[King_Stacio]

It seems that Iga can’t boss around the big girls. Miss baseball cap better hope she keeps getting head-cases like Jabeur, Gauff, or Sakkari in those finals or else. 🤭

I still can’t understand how Sakkari isn’t in the mix. With her game she should be beating Igor.

 

[King_Stacio]

Krejcikova isn’t that big of an issue since she randomly peaks for one tournament out of the blue and then goes back to being irrelevant/ a doubles player.

She hasn’t made a Slam QF in over a year and usually loses to the first top player she meets at a tournament

She could be Swiatek’s kryptonite this coming RG. The problem for Swiatek is Sabalenka and Rybakina are good on clay as well.

 

[V20s19r]

I’m mostly enjoying other players taking it to Iga and destroying that false invincibility that the tennis elite have given her. She’s a solid player but beatable by anyone powerful and consistent.

 

[Wasabi.]

@Aaron. Apologies to Queen on SS are deserved, please make your way to Blast from the Past forum. Respectfully, Rybakina isn't an as good server as Serena because she smashes your new girl.

 

[Correspond]

Krejcikova isn’t that big of an issue since she randomly peaks for one tournament out of the blue and then goes back to being irrelevant/ a doubles player.

She hasn’t made a Slam QF in over a year and usually loses to the first top player she meets at a tournament

I think you're being disingenuous...Krejcikova was recovering from tennis elbow last year, coming back literally the week before the French open. It would have been very unlikely for her to make any GS QFs in 2022 given that she would have been recovering her strength in the months following that period.

That being said, she still managed to dust 1ga twice in the past year, which I think puts her above being a player that "randomly" peaks.

 

[Aaron.]

@Aaron. Apologies to Queen on SS are deserved, please make your way to Blast from the Past forum. Respectfully, Rybakina isn't an as good server as Serena because she smashes your new girl.

STFU. I never said Rybakina's serve was better than Serena. You're annoying AF.

And you're also the one who said Parks was more talented than Gauff. When homegurl can't even win a match outdoors.

Girl bye.

 

[Wasabi.]

STFU. I never said Rybakina's serve was better than Serena. You're annoying AF.

And you're also the one who said Parks was more talented than Gauff. Get the f*** out.

Why are you losing composure? I'm annoying AF when you made a literal thread out of my throwaway comment on a results thread saying Alycia has a higher ceiling/natural talent. I would not try to call you out like that but ok.

 

[Aaron.]

Why are you losing composure? I'm annoying AF when you made a literal thread out of my throwaway comment on a results thread saying Alycia has a higher ceiling/natural talent. I would not try to call you out like that but ok.

Sorry hon, but saying Parks is more talented than Gauff is a ridiculous take when she can't win matches outdoors.

 

[Wasabi.]

Sorry hon, but saying Parks is more talented than Gauff is a ridiculous take when she can't win matches outdoors.

That isn't the topic of this conversation. You don't have to be right ALL the time. You did claim Rybakina's stats were at the same level, that her serve was as good and kudos to you that you posted the stats, evaluated them and kind of corrected yourself. Everybody makes comments on the heat of the moment it's not a big deal, but Rybakina is an unknown quantity as of yet and we will see. Serena has stood the test of time.

 

[Aaron.]

That isn't the topic of this conversation. You don't have to be right ALL the time. You did claim Rybakina's stats were at the same level, that her serve was as good and kudos to you that you posted the stats, evaluated them and kind of corrected yourself. Everybody makes comments on the heat of the moment it's not a big deal, but Rybakina is an unknown quantity as of yet and we will see. Serena has stood the test of time.

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“On par with” means “about equal to” or “about as good as.”

I never said Rybakina's serve was BETTER than Serena's which you falesly keep proclaiming trying to turn this into something bigger than what it is.

 

[Wasabi.]

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“On par with” means “about equal to” or “about as good as.”

I never said Rybakina's serve was BETTER than Serena's which you falesly keep proclaiming trying to turn this into something bigger than what it is.

All times I referred to it in this thread and your GM thread I've said as good as/on par/same level? The only time I stated you said the serve was better was in my first response during the match - which I apologise for if you need that, but go off sis on what I "keep falsely proclaiming" if you want.

 

[Aaron.]

All times I referred to it in this thread and your GM thread I've said as good as/on par/same level? The only time I stated you said the serve was better was in my first response during the match - which I apologise for if you need that, but go off sis on what I "keep falsely proclaiming" if you want.

On par means something could be slightly worse/of less quality but still comparable. Which is what you're failing to understand.

For example some people say the Indian Wells tournament experience is on par with the US Open. Doesn't mean Indian Wells is better or equal to the US Open but it's comparable/close in experience.

If I wanted to say Rybakina's serve was EQUAL to Serena's I would've just said that. I use my words carefully. Drop it sis.

 

[Wasabi.]

On par means something could be slightly worse/of less quality but still comparable. Which is what you're failing to understand.

For example some people say the Indian Wells tournament experience is on par with the US Open. Doesn't mean Indian Wells is better or equal to the US Open but it's comparable/close in experience.

If I wanted to say Rybakina's serve was EQUAL to Serena's I would've just said that. I use my words carefully. Drop it sis.

