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That is harsh...
And just because he gave a compliment to my faves, don't mean that I like him, he is still an ass.
And we will see what kind of ratings the final gets, if it is significantly lower than the ones Venus and Serena participited on(which I think it will be), then his comments are justified...
 

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I have a hunch that a Capriati vs. Davenport final will get nearly as much attention as Williams vs. Williams.

Better yet, if SHarapova reached the finals (as long as it was promoted enough), we could see ALOT of first time viewers watching (you know the horny sportscenter guys would talk about how hot she is, and oh yeah she can kinda sorta play;) ).
 

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mboyle said:
I have a hunch that a Capriati vs. Davenport final will get nearly as much attention as Williams vs. Williams.

Better yet, if SHarapova reached the finals (as long as it was promoted enough), we could see ALOT of first time viewers watching (you know the horny sportscenter guys would talk about how hot she is, and oh yeah she can kinda sorta play;) ).
In primetime though??? I just can't picture the whole ceremony thing, and then seeing Capriati and Davenport walk on the court.
 

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Better yet, if SHarapova reached the finals (as long as it was promoted enough), we could see ALOT of first time viewers watching (you know the horny sportscenter guys would talk about how hot she is, and oh yeah she can kinda sorta play;) ).
Sharapova is the new Kournikova, I kid you not. She'd definitely bring in all the old horny men who used to want Anna's ass. (I base this on an overheard conversation in Cincinnati when Anna was declared "old hat" at 22 and traded in for the 14-year-old "new hottie" *shudder*)
 

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I cannot bel. that John would say such a stupid thing. Instead of saying something possitive (like...Kim, Davenport,Jenn, Jusitne will make it a slam to remember...) He comes out and declares it boring before the first ball is hit!

I am sure however, now without the 'warranty' of an all Williams final, the USopen award cer. will be much less 'pro-USA'
 

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Here's the article:

Venus Williams joins sister on sideline for U.S. Open

Web posted Friday, August 22, 2003
By Howard Fendrich | Associated Press
NEW YORK -- Forget an all-Williams final. The U.S. Open will be a no-Williams affair.

Venus Williams joined younger sister Serena on the sideline for the year's last Grand Slam tournament, withdrawing Friday because of the abdominal injury that has bothered her since May. The U.S. Open, which starts Monday, will be the first major without a Williams since the 1997 Australian Open.

It also will be a test for a sport that has benefited from the sisters' on-court skills and off-court popularity.

"It's a shame for the fans. Serena and Venus have been the ones dominating the Slams the last few years," 1998 Open champion Lindsay Davenport said. "It's always exciting, especially for the New York crowd, to have at least one of them there. Now both of them are gone."

Neither has played since Serena beat Venus for the Wimbledon title on July 5, the fifth Williams vs. Williams championship match in the past six Slams, all won by Serena. She pulled out of the U.S. Open on Aug. 1, after left knee surgery, leaving the tournament without either defending singles champion (Pete Sampras is retiring).

Venus, 23, has been in New York, practicing and testing her condition.

"I kept thinking I would be able to compete," she said Friday. "Unfortunately, it just wasn't meant to be. So, with regret, I have to pull out of this tournament and continue my recovery. I'm looking forward to playing again in the fall."

A Williams has won the past four U.S. Opens, with Venus lifting the trophy in 2000-01. When she beat little sis in the 2001 final, it was the first time in 117 years that siblings played for a Grand Slam title and the first time two black players stood at opposite sides of a net to decide a major singles title.

That match also was the first women's Grand Slam final televised at night - and it drew higher ratings than a Top 25 college football game on another network.

"The Williams sisters, not the women's game, are the reason the women's final is in prime time," said four-time U.S. Open champion John McEnroe, now a TV analyst.

Now the question is: Can the sisters withstand the grind of the tour?

Kim Clijsters of Belgium recently replaced Serena at No. 1 in the WTA Tour rankings, despite never having won a major. Clijsters benefits from having played 15 events in 2003, reaching the semifinals at all but one.

In contrast, Serena has played in seven tournaments, Venus six.

So Serena dropped to second in the rankings, while Venus - also a former No. 1 - fell to No. 5, her lowest spot since July 2000.

"Obviously the tour is very disappointed that neither Venus nor Serena is going to play in this year's U.S. Open," WTA Tour spokesman Darrell Fry said. "But from our perspective, Venus and Serena's health comes first, and we want both of them to take as much time as they need to recover from their injuries so they can get back to the tour and play as long as they want to play."

