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BFCD NCH of 38 in the lives! And the team up to 16 in the race!

Feel sorry for Xu, she's going to have to dump the Canadian woman if she wants to get further in a slam (ironically, YingYing would be great for her)
 

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BFCD NCH of 38 in the lives! And the team up to 16 in the race!

Feel sorry for Xu, she's going to have to dump the Canadian woman if she wants to get further in a slam (ironically, YingYing would be great for her)
Julie has been the weak link almost entirely through every big match they’ve lost, must be frustrating for Gaby. Good on Duan and Zheng though they played better when it counted in the end.
 

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Xu is the problem sorry :lol: She just no good when it matters. No good groundstrokes or net play. Dabrowski should play with Schuurs
 

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Xu is the problem sorry :lol: She just no good when it matters. No good groundstrokes or net play. Dabrowski should play with Schuurs
Julie has been the weak link almost entirely through every big match they’ve lost, must be frustrating for Gaby. Good on Duan and Zheng though they played better when it counted in the end.
Xu may not be good enough but the last two games lost were entirely on Dabrowski's racket (whether net or overhead).
 
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the last two games lost were entirely on Dabrowski's racket (whether net or overhead).[/QUOTE said:
Exactly! The Canadian's fault they're not in semis, and it's not the first time she'd panicked near the end of a big match.
 

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Dabrowski/Xu... mental giants. :eek:h:
 

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Duan may bea hot ticket in Chinese tennis for the Olympics next year. She’s had fairly successful partnerships with Han Xinyun & Wang Yafan, and of course this week when Zheng Saisai.

With Zhang Shuai (despite the loss today) leading the charge in doubles, and a question mark on when Peng Shuai will be healthy again, and specialsts Xu Yifan & Yang Zhaoxuan hanging around, the doubles picture in context of the Olympics could get very interesting.

A lot of different pairings and permutations likely depending on who qualifies in singles, and who they have high enough for the cutoffs.


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Feel sorry for Xu, she's going to have to dump the Canadian woman if she wants to get further in a slam (ironically, YingYing would be great for her)
Funny watching them at Eastbourne last year I was thinking exactly the reverse.:eek:h: Though in Fairness to Xu, I was thinking about one Slam in particular.

Talking of Eastbourne has BFCD's singles career ground to a halt:confused: Saw her play in singles there a couple of years back and some of her shots were like rockets.:surprise:



Anyway Team Doby/Xu have stuck together quite a while now.Despite what us experts think.
 

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BFCD SAI :inlove:

BFCD got married last year and her singles ranking has nose dived ... hopefully she raises it again soon but she is going to need WC (which could be possible in China) or start from ITF
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Duan may bea hot ticket in Chinese tennis for the Olympics next year. She’s had fairly successful partnerships with Han Xinyun & Wang Yafan, and of course this week when Zheng Saisai.

With Zhang Shuai (despite the loss today) leading the charge in doubles, and a question mark on when Peng Shuai will be healthy again, and specialsts Xu Yifan & Yang Zhaoxuan hanging around, the doubles picture in context of the Olympics could get very interesting.

A lot of different pairings and permutations likely depending on who qualifies in singles, and who they have high enough for the cutoffs.


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Great points - just hope there's not too much "swapping around" late on in the day, but rather that the pairs settle down soonish.

Xu-Peng if she's healthy?!
 

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Great points - just hope there's not too much "swapping around" late on in the day, but rather that the pairs settle down soonish.



Xu-Peng if she's healthy?!


Who can get their ranking up in singles will be a factor. The more players qualified in singles, the less places for doubles only specialists on the team. When you at this point to have to assume Zhang Shuai has a pretty good chance to have a coveted top 10 doubles ranking for 2020. Although I see BFFs Stosur/Zhang sticking together in 2020, I could also see Stosur/Barty for 2020, in which case Zhang could/should partner with anyone as preparation.

Whatever happens, it is going to be tough, and they’ll be a good player left at home for sure.

Xu/Yang won the Asian Games last year beating the Chans in the final, I could see them giving it a go next year too.

Although Dabrowski is left in a weird spot, unless Andreescu wanted to give it a go full time with her. Bouchard maybe, but certainly not Abanda for Olympic preparation. Gaby’s goal will be to keep her ranking in the top 10 to keep her Olympic spot safe.

Not saying all the teams next year will be Olympic based, but I imagine a lot will. I could easily ser a Schuurs/Bertens pairing next year.