"I'd say Rybakina's serve is on par with Serena's although it seems she can generate easier power and find shorter angles in the box due to her height and long arms. Rybakina is like what Venus would serve like if she didn't have any technical decencies in her motion"

I don't agree with your interpretation but the on par you mean looks to be Serena the inferior, that is the real tea. All this to protect a player like Swiatek.

 

[Aaron.]

I know what on par means and used it correctly. If you took from my post that Serena's serve is inferior to Rybakina's that's your bad reading comprehension.

Swiatek lost to Krecjikova twice and Sabalenka recently, I never said anything about them serving like Serena lol. Y'all really be projecting through the internet. Hilarious

 

[WilliamsWillWin]

@Aaron. even "on par" or "as good as" is a stretch. The numbers you posted might seem small, but:

1. 5-7% more first serves made over the course of a near 30-year career is a huge difference; it's more than just the absolute value of the difference between the two
   1. There's also no adjustment or compensation for the competition and quality of players
      
      
2. 3-4% more points won on first serve is, again, a huge difference across the span of a whole career. If you did a plotting of all Slam champions in terms of 1st serve conversion and adjusted someone to the right 3-4%, that could mean a totally different career. We're talking Slams - with an 's'
   
   
3. Again with the 2nd serve statistics, we're not talking about the quality of opponents or the context. Very few aces or points outright are won with the second serve alone. Serena typically only played big events and against top players comparatively vs. Rybakina's much shorter career. ~52% for both is not equivalent.
   
   
4. Finally, 3-4% on total service points won can mean the difference in a lot of individual match wins and/or tournament wins. The volume over the course of years, decades is significant. These numbers you posted in that thread don't really support your argument to someone with even a tenuous grasps of statistics.

We love and accept your penchant to overexaggerate and react too early to things by inflating players' abilities (Swiatek is your latest blunder), but don't be obtuse.

 

[Aaron.]

@Aaron. even "on par" or "as good as" is a stretch. The numbers you posted might seem small, but:

1. 5-7% more first serves made over the course of a near 30-year career is a huge difference; it's more than just the absolute value of the difference between the two
   1. There's also no adjustment or compensation for the competition and quality of players
2. 3-4% more points won on first serve is, again, a huge difference across the span of a whole career. If you did a plotting of all Slam champions in terms of 1st serve conversion and adjusted someone to the right 3-4%, that could mean a totally different career. We're talking Slams - with an 's'
   
   
3. Again with the 2nd serve statistics, we're not talking about the quality of opponents or the context. Very few aces or points outright are won with the second serve alone. Serena typically only played big events and against top players comparatively vs. Rybakina's much shorter career. ~52% for both is not equivalent.
   
   
4. Finally, 3-4% on total service points won can mean the difference in a lot of individual match wins and/or tournament wins. The volume over the course of years, decades is significant. These numbers you posted in that thread don't really support your argument to someone with even a tenuous grasps of statistics.

We love and accept your penchant to overexaggerate and react too early to things by inflating players' abilities (Swiatek is your latest blunder), but don't be obtuse.

1. I only used Serena's serve stats from 2010-2016 (The WTA tour serve stats only go back until 2010) which is not 30 years worth of stats and this was after she was in her 30's and had mastered her serve.

2. Serena's groundstrokes and movement are better than Rybakina's which does play a role in serve points won. Swiatek has a large amount of serve points won despite not being a great server because her ground game is good.

3. Please provide receipts of me overexagerrating and inflating players abilities, I am dying to see those.

 

[WilliamsWillWin]

1. I only used Serena's serve stats from 2010-2016 (The WTA tour serve stats only go back until 2010) which is not 30 years worth of stats and this was after she was in her 30's and had mastered her serve.

2. Serena's groundstrokes and movement are better than Rybakina's which does play a role in serve points won. Swiatek has a large amount of serve points won despite not being a great server because her ground game is good.

3. Please provide receipts of me overexagerrating and inflating players abilities, I am dying to see those.

That's even worse because you arbitrarily picked years. They still faced different competition. And the length of the sample size in terms of number of years isn't congruent. It's poor of you to do this.

Obviously.

Almost all your posts about Swiatek.

 

[Aaron.]

That's even worse because you arbitrarily picked years. They still faced different competition. And the length of the sample size in terms of number of years isn't congruent. It's poor of you to do this.

Obviously.

Almost all your posts about Swiatek.

No receipts per usual, just your usual banter.

Anyways moving on.

 

[Aaron.]

I've been impressed with Rybakina's serve before she won a slam and before she beat Iga twice. So @Wasabi. your point about me trying to somehow "protect Swiatek" is moot.

I posted this before the Wimbledon F.

If Rybakina serves like she did against Halep she'll win 6-3, 7-5.

Ons can't afford any loose errors/untimely dropshots will have to hope Rybakina plays worse than today. I don't think Ons is the best return of server either.

Ons will be able to disrupt Rybakina's rhythm more than Halep did though.

 

[mienshao]

I would love to watch Iga flounder against Sharpie, Venus and Serena on a hard court at their best Serena, this is the shape that you left the tour in?

Say what you want about her game, Barty couldn’t handle the grind of the tour when it was EASY for her. Imagine her playing in a decent era? The mental fry!