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The Rios comments have got me thinking, which one of the current female players has a good chance of challenging one of the top men?

Venus and Serena played those one-setters against Karsteen Braasch in Australia and both lost very easily.

In 99 Serena was talking about playing in Stuttgart and maybe getting a wild-card there but the organizers put a big veto on that and then Serena said she wasn't serious.

Hingis said in Los Angeles in 97 that she thought she could have a chance against the men if they had only one serve...maybe that was a little over-confidence at that point in her career;)

But really which female player has the best chances against the men...it all depends on the style of play of the man as well, anyone with a serve like Goran's they stand no chance, I would put Agassi into the category of no chance as well.

But really it would be interesting to hear what people thought about this, and would could happen if it did ever happen;)
 

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I didn't know that Kafelnikov hit the ball with Venus few year ago at the US Open. Martina says in her interview that Yevgeny was suprised to know that women can hit the ball as well.
 

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I think Davenport would stand the best chance against a male player. She hits the ball hard and deep with consistency. She could probably beat one of the smaller male players like Ferrero or Lapentti. But it's very difficult to judge.
 

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SK-if tiny shrimps like Rios, Hewitt, or Lapentti aren't usually overpowered by their MALE opponents, how could Lindsay do it?
Lindsay herself would laugh at the idea. It's not simply a difference in size(after all a lot of the top women are TALLER than the to men), it's a difference in body mass. I female with a big serve MIGHT hold a game or two-but could she break serve? I doubt it.
 

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I honestly don't know. When I'm watching a mens match I kind of adjust to the speed & power and it becomes very difficult to tell just how differently they play.

All I meant was, out of the top women, I think Davenport would have the best chance.

It's been a while since I've seen a mixed doubles match, but the women don't seem to have that much trouble with the male serves. And although they do tend to be the ones who get broken, they do seem capable of holding serve. I know it's different because it's doubles, but it's just a thought.
 

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Here's Williams-Brasch at the 98 Aussie. Venus DID break serve once.

WILLIAMS SISTERS DISCOVER MEN ARE BETTER PLAYERS

MELBOURNE -- Venus and Serena Williams discovered they're no match for the men on the ATP tennis tour, at least not yet.

In an impromptu 'Battle of the Sexes' at the Australian Open yesterday, first Serena, then Venus challenged No 203 Karsten Braasch to a set apiece, and he beat them both.

Serena fell 6-1, Venus 6-2. They played as intensely as they could, while Braasch performed with gentlemanly restraint.

"It was extremely hard," said the 16-year-old Serena. "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."

That didn't stop her from boasting that "this time next year I'll beat him. I have to pump some weight . . . I have to work hard to be on the men's tour."

Venus, 17, wasn't about to concede too much either, especially since she broke Braasch's serve once.

"I can beat men in the 300s and up," she said. "He thought we couldn't get a point. He didn't think we could play. We showed him we could."

Asked if she might not want to take on players on the senior tour, or retired men as Billie-Jean King did against 1939 Wimbledon champion Bobby Riggs in their ballyhooed 'Battle of the Sexes' in 1973, Venus shook her beaded head.

"I'm going for the young guns," she said.

Braasch smiled at their claims.

"Against anyone in the top 500, no chance," Braasch said, "because I was playing like 600 today."

The sister act played Braasch on Court 12 in the boondocks of the Australian Open complex. A few hundred fans and players who wandered by witnessed the event along with a crowd of media. No umpire, no linesmen, no ball boys, no scoreboard. And no prize money or bets. Only pride was at stake.

It all started a few days ago when the Williams sisters wandered into the ATP tour office at the Australian Open and boldly claimed they could beat any of the men ranked 200 or above. The bespectacled Braasch, a German who has sunk in the rankings after reaching 38 in 1994, happened to be in the office and took up the challenge.

Venus was still in the tournament at the time so a match was set between Serena and Braasch for Sunday. Rain postponed that until yesterday and with the sun shining Serena and Braasch showed up ready to defend the honour of their sexes.

At least that's how Serena saw it. For Braasch, it was a joke. He never even considered the possibility he might be ridiculed by the other men players if he lost.

"Everyone knew that there's no chance for them," he said. "They were talking to me, that I should go out and beat them by as much as possible. They said make it 24 points and go off the court."

