It would interesting to hear Serena respond to this. She was almost disdainful of the idea of still playing pro tennis at 38 and now that she is still eagerly active and inspired, for her to explain her thoughts in 2010 would be worth reading
Serena flat out said, I'm done at 38. And she said it in a way to be mocking the sport, as if she would have much better things to do with her life. This bold, arrogant declaration she made ten years ago merits discussion and a comment from the Queen Momma herself.
What an odd take on this. I don't hear disdain in her voice, at all. I hear a combination tone of "you're seriously asking me about 10 years from now?" with humor.But it was the derision in which she said it, it sounded like she was dissing the sport so bad, if I'm still playing this ridiculous sport at 38 and not doing more productive things with my life, I command you reporters to come on out and drag my big a55 off the court. She insulted the sport. She could have said I love tennis so much you will have to drag me off to stop me from playing pro. But no, she said if I'm still playing this damned game at 38, drag me off the court.
She's answered this quite clearly before, and we've seen things that have changed in her outlook in tennis to inform this as well. In 2010, nobody talked about 24 as the target number. Now that they have and she's so close to it, she openly has said she wants it. She hasn't gotten it yet, in spite of four finals reached while stuck on #23, aged 36 and 37 (i.e. before she was 38), and she thinks she can get it.Not much going on in the tennis world now, so this is appropriate and justified discussion. Tennis fans would like to hear what changed her opinion about still playing at 38.
Funny that an anonymous nobody feels the need to demand answers from someone s/he's never met and is never gonna meet on a forum where she'll never see the demand and gets all snowflakey when people wonder what his agenda is.Funny that anonymous nobodies feel the need to protect the Queen from even the mildest criticism and questioning. It's funny and admirable at the same time.
Your projection of your own anger on her is astounding.She basically said if I'm still playing this ridiculous sport at 38 i'd be a damned fool and please physically remove me from this sport, I command you to do that. And she said this moments after winning the most prestigious title in the sport. Has a great champion of the sport ever sha7 on the sport so verbally as this?
What would Serena be without tennis? The sport has given her everything. How dare she sha7 on the sport like that.
Actually, what that poster is saying isn't quite the stretch you're making it out to be. Serena since starting to work with Mouratoglou has demonstrated more evident hunger and passion for the sport, but there were long periods through her 20's where she often took glee in projecting an image that she was too cool for the sport. She had enough competitive drive to achieve a lot: but more in the fact that she hated losing rather than loving to win. So at the moment she made the comment in question, she genuinely meant "I don't see myself doing this silly shit when I'm 38. I'd be doing far cooler stuff". She has been far more purposeful since 2012 or so, but it was not always like that.Your projection of your own anger on her is astounding.
Which has been made clear, repeatedly, and the @assh01e asking the question at the beginning has been rightfully put in his/her place. His/her 10-year after the fact anger at Serena Williams, age 28, not considering that she might still love the sport, might love it more, might be more interested in the historical nature of her career, etc., is unnecessary. And it's genuine anger. Look at how he/she keep going on about it.Actually, what that poster is saying isn't quite the stretch you're making it out to be. Serena since starting to work with Mouratoglou has demonstrated more evident hunger and passion for the sport, but there were long periods through her 20's where she often took glee in projecting an image that she was too cool for the sport. She had enough competitive drive to achieve a lot: but more in the fact that she hated losing rather than loving to win. So at the moment she made the comment in question, she genuinely meant "I don't see myself doing this silly shit when I'm 38. I'd be doing far cooler stuff". She has been far more purposeful since 2012 or so, but it was not always like that.
I really think Kimiko Date deserves some kind of exhibit at the Tennis Hall of Fame. When she came back at age 37, reached the top 100, won a tour title, etc., it changed tennis' perception of objective vs subjective age. There were players continuing in singles into their 30s, but she was the first to really begin again that LATE into her 30s, AND succeed.38 is extreme. We're used to it today as even Federer is still out there and Vee, but really, it's not the norm, especially in 2010. No wonder she was so dismissive of the idea.
I think the issue here is that Serena's on-court behavior and demeanor can be questionable at times, but Court has a stadium named after her at 1 of the 4 biggest tournaments in the world and because of that, what she said is worse.Court never threatened to murder an official or threaten bodily harm to an umpire. And she did not ruin anyone's first major title winning moment because of her own nervous breakdown like Serena inflicted on poor Osaka. Completely wrecked her dream come true moment. No denyng Serena was a great champion but in terms of class and honor, she is miles and miles behind Margaret Court.
You should probably go next door and post this since most of them consider the pusher the GOAT despite being 3RD in Slams.Most majors is the main criteria for judging the best of all time. Even if she falls short of Court the media, which hates Court, will talk Serena into being the Goat. The media has the power to persuade little boys and girls to want to change gender, to say good is bad and up is down...they can manipulate Serena in the goat throne.