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Dabrowski needs to dump Xu ASAP. Gaby wouldn't win a Slam in any other era but women doubles has seen much better days and it's time to strike.

She'll most likely play with Andreescu in Tokyo if Bianca is healthy enough. It could be catastrophic for her if Bianca has to withdraw and she doesn't have a guaranteed top 100 spot because Abanda and Marino still look to be a long way from the top 100 and who knows what will happen with Bouchard.
 

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Dabrowski needs to dump Xu ASAP. Gaby wouldn't win a Slam in any other era but women doubles has seen much better days and it's time to strike.

She'll most likely play with Andreescu in Tokyo if Bianca is healthy enough. It could be catastrophic for her if Bianca has to withdraw and she doesn't have a guaranteed top 100 spot because Abanda and Marino still look to be a long way from the top 100 and who knows what will happen with Bouchard.
If she(Dabrowski) is still a top 10 doubles player, she will be able to play with any Canadian with a minimum ranking of 300 in Singles or doubles
 

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If she(Dabrowski) is still a top 10 doubles player, she will be able to play with any Canadian with a minimum ranking of 300 in Singles or doubles
Yes, there was a mistake in my post as it's obviously a top 10 spot and not a top 100 spot. :lol: If she falls out of the top 10, it could be dangerous for her if Bianca isn't healthy.
 

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Dabrowski needs to dump Xu ASAP. Gaby wouldn't win a Slam in any other era but women doubles has seen much better days and it's time to strike.

She'll most likely play with Andreescu in Tokyo if Bianca is healthy enough. It could be catastrophic for her if Bianca has to withdraw and she doesn't have a guaranteed top 100 spot because Abanda and Marino still look to be a long way from the top 100 and who knows what will happen with Bouchard.
Bianca as her partner makes most sense for medal contention but should she not be able or willing to play I think Gaby would be wise to partner with Fichman who she knows well and has had some success with before. Worth noting that in about 7 months Sharon has gone from unranked without professional match play in 2 years to nearly back in the top 100 again. She’s a very good doubles player and in my opinion underachieved a bit because her focus was heavier on developing her singles career before injuries.
 
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Julie has been the weak link almost entirely through every big match they’ve lost, must be frustrating for Gaby. Good on Duan and Zheng though they played better when it counted in the end.
I have made the point in another thread that Dabrowski/Xu are a viable doubles pairing based on consistent results in big tournaments. But I do not deny that in the big matches I have seen and in the critical moments, Xu seems to go off somewhat, nerves take over and she loses feel on her shots quite badly, both groundies and volleys. This is a shame because she really is potent at the net and I have seen her carry Dabrowski through in less high stakes matches.

On another note, Ying Ying really is a dangerous doubles player, she is comfortable moving forward when has only half the court to cover and she has competent volleys. Her real selling point as a doubles player is that despite her limited movement she is very potent off the ground, moreso in doubles than in singles because she does not need to cover as much court, therefore she has a lot more time to set up for her big shots. The pace of her groundies makes it very difficult for the net player to intercept or control volleys. Ying Ying has won a lot of points that I have seen by just crushing the ball cross court and setting up an easy volley for Zheng, or drilling it down the centre or down the line where the opponent just can't control the pace coming at them.
 

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On another note, Ying Ying really is a dangerous doubles player, she is comfortable moving forward when has only half the court to cover and she has competent volleys. Her real selling point as a doubles player is that despite her limited movement she is very potent off the ground, moreso in doubles than in singles because she does not need to cover as much court, therefore she has a lot more time to set up for her big shots. The pace of her groundies makes it very difficult for the net player to intercept or control volleys. Ying Ying has won a lot of points that I have seen by just crushing the ball cross court and setting up an easy volley for Zheng, or drilling it down the centre or down the line where the opponent just can't control the pace coming at them.
Great summary (as usual!), V.Melb. This team is def. v patient about waiting for exactly the right plays in order to finish off points.
 

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Glad others on this message thread able to see the Dabrowski-Yu vs. Duan-Zheng match. I didn't, a casualty of WTA TV no longer available to Americans. I had to subscribe to Tennis Channel Plus which is showing most of doubles matches but unfortunately not all like WTA TV. Or maybe you're getting matches thru bandit feeds. I don't have any luck with them anymore, plus because of time difference have to hope Tennis Channel Plus offers doubles matches in its OnDemand section which it does even less of the time than ones it shows live.
 
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