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With Venus pulling out, I don't think anyone on her side of the draw can challenge Justine. All her real threats - Kim, Amelie, Chanda, Lindsay - are in the top half and will wear one another out before the final.
 

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cappy has the experience
 

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irma - When did Jennifer last beat Justine (especially in a big match)?? And with her injury, will she even be in good shape?

janie - I am bitter about her ;)
 

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I still hope kim beats justine in the final but I know already what will happen when kim wins anyway so it's already less fun :eek:

yeah I should not care as my signature says but that's still therapy;)
 

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I dont' understand why people complain about Kim's draws look at henins for the open and wimbledon, wimbledon was a walk to the semis and this one is a walk to the final. But no I predict the winner will come from the top half cause whoever comes thorugh that deserves to be the champion. What this draw does is really limits henins chance of accumulating bonus points particularly if kim doesn't make the final
 

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I'm a Justine fan, but I still don't think that the title is automatically going to be hers. Threats to her:

Kim. Yes, Justine's just beaten her on hardcourt, but I still think that Kim is the better hardcourt player overall and could beat Justine in the final. That said, Justine is very tough in finals (just look at her record in them this year) and Kim seems to be weaker (not weak, just weaker).

Lindsay. Former champion here, lots of experience, definitely had the game to beat Justine on hardcourts. Those deep groundstrokes would keep Justine pinned back to the baseline.

Jennifer - former GS champion, lots of hardcourt experience, should be motivated, playing pretty well at the moment. I think Justine should win this matchup if it happens, but it won't be easy and there's at least a 30% chance of an upset.

Elena Dementieva - playing very well at the moment, a more natural hardcourt player than Justine, and someone she's always had trouble with. I think she poses quite a serious threat to Justine, and she's got to fancy her chances of getting to the final and even winning the thing if she gets past Justine, so she must be motivated.

Amelie - I'd like to see her do well, but given that she's on the other side of the draw, her chances of coming through to face Justine are relatively small. If she does do so, it'll be fantastic match.
 

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Who's weaker........someone who can reach 11 finals in 15 tournaments........or someone who can reach 7 finals in 13 tournaments.......tell me again?
 
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:lol: @ Toontje

who's weaker: someone who wins 6 finals out of 7 only losing one because of injury or someone who wins 6 finals out of 11??? Winning one because of injury of her opponent..

I didn't even mention the titles themself.. 1 Grand Slam, 3 Tier I's and 2 tier II's versus 2 Tier I's and a couple of tier II's?
 

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no justine has no1 to challenge her until the final??????? Jen will have something to say about that! I really want Lindsay to make the finals and not have her usual ''choke'' against Kim
 

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Exactly - I meant weaker *in* the finals themselves. Justine has won 6 of her 7 finals, and only lost one because of an injury. Kim has won 6 finals and lost 5. That's not a bad record at all, but it is a weaker record than Justine's.
 

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Anyone who saw jennifer play last night will not be writing off her chances sin that half so easily. Jennifer loves NYC & the fans there love her-- and I am sure she loves her draw!
Justine has never been past the FOURTH ROUND at the US Open. Yes she is a far better player and competitor than even last year. But she has a lot of new ground to cover if she is to reach even the semis here.
 

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jenglisbe said:
With Venus pulling out, I don't think anyone on her side of the draw can challenge Justine. All her real threats - Kim, Amelie, Chanda, Lindsay - are in the top half and will wear one another out before the final.
I think so.

Also I think that when Serena returns they should hand her every grand slam that she enters and the olympics.
 

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I think that Jennifer and Kim could pose a threat to Justine, but I think the title is hers to win or lose now.
 

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Why?? The courts at Flushing Meadows are different(faster ) than that in Toronto, so no one knows if she will go through the draw. :eek: Meanwhile I don't see her defeating Kim or Lindsay (if either makes it to the final) again this summer :tape:
 

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Justine does have the easiest draw out of all the seeds, its pretty much a cake walk to the semis.
However I hope and I also think Kim can beat her in the final. Justine did beat Kim at Acura but remember Kim was killing her in the first set until Justine took the injury time out. Kim is overall a better player on hardcourts and I think next time round she will beat Justine if they meet in the final.
 

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:lol: @ Toontje

who's weaker: someone who wins 6 finals out of 7 only losing one because of injury or someone who wins 6 finals out of 11??? Winning one because of injury of her opponent..

I didn't even mention the titles themself.. 1 Grand Slam, 3 Tier I's and 2 tier II's versus 2 Tier I's and a couple of tier II's?
It doesn't bother me that you mention them!
Is it Kim's fault that Justine even couldn't get to the finals in Tier II events?

Losing in previous rounds makes you a better player?.........Yeez Man!

Did Justine won 9 tournaments in 10 months?...................one GS title doesn't make you #1 !!!!


Week of Tournament Points Result Tier
2003-05-26 Roland Garros 1156 WON Grand Slam
2003-01-13 Australian Open 460 SF Grand Slam
2003-05-05 Berlin 440 WON I
2003-04-07 Charleston 420 WON I
2003-08-11 Toronto 401 WON I
2003-07-28 San Diego 391 WON II
2003-06-23 Wimbledon 370 SF Grand Slam
2003-02-17 Dubai 324 WON II
2003-04-14 Amalia Island 127 SF II
2003-01-06 Sydney 126 SF II
2003-06-16 's-Hertogenbosch 114 F III
2003-02-10 Antwerp 105 SF II
2003-03-17 Miami 101 QF I
 
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