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Players ranked by GS finals appearances<br />In cases where there was a tie, most wins broke the tie. Checkout where Martina is on this list. Pretty good for a 21 year old.

34 Chris Evert 18-16 (.529)<br />32 Martina Navratilova 18-14 (.563)<br />31 Steffi Graf 22-9 (.710)<br />29 Margaret Smith Court 24-5 (.828)<br />22 Helen Wills Moody 19-3 (.864)

18 Billie Jean King 12-6 (.667)<br />18 Evonne Goolagong 7-11 (.389)

13 Monica Seles 9-4 (.692)

12 Maria Bueno 7-5 (.583)<br />12 A. Sanchez Vicario 4-8 (.333)

11 Martina Hingis 5-6 (.455)

09 Maureen Connolly 9-0 (1.000)

08 Suzanne Lenglen 8-0 (1.000)<br />08 Hana Mandlikova 4-4 (.500)

07 Althea Gibson 5-2 (.714)

05 Alice Marble 5-0 (1.000)<br />05 Venus Williams 4-1 (.750)<br />05 Lindsay Davenport 3-2 (.600)

04 Mary Pierce 2-2 (.500)<br />04 Jana Novotna 1-3 (.250)<br />04 Helena Sukova 0-4 (.000)

03 Virginia Wade 3-0 (1.000)

03 Mima Jausovec 1-2 (.333)<br />03 Conchita Martinez 1-2 (.333)<br />03 Kerry Melville Reid 1-2 (.333)<br />03 Gabriela Sabatini 1-2 (.333)<br />03 Mary Joe Fernandez 0-3 (.000)<br />03 Wendy Turnbull 0-3 (.000)

02 Tracy Austin 2-0 (1.000)<br />02 Jennifer Capriati 2-0 (1.000)<br />02 Serena Williams 1-1 (.500)<br />02 Virginia Ruzici 1-1 (.500)<br />02 Rosie Casals 1-1 (.500)<br />02 Andrea Jaeger 0-2 (.000)<br />02 Olga Morozova 0-2 (.000)

01 Sue Barker 1-0 (1.000)<br />01 Francoise Durr 1-0 (1.000)<br />01 Barbara Jordan 1-0 (1.000)<br />01 Iva Majoli 1-0 (1.000)<br />01 Chris O'Neil 1-0 (1.000)

01 Zina Garrison 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Sylvia Hanika 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Kim Clijsters 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Justine Henin 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Anke Huber 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Kathy Jordan 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Amelie Mauresmo 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Pam Shriver 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Betty Stove 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Nathalie Tauziat 0-1 (.000)<br />01 Natasha Zvereva 0-1 (.000)

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Note: Only one player in the top ten DOESN'T have a GS final appearance. So I would look for Jelena to lose a GS final this year.

Note: Monica lands about where she really belongs in the history of tennis. I'd maybe put her ahead of Goolagong, but the 'BIg Six' are who they are, so Monica would be #7 or #8, all time.

Note: ASV played in an awful lot of GS finals for a player not routinely listed among the greats.

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brick - Actually, i didin't forget, I onlu listed that information to explain how ties were broken. But I can post that stuff for the players I didn't give it for. Noone else has 11 or 13 GS final appearances, so for the purpose of the thread, it didn't matter.
 

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There you go.
 

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I'm suprised that Chrissie beat Martina N. Also in amazement at Steffi's finals won to finals lost ratio. Wow!
 

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graf hardly had any competition. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
 

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Monica will be 17 finals by the end of the year! <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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Actaully, you stumbled over some editing. Rather than rehash all the debate about the value of early 20th Century GS titles, (an arguement I've been through a dozen times) I only listed Open Era players and Players who played against Open era players. And all time greats like Helen Wills Moody and Maureen Connolly ,I couldn't really leave off. They reference points for some people.

(Molla Mallory won 8 GS singles titles. Not sure how many appearances.)

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ARGHH!! 5 of those 8 losses in GS finals of Arantxa came from Steffi Graf!! Think of how Steffi's ratio could have changed...anyways, you can at least share Steffi instead of hogging them all. LOL j/k <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

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poor morozova poor zvereva <img src="graemlins/sad.gif" border="0" alt="[Sad]" />

just 1 win would have been so good!
 

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Steffi did´t have competition??? I think you don´t know what you´re talking about. Her record is amazing. <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
 
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