He played, he said, for fun, "because tennis doesn't have to be serious, especially when you're out of the tournament." Braasch lost last week in the singles and doubles.

When Riggs lost to King at the Houston Astrodome, there was a crowd of more than 30 000 -- the biggest in tennis history. That nationally televised exhibition, four months after Riggs' 'Mother's Day Massacre' of Margaret Court, did more to establish women's tennis than any other match or tournament.

The Williams sisters, in their way, are bringing new life to the women's tour, even if they couldn't beat Braasch. Venus reached the final of the US Open and the quarters here. Serena has beaten three top 10 players since turning pro a few months ago. Each has the personality and flash to make the sport more popular than ever.

Braasch, a left-handed junk ball expert with a convoluted service motion, won the first five games against Serena. He ran her dizzy all over the court, showing her a befuddling assortment of spins.

He could have hit harder if he wanted, taken her out of points sooner, but as her unofficial coach, Nick Bollettieri, noted at courtside, "He's being kind to her."

Venus, who had just changed into jeans after losing in the women's quarter-finals to Lindsay Davenport, showed up at Court 12 late and saw her sister getting trounced.

"I'd definitely take this guy on," she said. When Braasch held at love to 5-0, Venus' competitiveness got the better of her.

"Maybe I should go get dressed," she said to Bollettieri. "What do you think, Nick?"

"Go for it," he answered.

Venus raced across Melbourne Park, her multi-coloured beads flying among the surprised fans. She changed quickly and raced right back, arriving out of breath just as Serena won her only game when Braasch netted a backhand after a couple of deuces.

The small crowd roared for Serena, but Braasch closed out the set with an ace a few moments later.

As Serena and Braasch shook hands, Venus entered the court and issued her own challenge to Braasch.

Venus had as little success as Serena when the match got under way. She lost her first service game at love, managed only one point on Braasch's serve and dropped her next serve.

But after going down 4-0, Venus held serve at love as Braasch hit several errors.

Perhaps boredom was setting in because Braasch then lost his own serve to 4-2 when Venus cracked a sizzling forehand past him on her second break point.

Braasch wasn't about to let the set get away. He stepped up his pace a bit, overpowered Venus on her serve and closed out the match with an ace.

"I took at least 50 per cent off my serve," Braasch said.

"I came out with a few hard ones, but not too much because then it's not fun anymore and it was supposed to be fun." -- Sapa-AP


Link: http://www.dispatch.co.za/1998/01/28/sport/WILLIAMS.HTM
 

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Venus Williams vs Lleyton Hewitt.

Right now it would be a walkover for Venus. Yay, the women win! ;)

Seriously (???) though, even if Venus loses, it should be interesting to see what transpires, and you can bet it'll be an entertaining match if both go out there and just play a relaxed exhibition match.
 

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a woman never could beat a man.look at this: Lindsay's boyfriend isnt a pro player,he just was a good college-player.now he doesnt practise anymore but he is tall 6.3 and he can serve at 130mph so Lindsay said that when they practise together it is a very tough match and she cannot return to his serve.
this story is for showing that a man (no pro,no in form,just a tall man who played tennis at college level) can beat the n.1 in the world.
 

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well Venus and Serena were only 16 and 17?

The only two person in the womens game that would have a chance is Venus ans Lindsay.
 

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Extremely interesting article Rollo. Thanks for sharing :) . Braasch had however been in the top 50 players only 4 years before these matches took place. So he was quite experienced.

this story is for showing that a man (no pro,no in form,just a tall man who played tennis at college level) can beat the n.1 in the world.
I am not too sure what a tennis college level is :confused: . Could someone give some more precisions? Either in terms of ATP ranking or equivalent French ranking?

Thanks :) .
 

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Scenarios for male-female match....

About a thousand years ago Billie Jean King played an exhibition match with Bobby Riggs who was about 20 years her senior and she did beat him..."Battle of the Sex's" it was billed as. Today's male and female match ups would all be male dominated!! They are by nature stronger and more powerful....a mixed match would be interesting though....Martina and Rafter against Venus and Sampras...Oh! I'm sure we could come up with quite a few attractive matches.....what about Clijsters and Hewitt and Henin and Marcello Rio..in fact put Rio with anybody and he'd get beaten!! He needs a tennis ball aced down his throat!!:mad:
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