere in a landfill.”
What's the scientific consensus about this one?
inb4 the "it was a metaphor" excuse.
 

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She was cropped out of a photo of white climate activists. Now, she says it's time to stop erasing African voices

By Caleb Okereke and Stephanie Busari, CNN
Updated 1:22 PM ET, Thu January 30, 2020

Climate activists Vanessa Nakate, Luisa Neubauer, Greta Thunberg, Isabelle Axelsson and Loukina Tille, from left, arrive for a news conference in Davos. The AP news agency apologized for earlier publishing an image with Nakate cropped out.


Climate activists Vanessa Nakate, Luisa Neubauer, Greta Thunberg, Isabelle Axelsson and Loukina Tille, from left, arrive for a news conference in Davos. The AP news agency apologized for earlier publishing an image with Nakate cropped out.

Kampala, Uganda (CNN) When Ugandan climate change activist Vanessa Nakate attended the World Economic Conference in Davos, Switzerland, she was excited to share her message with the world.
Instead, she ended up at the center of a fierce debate over race and representation in the media.

Nakate, 23, had been invited to attend a youth climate science event. When news coverage of the event emerged, she noticed she had been cropped out of a photograph, where she appeared alongside activists Greta Thunberg, Isabelle Axelsson, Luisa Neubauer and Loukina Tille.

Nakate told CNN that the incident points to a wider issue of erasure of African voices in climate action conversations.


"Africans have truly been erased from the map of climate action," Nakate said during an interview at her home in Uganda.

"Very many African activists have been doing a lot of work, putting in a lot of effort, trying to get their message heard and listened to," she added.

'Sad and worthless'

The cropped photo was taken by an Associated Press (AP) photographer, and Nakate confronted the agency about the incident on Twitter, writing "Why did you remove me from the photo? I was part of the group!"

She added in a video statement: "It was the first time in my life that I understood the definition of the word 'racism.' "

AP at first said cropping Nakate out of the photo as "purely a composition" decision but later apologized in a series of statements, saying it had made a "terrible mistake."

AP later announced on Monday that the incident had prompted soul searching within the organization and that it would expand diversity training for employees.

Nakate says the experience left her feeling "sad and worthless," because not only was she initially cropped out of the AP image, her presence was also not reported in initial versions of an article on the conference.

"My reaction was more of a feeling of sadness and a feeling of being worthless and having wasted my time at the press conference. Because I did not just see the photo, I went ahead to read the article. And, in the article still, I was not introduced as one of the activists who were at the press conference," she says.

Her name appeared in later versions.

A movement ignored

Nakate was inundated with support on social media after the AP photo went viral. Thunberg condemned the agency's action on her social media pages.


"The online reaction has been so powerful and very supportive. Despite all the hurt and the depression, I had very many people who came out and supported me," she said.

"People have been pouring out all kinds of support, and speaking against any kind of discrimination or injustice towards African climate activists."

Rather than erase her from the conversation, the crop instead has strengthened her voice and catapulted her to global recognition, with a newly verified Twitter account and thousands of new followers to her cause.


Nakate says what happened to her is not an isolated incident and is she will fight to ensure that African activists have a seat at the global table.

"Many of these [African] activists have been going through these things, but they just did not have the strength to air them out," she said.

"Now is the time to put an end to it."

Reactions echoed Nakate's sentiment that the crop was symptomatic of a movement that largely has been ignored by Western mainstream media.

Climate justice activist Jamie Margolin said, "The press has been consistently 'cropping out' youth of color in their coverage of the climate action movement for years. We must rise up and demand better."

Africa most vulnerable to climate shocks

Nakate grew up in Kampala and got involved in activism in December 2018 after being bothered by unusually high temperatures in her country.

Drawing inspiration from Thunberg, she staged a solitary strike outside Uganda's Parliament to protest climate inaction and rising temperatures that was met with interest by security forces, she said.

'When I went to the Parliament, a couple of policemen checked my placard quite a number of times trying to look for a message or any kind of plot that I had against the government," she said.

Nakate is the founder of the climate action groups, Youth for Future Africa and the Rise Up Movement. She has taken part in 56 Fridays for Future protests and has spent more than 80 days campaigning for the Congo forests.

Experts say Africa is the most vulnerable to climate shocks, with more frequent droughts and floods stretching people to their limits as farmers and herders are left with little time to recover.

East Africa, which comprises Nakate's home country of Uganda, is facing its worst locust invasion in decades after one of the wettest seasons in 40 years came on the back of drought — a situation scientists say is becoming the new normal.

In Uganda, floods and landslides have become more frequent in recent years, and government sources estimate that 300,000 people have been affected and 65,000 displaced.

Over the weekend, Nakate returned from Davos to the home she shares with her parents and four siblings in Kitintale, a middle-class suburb of the country's capital, Kampala.

She said she believes the cropping incident has kickstarted a conversation that will change the framing of African climate change activists.

"Everyone is speaking against the erasure of African activists and the world has set their eyes on these African activists. I believe that now is the time for them to be given the platforms to speak out and to be listened to."

Silas Muwonge contributed to this report.

[CNN]


I'm sure the OP is in total agreement with this young lady, as well. :tape:
 

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The biggest climate problem in Africa is overpopulation. Scary numbers predicted for 2100. 3 billion people. That will not be sustainable at all. There won't be enough arable land and food sources in the future, thus major migrations (to the west) await. That's what she should be battling against and that's where she could actually make a difference. How did that phrase go...first clean your room and the start talking about other people's cleanliness?
 
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