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SerenaSlam said:
the point is, how can someone claim Kim to be "deserving" of something, when only 1 person can be "deserving" meaning only 1 can be the best. With that said, kim cannot be "deserving" of anything when Serena is "more" deserving, even if Kim b/c's number 1 :)

This post, along with all your others in this thread should prevent anyone from taking you seriously.
 

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That is why right now she is number 1. Someone said this about Kim. She has played 11 tournies. She has 11 semi finals. She has won 4 titles. They say she consistently wins. When you look at her tournies. She is loosing more than she wins.

What about Serena? Well she has played 7 tournies. She has been in 7 Semis. She has 4 titles. She is winning more than she looses. She has already beaten Kim twice this year. She has two slams. They say she isn't playing enough.

Take a look at these numbers. How much more do you peope want serena to play? Like 10 more tourneis? Last year she ended 56-4. They say she played more, and therefore got to number 1. This year she is already 38-3. Well ahead of pace. Last year serena ONLY PLAYED 12 TOURNIES. She already has played 7. After wimbledon last year, she only played 5 tournies. Having w/drawn from Like 2-3. This year she only needs 5 tournies, to be caught up with last years performance in tournies played. This is why i am confused about why people say Serena doesn't play enough. Last year, everyone was saying, she is playing more, and therefore getting to number 1. When in fact the main reason why she got to number 1, is whe won 3 straight slams. At the same time, she was yes winning all the other tournies. Look at this year. She has won 2 slams, and 2 tournies. And we are still counting. We are halfway through the year, and she has already done half of what she did last year.

No matter what you people say, the amount Serena is playing is always going to be in questions as long as kim is playing like 10 more tournies than her. Serena is playing on schedule to the same as she did last year. And everyone was talking about how she is playing more. Look at the big picture folks. Serena is playing the same amount as last year, hell she is playing MORE than last year. After her wimbledon win last year, Serena was 36-3. She is 38-3 now. That is only 2 more matches. But she is playing more isn't she? Even if she was even at 36-3 this year and last year, how people can say she doesn't play enough this year, and last year they say she played more. I dont understand.

you people really make no sense. As long as Kim is playing around 10 more tournies than Serena, she is just going to keep getting more points than Serena. Its what you people say that makes no sense. One year you are talking about how much more Serena is playing. Now she does the same thing the following year, and b/c her number 1 ranking is in jepordy, everyone is running their mouth about how serena doesn't play enough. You are all just contradicin yalls selves. you are takin back shit you said last year, and turnin it all around.

Serena is way more deserving of number 1 in the world. Everyone is calling Steffi Graf the greatest. But let me ask this question. If the tour had as much depth as it did back then, and Steffi had an opponent she continued to beat, but they were consistetn in getting to the semis and finals like kim, playing about 10 more tournies than Steffi, would they ever get any consideration of being number 1 above Steffi? Hell no. So why now, all of a sudden, you have Serena winning slams, and tournies, and beating this gurl, Are we trying to figure out a way to call someone number 1, that is 1 not deserving, 2 has not won a slam, and 3 hasn't beaten number 1 almost over a year? But has lost to number 1 twice since the last time she beat her?

Steffi played around the same amount as Serena Played. Had someone Like Kim Clijsters been aorund, and challenged her number 1 ranking. W/out any doubts in my mind, there would be no discussion of how "deserving" she would actually be. People had since back then. You have steffi winning the slams, you had steffi win the "grandslam" and you had her winning the tournies as well. If Kim Clijsters was back then w/ steffi, they would make her a set number 2 w/out any hopes of becoming number 1.

I don't know why people do this. They say what kim has accomplished. They know Serena has done the same, and more, but act like they can't say it. Why can't they say it? B/c they want to overlook it, act like Serena hasn't done antyhing, and wanna have any chance of trying to act like kim is deserving of number 1. you through serena's accomplishments, which are greater of Kim's out the window like they have never even happend.

Serena is defitnelty deserving of number 1. That is why she is number 1. People say what kim is "deserving of" and she hasn't even gotten to number 1 yet. When she gets there, if she hasn't beaten serena or won a slam, she is not deserving at all. When you want to be called the best, the best is supposed to be able to beat EVERYBODY, AND WIN THE SLAMS.
She's only "deserving of" it until Kim passes her. Then she will be "perfectly capable of" the #1 ranking.
 

