[FactsPlease]

I'm very confused about something.

Earlier today, it was announced that Silvia Soler-Espinosa withdrew from RG, and was being replaced by a lucky loser: Laurs Robson.

And indeed, the draw now shows Robson as a LL, to play Anabel Medina Garrigues.

How come that spot didn't go to Sesil Karatantcheva, who - like Robson - also lost in the third round of Quallies?

Not only is Karatantcheva's official RG ranking higher than Robson's (125 v. 126), but Sesil's RG Quallie seed was higher, too (14 v. 15).

Since they both lost in the third round of Quallies, how did Robson get the LL spot over Sesil? HELP!!

 

[frenchie]

maybe Sesil was already gone?

 

[Just Do It]

^ She would return for 18 000 euros, no?

 

[s_j]

The reason they're a lucky loser is because all final round qualies are 'put into a hat' and drawn randomly. Hence, the loser is 'lucky'.

 

[FactsPlease]

The reason they're a lucky loser is because all final round qualies are 'put into a hat' and drawn randomly. Hence, the loser is 'lucky'.

NO - the spot goes to the highest-ranked loser in the last qualifying round.

 

[FactsPlease]

maybe Sesil was already gone?

If she were the first in line as a LL, it's very hard to believe - given all the money and points at stake - that she wouldn't wait around a couple days to see if anyone withdraws before playing.

 

[Sphrontanascier]

I thought it was randomly drawn between the 4 highest ranked player in the 3rd round :shrug: That what happened with the men's draw.

 

[Sphrontanascier]

Yep. In the men's draw, David Goffin is LL despite Bachinger being seed number 2 and Brands seed number 5 (Goffin was number 9)

 

[fede33]

I thought it was randomly drawn between the 4 highest ranked player in the 3rd round :shrug: That what happened with the men's draw.

this happened

 

[fede33]

NO - the spot goes to the highest-ranked loser in the last qualifying round.

NO in Grand Slam

 

[RyanGuy]

The reason they're a lucky loser is because all final round qualies are 'put into a hat' and drawn randomly. Hence, the loser is 'lucky'.

I thought it was randomly drawn between the 4 highest ranked player in the 3rd round :shrug: That what happened with the men's draw.

Yeah, I thought that's exactly what happened.

 

[In The Zone]

I thought it was randomly drawn between the 4 highest ranked player in the 3rd round :shrug: That what happened with the men's draw.

NO - the spot goes to the highest-ranked loser in the last qualifying round.

The WTA and ITF have different rules.

On the WTA tour, the highest ranked final round loser gets in. This is why we see tanks. See Martinez Sanchez in Strasbourg last week. She lost in the final round but when she started to have a tough match, she may not have pushed herself as hard knowing that she was in the main draw - regardless.

The ITF places the four highest ranked final round losers and draws them RANDOMLY. So that way, people do not tank and must fight to the end as it is never certain they'll get in as a LL.

Give me the ITF rules any day over the WTA's.

 

[Trigo]

The fourth highest ranked final round loser was no-one other than JULIA COHEN.
So sad she wasn't the "lucky" one.
People here would be MAD!

 

[guichard]

The WTA and ITF have different rules.

On the WTA tour, the highest ranked final round loser gets in. This is why we see tanks. See Martinez Sanchez in Strasbourg last week. She lost in the final round but when she started to have a tough match, she may not have pushed herself as hard knowing that she was in the main draw - regardless.

The ITF places the four highest ranked final round losers and draws them RANDOMLY. So that way, people do not tank and must fight to the end as it is never certain they'll get in as a LL.

Give me the ITF rules any day over the WTA's.

If there is more than 2 withdrawls, it is the number of withdrawl +2 .So if they need 3 LL, it will be a random draw of the five highest ranked final round losers.

 

[FactsPlease]

The ITF places the four highest ranked final round losers and draws them RANDOMLY. So that way, people do not tank and must fight to the end as it is never certain they'll get in as a LL.

Seems to be a consensus that this is what happened. Thanks! I knew the tennis-freak-obsessives on Tennis Forum would come through with an answer. That's why I love this place!

 

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I know Garbiñe Muguruza was ranked third after the hat thing

 

[David Barker]

I'm very confused about something.

Earlier today, it was announced that Silvia Soler-Espinosa withdrew from RG, and was being replaced by a lucky loser: Laurs Robson.

And indeed, the draw now shows Robson as a LL, to play Anabel Medina Garrigues.

How come that spot didn't go to Sesil Karatantcheva, who - like Robson - also lost in the third round of Quallies?

Not only is Karatantcheva's official RG ranking higher than Robson's (125 v. 126), but Sesil's RG Quallie seed was higher, too (14 v. 15).

Since they both lost in the third round of Quallies, how did Robson get the LL spot over Sesil? HELP!!

As said It is out of the hat, good old ITF! if had been WTA way Blanco higher than Sesil anyway....

 

[Tenis Srbija]

The fourth highest ranked final round loser was no-one other than JULIA COHEN.
So sad she wasn't the "lucky" one.
People here would be MAD!

Maybe there is still hope Someone should "take out" some of the players in the MD

 

[Halepsova]

Robson is a joke. Good choice for AMG.

 

[Elwin.]

NO - the spot goes to the highest-ranked loser in the last qualifying round.

Not true.
That's how it works in WTA events. In ITF events it works differently