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Only really Bertens and Konta would fit the mould here - two players who started their careers as relative journey women, and then moved up to be second tier top players.

I don’t see either of them winning multiple slams though.
 

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Kenin won a Slam at 21 - Vika won her first at age 22 and Venus at 20, not a good comparison at all and I don't get why people are bringing her up.

Li would have been a fair comparison to Kerber. Was an upset specialist from age 24 to 28, then quickly blossomed as a consistent top 10 player and Slam winner.
 

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Only really Bertens and Konta would fit the mould here - two players who started their careers as relative journey women, and then moved up to be second tier top players.

I don’t see either of them winning multiple slams though.
I agree . If Konta wins just one slam it will be huge as she was journey women until her mid 20


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I agree . If Konta wins just one slam it will be huge as she was journey women until her mid 20


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It would be huge but it won't be happening. She's had 3 failed go's at semi finals which is better than people quoting Bertens. Additionally she's had unresolved knee problems for the last 15 months which are more likely career ending than anything else.
 

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Li would have been a fair comparison to Kerber. Was an upset specialist from age 24 to 28, then quickly blossomed as a consistent top 10 player and Slam winner.
Agreed, Angie really just took the Li game plan and took it to the next level. Pliskova, Svitolina, Bencic don't seem to me like a good comparisons because I think they've all been expected to win slams.

But as far as current players who might follow suit, Kiki does sound like the best possible option. She's got the Tier Is that Angie doesn't, but she's also done relatively poorly in the slams. Before AO 2016, Angie has reached 10 R16 or later (including two SF). Kiki has been to the R16 four times, including a SF appearance. So I think the overall comparison is pretty apt.

Konta's a good one, too. She's reached three SFs, three other QFs and has won three nice titles. But I don't think she's really considered a major-winning threat.

But I can't see either doing what Angie did—not just win one slam but really go for a full on career trajectory transformation.
 

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Bertens or Konta are only similar possibilities for good comparison to Kerber's career if they would win slams.
Otherwise maybe some of current younger top 30 players could have similar career in future.
 

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Agreed, Angie really just took the Li game plan and took it to the next level. Pliskova, Svitolina, Bencic don't seem to me like a good comparisons because I think they've all been expected to win slams.

But as far as current players who might follow suit, Kiki does sound like the best possible option. She's got the Tier Is that Angie doesn't, but she's also done relatively poorly in the slams. Before AO 2016, Angie has reached 10 R16 or later (including two SF). Kiki has been to the R16 four times, including a SF appearance. So I think the overall comparison is pretty apt.

Konta's a good one, too. She's reached three SFs, three other QFs and has won three nice titles. But I don't think she's really considered a major-winning threat.

But I can't see either doing what Angie did—not just win one slam but really go for a full on career trajectory transformation.
Very few players can do or have done what Angie did in 2016 so I don't think it is the standard to measure other players.


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The player whose record in the Grand Slams matches the early Angie Kerber and could possibly match her later career is Aryna Sabalenka. Sabalenka is 22 soon and in 10 Grand Slams has only got beyond the 2nd round twice.In her first 15 Grand Slams Kerber only got beyond the 2nd round on 2 occasions. Having lost to Laura Robson in the 1st round of Wimbledon in 2011 she then had her Grand Slam breakthrough in the 2011 US Open reaching the semi final at the age of 23. Come Wimbledon 2012 she reached the semi finals beating Sabine Lisicki (who she always beat) in the quarter finals and lost to Radwanska in the semi finals. The following year Lisicki beat Radwanska in the semi finals and made a major contribution to Bartoli to winning Wimbledon. Kerber reached her first Grand Slam final at Australia in 2016 at the age of 27 beating Johanna Konta in the semi finals. At that stage in her career Konta had never reached the semi finals of any WTA tournament. The other 2 players who could match Kerber but maybe are long shots are the French players Caroline Garcia and Kiki Mladenovic who are both 27 this year. Between them they've never done much in Grand Slams.
 

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What about Pavlyuchenkova? Not a late bloomer but she's never been into the top 10. QFs in all slams, but never beyond that stage. A lot of people think of her as an underachiever, so it wouldn't be surprising if she eventually better those stats. I don't think she could win more than one though, she's too inconsistent. Angie, while not a slam threat before her first slam, was one of the most steady top 10 player for years.

I think Konta can win a slam, but I really don't see her as a multiple slam champ either. Also, all her ups and downs already makes her career path different than Kerber's.
 

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What about Pavlyuchenkova? Not a late bloomer but she's never been into the top 10. QFs in all slams, but never beyond that stage. A lot of people think of her as an underachiever, so it wouldn't be surprising if she eventually better those stats. I don't think she could win more than one though, she's too inconsistent. Angie, while not a slam threat before her first slam, was one of the most steady top 10 player for years.

I think Konta can win a slam, but I really don't see her as a multiple slam champ either. Also, all her ups and downs already makes her career path different than Kerber's.
I think Konta's career path is different than Kerber's and is totally unique. You would be hard pressed to name another player like Konta who had 7.25 years as a pro in which they only had 4 weeks in the top 100 and then what followed.. Having then reached the top 50 in October 2015 she has been a fixture in it ever since. Going back to potential Kerber-like careers of which Sabalenka looks a likely candidate other possibles are Alexandrova, Jabeur,Sakkari,Siniakova,Van Uytvanck and Vekic. These may be far fetched but you never know.
 

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I actually thought of Vekic, too. If she can steady her ship and get into the top 10 for like 2-3 years where she's establishing a solid career and then maturing into a slam winner and #1? It's not totally outside the realm of possibility.
 

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Myskina was the first player to do this. She was a perennial top ten player who was not known for winning big titles. She had the hardest draw at the 2004 French Open and overcame it to win the slam. Then Na Li blossomed into a grand slam champ. Then Kerber. And the future will be Alize Cornut
 

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Pretty much every new slam winner in recent years has been an explosive mover. It seems like this is the direction the game is headed now: someone like Vekic probably isn't naturally athletic enough to win more than one slam.
 

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Myskina was the first player to do this. She was a perennial top ten player who was not known for winning big titles. She had the hardest draw at the 2004 French Open and overcame it to win the slam. Then Na Li blossomed into a grand slam champ. Then Kerber. And the future will be Alize Cornut
No I think not Alize Cornet even if she did once beat Serena at Wimbledon. The record she holds amongst active players is the most Grand Slam appearances i.e 56 without reaching a Grand Slam quarter final. I think the likes of Garcia, Mladenovic or Ferro have more potential for doing a Kerber.
 
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