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SerenaSlam said:
the point is, how can someone claim Kim to be "deserving" of something, when only 1 person can be "deserving" meaning only 1 can be the best. With that said, kim cannot be "deserving" of anything when Serena is "more" deserving, even if Kim b/c's number 1 :)
Your problem is that you have ability confused with entitlement.
 

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you know, i'm a serious Serena fan but after all this whining i've changed my mind.

go Kim!!!!!!!! become #1. you definitely deserve it. if Serena wanted it badly enuf she wouldn't be off doing a bit part in Toronto while you commit yourself to being out there on the courts slugging away.

so....go Kim!!!!!!! :bounce:

of course i fully expect Sure Winna to snatch her tiara back a week or so later... :p
 

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I'm not gonna rip SerenaSlam a new.....well you know.....but I will say had Kim won Wimbledon or the French, I might agree that she deserved to be No.#1. Kim would have definitely earned it by the fact she is playing the tournaments.

But the fact is, she has not won a Grand Slam so far. And as somebody mentioned, she has lost several matches this year. Based on her consistency, Kim probably deserves to be ranked No. #2.

But the true No. #1 player is there now.......
 

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:yawn: :tape: :help: :retard: :zzz:

if you know what I mean... :rolleyes:
 

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Serena deserves the no.1 ranking more than anybody. If Kim ever reaches there, Serena will still deserve it more cuz she's the one who owns three GS titles in the past 51 weeks and how many does Kim own? Obviously if Kim passes Serena, it will be solely because of the number of tournies she has played. The ranking system is corrupt and better be altered asap to reflect the true no.1 that is no matter what Serena J Williams!! I don't give a fuck about who is ranked no.1. All I care about is who is the best and nothing other than that. At the moment whoever reaches there, Serena is the best and will be the one for the foreseable future. She's simply the best!!!
 

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Clijsters plays alot, but like Hingis.. she can kick ass early in the tournament but when her 1st competition comes up.. she gets trounced.. losing to an injured Venus at Wimbledon was the worst....
 

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Serena and Venus have always caused controversy around the #1 position. What I love about both sisters is that they don't allow tennis to control their lives. They will not play tournaments back to back and let the game dominate them.


Everyone else has a different mentality. Yes, Serena deserves the #1 ranking but the computer rewards playing a number of tournaments. Kim has did so consistently and the spot is hers.

Once Serena see's her name at #2, she will cut down on some of her extra activities and trounce the competition again. :D
 

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MartyFan said:
Kim is a whole lot betterz!

And, where's your proof...??? Tallking out your azz doesn't cut it around here...!!!
 

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What's apparent here is that alot of the hatefull posts are coming fgrom belgians and haters. How surprising :rolleyes:

Serenaslam allthough it's a too big a post, I think you've made an excellent point and you shouldn't mind those who say that this is a broken record. No one complains about the "Martina Come Back"- threads, but they do complain about the single "Serena is the undisputed no. 1" thread.

Thanks for showing us that theres still a double standard around these parts.
 

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NOBODY deserves the #1
They all play for it, today Serena is #1 because she won, perhaps tomorrow will be Arancha Parra.
 

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I think that there is no need to explain in such a bg post. Serena is the best player because, she plays less tournaments then Kim, and she has consistent results, (semifinals, sometimes quarterfinals [very rarely tho'] finals and she wins some of these tournaments) and she with those points, she remains regular on the top. Kim plays a lot of tournaments, but she doesn't win all of them, she doens't reach the finals of all of them...

So Serena is more regular more consistent and that's it
 

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I quite agree with you.
But do you think Serena would still "win more than lose" (as you say it well in every thread) if she played 11 tournaments ? Maybe, maybe not.
Because, i'm gonna tell you something obvious : in a tournament, if you lose 1 time, you definitely cannot win that tournament. It' logical. Cause when Kim lost, it's not as if she lost in the first round (she lost in the finals or semis) = she was one or 2 matches from winning the title.
And she didn't lose to low-ranked players !
when I read you, I have the feeling Kim doesn't deserve to be a top 10 player.
 
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