Poor Justine, what are we to believe now?

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TeeRexx

Discussion Starter · Sep 10, 2003 (Edited)

When Justine raised her hand to stop play at the 2003 Roland Garros semi final to stop play , before worldwide media and fans, and then denied that she performed the well viewed act, we tried to believe her and put the incident off to nerves and excitement.

Now charges of doping are arising since JHH has made sudden stength gains in the last 8-10 months, has a coach who doesn't seem to be beyond breaking ethical standards and once again we are asked to believe the poor little Belgian.

In sports, elite athletes are cinstantly looking for an edge and they may try to accomplish this task legitimately through proper nutrition, physical conditioning and sports psychologist.
But all to often, some unscrupulous athletes will succomb to their desires and those around them to resort to illegal and unethical means in order to obtain undeserved achievements in their particular endeavors.

Well, even though I found the RG escapade of JHH impossible to swallow, I will believe and go along with Justine's denial of these latest charges until her drug test are found to be positive and change my opinion otherwise.

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lizchris

· #2 · Sep 10, 2003

I will believe Justine until evidence proves she did dope.

Someone made the same accusations against Jennifer in 2001 and they proved not to be true.

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Martian KC

· #3 · Sep 10, 2003

Nice to see tee rexx back just in time to discredit the willis biggest threat.

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Infiniti2001

· #4 · Sep 10, 2003

Martian KC said:
Nice to see tee rexx back just in time to discredit the willis biggest threat.

How did he discredit anyone?? Funny how the Williames threat changes with tournaments

:tape:

Well, even though I found the RG escapade of JHH impossible to swallow, I will believe and go along with Justine's denial of these latest charges until her drug test are found to be positive and change my opinion otherwise.

lizchris

· #5 · Sep 10, 2003

Martian KC said:
Nice to see tee rexx back just in time to discredit the willis biggest threat.

A threat (and a small one at tht) maybe for Serena, but not to Venus, who has beaten her seven straight time, including at this year's AO.

Brαm

· #6 · Sep 10, 2003

Tee Rexx said:
When Justine raised her hand to stop play at the 2003 Roland Garros final to stop play

Final? Serena lost in the SEMIS

to stop play
to stop play
to stop play
to stop play

Oops, am I repeating meaningless stuff?

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ico4498

· #7 · Sep 10, 2003

Hi lizchris,

The accusations weren't substantiated .... unfair yes, but its well nigh impossible to disprove.

DA FOREHAND

· #8 · Sep 10, 2003

1-7 6-3 6-3 Where's the threat?

Martian KC said:
Nice to see tee rexx back just in time to discredit the willis biggest threat.

The doping allegations haven't been proven, nor has the quote referenced above.

lizchris

· #9 · Sep 10, 2003

ico4498 said:
Hi lizchris,

The accusations weren't substantiated .... unfair yes, but its well nigh impossible to disprove.

They almost never are.

GoDominique

· #10 · Sep 10, 2003

:zzz:

maria's man

· #11 · Sep 10, 2003

lizchris said:
A threat (and a small one at tht) maybe for Serena, but not to Venus, who has beaten her seven straight time, including at this year's AO.

I'd say she's a threat to both... If she can beat Serena the she's capable of beating Venus...

DA FOREHAND

· #12 · Sep 10, 2003

I'd say you're wrong!

maria's man said:
I'd say she's a threat to both... If she can beat Serena the she's capable of beating Venus...

Venus and Serena have diff. playing styles. Using your logic Monica should never have had such an abismal record against Hingis what is it 5-15? While Graf leads 7-2. Diff players.

Venus beat Justine on clay when she was down, Serena lost to her when she was up?

SJW

· #13 · Sep 10, 2003

maria's man said:
I'd say she's a threat to both... If she can beat Serena the she's capable of beating Venus...

does that wonderous logic work throughout the tennis world? if you beat the best player in the world, you are capable of beating everyone else??

McNabb

· #14 · Sep 10, 2003

If Justine raise her hand to stop play then WHY NOT Serena stop?:shrug:

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Toontje

· #15 · Sep 10, 2003

lizchris said:
I will believe Justine until evidence proves she did dope.

Someone made the same accusations against Jennifer in 2001 and they proved not to be true.

Their is a rumor that Justine did become a converted Jehovah witness.

Maybe she's also afraid from a prick.....like Serena? :haha: :haha:

lizchris

· #16 · Sep 10, 2003

maria's man said:
I'd say she's a threat to both... If she can beat Serena the she's capable of beating Venus...

Venus is 7-1 against Jusitine. Believe me, she is no threat.

Jakeev

· #17 · Sep 10, 2003

TeeRexx said:
When Justine raised her hand to stop play at the 2003 Roland Garros final to stop play , before worldwide media and fans, and then denied that she performed the well viewed act, we tried to believe her and put the incident off to nerves and excitement.

Now charges of doping are arising since JHH has made sudden stength gains in the last 8-10 months, has a coach who doesn't seem to be beyond breaking ethical standards and once again we are asked to believe the poor little Belgian.

Well, even though I found the RG escapade of JHH impossible to swallow, I will believe and go along with Justine's denial of these latest charges until her drug test are found to be positive and change my opinion otherwise.

Got to hand it to TeeRex, he is one of the best bastards of sarcasm on this board....... :lol:

TeeRexx

Discussion Starter · #18 · Sep 10, 2003

How strange.
JHH is suspected of doping herself in order to begin to win and her fans can somehow blame me, VENUS & SERENA and their fans for her woes.

If Justine said she did not dope up, then until the test prove otherwise, we can belive her version of the allegations.

It wasn't like they got the incident on tape like they did at RG. :lol:

clonesheep

· #19 · Sep 10, 2003

Don't spread false rumors like this. There is absolutely no accusation of doping. It was a misinterpreted quote from Leo Clijsters, who said that JHH's arms have grown a lot in only 6 months. Some idiot interpreted it as implications for doping. But the full, unabbreviated quote is completely in a different tone. Leo simply said that JHH overpowered Kim Clijster physically, that Kim has no mental problem in losing the US Open. He also credited JHH's trainer for doing the job of improving her physical condition.

Hope this will settle it.

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maryjane

· #20 · Sep 10, 2003

clonesheep said:
Don't spread false rumors like this. There is absolutely no accusation of doping. It was a misinterpreted quote from Leo Clijsters, who said that JHH's arms have grown a lot in only 6 months. Some idiot interpreted it as implications for doping. But the full, unabbreviated quote is completely in a different tone. Leo simply said that JHH overpowered Kim Clijster physically, that Kim has no mental problem in losing the US Open. He also credited JHH's trainer for doing the job of improving her physical condition.

Hope this will settle it.

i agree with you.that's why i think it's better to stop here this discussion.

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