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Should Serena be pushed up to number 4?

  • Yes, replacing pusher-Vika.

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  • Yes, replacing no longer good on grass Maria.

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Yes, replacing lowest ranked Petra.

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Yes, replacing no slam semis Aga.

    Votes: 35 40.7%
  • Yes in theory, but nobody to switch with her.

    Votes: 8 9.3%
  • No

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With Wimbledon coming up and the AELTC's retention of the right to change seeding order against the current rankings do you think 4 time champ Serena Williams should be pushed up to the 4th seed?

I think with her record that she should, in theory, be moved up. 4 wins and 2 extra finals as well as a fair few doubles wins is an exceptional record.

However, bumping her up to 4 requires that you move someone down.

I don't think you can touch Vika, despite cooling off she has been the most dominant player of the year and is number 1 by a considerable margin. And she has a SF from last year.

Nor do I think you can move down Maria. Former champ, last year's runner up. Yeah she's not at her best on grass anymore, but you can't really push her out of the top 4 seedings.

But then it gets a little interesting.

If you move up Serena, then the straight ranking swap is with Petra. But as future Grass Court GOAT and defending champ I don't think you can switch the two.

Which leaves Aga. Recent loss to Kuzzy aside she has been a strong number 3 so far this year. But she's never made the SFs of a slam before. But I guess you can counter this by saying rankings-wise she's never been expected to make a SF until RG this year so it's only a new expectation. On top of that she has two QFs at Wimbledon which makes it her most successful slam venue along with the AO. I think this is the most interesting possible swap.

Personally, I think Serena deserves to move into the top 4 seedings, but none of the above 4 deserve to move down. So in theory it should happen but in practice probably not.

What do you reckon?
 

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Only moving Serena makes no sense. So they have to move up Petra to #3 and Serena to #4.
If it would happen, noone could really complain. Radwanska never made slam SF while defending champ and 4 times champ behind her on rankings.
But wont happen, AELTC doesnt care that much to "make controversy", they just want pretty girls in short dress between 2 mens matches.
 

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They can't and won't push Petra to 5th
they just follow the ranking and change up the seeding
 

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Only moving Serena makes no sense. So they have to move up Petra to #3 and Serena to #4.
If it would happen, noone could really complain. Radwanska never made slam SF while defending champ and 4 times champ behind her on rankings.
But wont happen, AELTC doesnt care that much to "make controversy", they just want pretty girls in short dress between 2 mens matches.
Yeah, I kind of thought it was implicit that moving Rena up to 4 and putting Aga down to 5 would mean that Petra went to number 3. Or at least that's how I meant it!
 

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I would think that having just lost to a player seeded #115 who in turn loses to a player ranked 97th weakens the case for higher seed consideration.
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Serena has lost 4th round and 1st round at the Slams this year, she lost in the 4th round at Wimbledon last year. How on earth is she deserving of a Top 4 seeding?
I would think that having just lost to a player seeded #115 who in turn loses to a player ranked 97th weakens the case for higher seed consideration.
Both good points. Though I don't agree with bumping the seedings of players in general, I could understand the argument in favour of it last year. She was the defending champion and her ranking was low because of a long absence due to injury. Niether apply this year.
 

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the seeding boost has always been about protecting other players not serena.

Serena and Venus have both won slams ranked very low over the years.

i.e 2007 OZ for Serena

I think Venus won Wimbledon in 2007 or 2005 seeded around 28 or something.
 
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