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These girls are so fragile.

Look at the men. No withdrawals, no walkovers and no retirements.

Another reason why tournaments focus their $ on ATP players.

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These girls are so fragile.

Look at the men. No withdrawals, no walkovers and no retirements.

Another reason why tournaments focus their $ on ATP players.

Osaka
Muguruza
Kvitova
Goerges
Cornet
S.Williams
Ostapenko
Wozniacki
Venus played with an injury, and most in her result thread were outraged. Better to keep fit, prevent further injuries and rather than suffer a massive breakdowns like Djokovic and Kei 2017/2018 because they were strong and almost destroyed their careers. If this was a hard court tournament, I will bet my last dollar that Nadal would of withdrawn as well.
 

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These girls are so fragile.

Look at the men. No withdrawals, no walkovers and no retirements.

Another reason why tournaments focus their $ on ATP players.

Osaka
Muguruza
Kvitova
Goerges
Cornet
S.Williams
Ostapenko
Wozniacki
The worst thing is, it was predictable. Some of those are serial offenders, or rapidly becoming so in the case of Osaka.
 
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She surely cares about slams than Rome and Madrid. If it's not , then not good Naomi. If there is injury then good call. Better be ready for slams
 

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These girls are so fragile.

Look at the men. No withdrawals, no walkovers and no retirements.

Another reason why tournaments focus their $ on ATP players.

Osaka
Muguruza
Kvitova
Goerges
Cornet
S.Williams
Ostapenko
Wozniacki
The issue is, I believe form all the evidence, is women are more prone to injury naturally, less dense muscle, weaker tendons etc. And tennis has also moved to a where the tech is reducing a natural power and force that is above what a healthy women can cope with naturally for the most part. It's fine for the men whose bodies are bigger, stronger, have more muscle but not for the women. However I think even the teenage men are struggling to cope, they seem to have many more injuries than decades ago. I almost feel women's rackets should return to the early versions in the 90's where the entertainment quality and variety of tennis was far greater.
 

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Venus played with an injury, and most in her result thread were outraged. Better to keep fit, prevent further injuries and rather than suffer a massive breakdowns like Djokovic and Kei 2017/2018 because they were strong and almost destroyed their careers. If this was a hard court tournament, I will bet my last dollar that Nadal would of withdrawn as well.
I applaud Venus for her efforts. She came to play carrying an injury and she finishes her match.

I am okay with players just not show up to the tournaments completely if they are injured and not fit. Some players do get it right though, rest completely and then return (ex: Roger Federer).

The worst thing is, it was predictable. Some of those are serial offenders, or rapidly becoming so in the case of Osaka.
Osaka is just becoming another Serena. A role model she looks up to indeed.

Hopefully her results will mirror that as well.
 

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She surely cares about slams than Rome and Madrid. If it's not , then not good Naomi. If there is injury then good call. Better be ready for slams
Why not give Cibulkova easier opponent or Buzarnescu 3rd retirement of the week? No, Osaka was very much aware she would beat those 2 easily even with a broken hand (if she truly had one). Claytens is a different animal, no surprises she quit without risking a humiliating result.
 

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She surely cares about slams than Rome and Madrid. If it's not , then not good Naomi. If there is injury then good call. Better be ready for slams
Why not give Cibulkova easier opponent or Buzarnescu 3rd retirement of the week? No, Osaka was very much aware she would beat those 2 easily even with a broken hand (if she truly had one). Claytens is a different animal, no surprises she quit without risking a humiliating result.
I said not happy if she took tactical decision which is wrong. Not a good look
But she played 2 matches . She might have got small injury too. Can't rule it out too.
Yes bertens is better clay court but sorry she wasn't going to get humiliated and would've put a good fight even if she would've lost it. Bertens isnt some unbeatble player.
if she doesn't feels good today, good call not to play. No point to play when not 100 percent against a clay court specialist
If it's tactical like she wants to be fresh for slams, it's her call. We can criticise it but she really does care for majors over Rome and Madrid.
 

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I said not happy if she took tactical decision which is wrong. Not a good look
But she played 2 matches . She might have got small injury too. Can't rule it out too.
Yes bertens is better clay court but sorry she wasn't going to get humiliated and would've put a good fight even if she would've lost it. Bertens isnt some unbeatble player.
if she doesn't feels good today, good call not to play. No point to play when not 100 percent against a clay court specialist
If it's tactical like she wants to be fresh for slams, it's her call. We can criticise it but she really does care for majors over Rome and Madrid.
The point is about the timing of these withdrawals, most of the time they tend to happen before matches vs stronger opponents than weaker ones. Like in Stuttgart she apparently risked her life in a match vs serial choker Vekic and quit before the next match against Kontaveit. There is a massive difference between Miki & Kiki. And Osaka is not a natural clay courter, I would not be shocked if she was easily beaten in straights. Serve alone might not be enough vs clay beast like Bertens who is in the best form of her life right now. You know it and I know it. And Osaka sure does know it, too.
 

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These girls are so fragile.

Look at the men. No withdrawals, no walkovers and no retirements.

Another reason why tournaments focus their $ on ATP players.

Osaka
Muguruza
Kvitova
Goerges
Cornet
S.Williams
Ostapenko
Wozniacki
Wow that's a lot of retirements considering we've barely reached the QF stage. Not a great look for the WTA.
 

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I said not happy if she took tactical decision which is wrong. Not a good look
But she played 2 matches . She might have got small injury too. Can't rule it out too.
Yes bertens is better clay court but sorry she wasn't going to get humiliated and would've put a good fight even if she would've lost it. Bertens isnt some unbeatble player.
if she doesn't feels good today, good call not to play. No point to play when not 100 percent against a clay court specialist
If it's tactical like she wants to be fresh for slams, it's her call. We can criticise it but she really does care for majors over Rome and Madrid.
I like Naomi but come on, she was smiling and laughing yesterday during the match. Didn't look remotely injured. I hope she doesn't become another Novak - he used to be awful for retiring over little reason and it made the ATP look pretty bad.
 

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Will probably draw Mladenovic (Vondrousova/Azarenka) in R1 one now at FO.
 
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