Venus first showed signs of her stomach muscle injury during a clay court tournament in Warsaw, Poland, where she quit during the May 4 final. She curtailed her preparations for the French Open and was upset by Russian teenager Vera Zvonareva in the fourth round - her earliest exit at a major in two years.

Serena, who's 21, also faltered in France, her 33-match Grand Slam winning streak ending in the semifinals against eventual champion Justine Henin-Hardenne.

At Wimbledon, which she also won in 2000-01, Venus looked dominant until the strain flared up during her semifinal against Clijsters. Wincing after serves and doubling over between points, Venus managed to win in three sets.

"As a rule, I never play with pain," she said at the time. "I generally retire immediately. I've never been taught to play with pain. My parents always told us to put the racket in the bag, go off the court."

Bothered by that injury and a bad left leg, Venus was far from top shape for the Wimbledon final. After, she said she felt she had to play because, "Serena and I, we've been blamed for a lot of things." The family drew jeers at a 2001 tournament in California after an injured Venus withdrew before a semifinal against Serena.

So the top-seeded Clijsters and No. 2 Henin-Hardenne move into the roles of U.S. Open favorites, in part because others had recent injuries, too: Davenport (foot), Jennifer Capriati (shoulder), Chanda Rubin (shoulder), Amelie Mauresmo (back).

"The Belgians are still the favorites, but you've got to count on the Americans. We're excited, we want to do well, Jennifer and myself," Davenport said in New Haven, Conn., where she's playing a tuneup tournament.

"It's definitely a lot more wide open."



--From the Saturday, August 23, 2003 online edition of the Augusta Chronicle
 

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I'm totally sure without doubt that 100% of all tickets will be sold for the Ladies' Final. Just because Venus and Serena will not be there does not mean that everyone will stay home. I think there was tennis before the Williams, and I'm fairly confident that there will be tennis after them.

TV viewership will fluctuate, it always does. You can't tell me that if in 2010, if we had to see Williams/Williams Take 15 that as many people would be watching as when it was in its infancy.

Newness is good, as shown by the Williams' themselves. To get a good matchup in the final - contrasting styles, big offcourt story, etc would sell very easily.
 

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The women's final was sold out, but that was because most people were expecting to see a Williams on Final Saturday, but now that it won't be the case, expect to see some empty seats, especially if Kim and Justine are in the final.
 

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I will count all those empty seats and post a full report. I know this will be hard for you to hear.... but not EVERYONE is a fan of Venus and Serena. Perhaps, maybe, just maybe, some Lindsay, Jennifer, international fans bought tickets? Maybe?
 

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Knizzle said:
"The Williams sisters, not the women's game, are the reason the women's final is in prime time," said four-time U.S. Open champion John McEnroe, now a TV analyst."
That's great and that's true.

Except, this isn't the first time it happened in history.

From Lenglen to Wills to Connolly to Gibson to Court to King to Evert to Navratilova to Graf to Hingis... all have enriched the game in some form or another. The game wouldn't be the way it is, without one of them.

But did the game go on in their absence? Sure. And it'll likewise now.

And folks, they're missing one slam, they're not retiring. I hate to think what will happen then. Good Lord! :eek:
 

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I forgot:

I don't often care about TV ratings, seats sold, etc.... but I do know off the top of my head that the 1991 US Open Final - Navratilova/Seles, the 1992 US Open Final - Vicario/Seles, the 1995 US Open Final - Graf/Seles and the 1996 US Open Final - Graf/Seles were all sold out and exactly zero tickets were available.

Others, too, can sell out a stadium.
Thanks.
 

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I will count all those empty seats and post a full report. I know this will be hard for you to hear.... but not EVERYONE is a fan of Venus and Serena. Perhaps, maybe, just maybe, some Lindsay, Jennifer, international fans bought tickets? Maybe?
Silly Seles, of course they didn't. Everyone's running down to the ticketboxes screaming for refunds right now. There is NO US Open this year.
 

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I will count all those empty seats and post a full report. I know this will be hard for you to hear.... but not EVERYONE is a fan of Venus and Serena. Perhaps, maybe, just maybe, some Lindsay, Jennifer, international fans bought tickets? Maybe?
The USTA'd better hope that Lindsay or Jennifer will be in the final. Personally, I think Jennifer can go out before the quarterfinall to possiblyl Maria Sharapova. I really don't think Lindsay can get past Kim umless she starts moving a lot better.
 
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