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This is a thread for the PAW Board, where PAW Players will be able to ask question/propose ideas.



1. New Rules/Rule Changes

The process for changing/implement rules is as follows:

1) A new rule or rule change is proposed.
-This can be done in this thread, in a tournament thread, or directly to a Board member.

2) The rule is opened to discussion for all PAW players.
-This can be done in this thread, in a new thread in the PAW forum, or through a Poll/thread in the PAW Forum.

3) After a time for discussion, the PAW Board makes a decision.
-The PAW Board takes into consideration all opinions in the discussion (#2), as well as their own ideas as PAW Managers, veterans, and Board members
-The PAW Board can make this decision through discussion, or a simple straw vote (majority rules)

4) The final decision is posted here.

5) If necessary, the discussion can be re-opened before the next PAW season.
-Generally speaking, new rules and rule changes are only made during the off-season, but can be discussed each off-season to keep the game current.



2. Issues Throughout the Season

For disputes, disagreements, or other issues (such as discipline, rule breaking, etc), the above procedure can be followed. However, if a "fast" decision (such as a disciplinary issue or something needing to be resolved in the moment) is needed, only steps #3 and #4 above should be followed, with the board holding a vote and making a decision.



3. Choosing Members for the PAW Board

Generally speaking, PAW Board Members serve for an entire season. In the Off-Season, there should be a discussion about whether to keep the PAW Board, or make changes moving into the new season. As always, PAW players should be nominated/discussed in an open setting in the PAW forum so that all players can comment and discuss; then, the PAW Board makes the final decision on who to nominate and approve for the Board.

For forcible removal of a PAW Board member, there should be a discussion amongst PAW Players and the Board, with the Board ultimately voting on whether or not to remove the member.

If a PAW Board member is removed or voluntarily steps down mid-season, the PAW Board can choose to immediately fill the spot, or wait until the off-season.



2018 PAW Board Members
@twight6
@CharlDa
@Buitenzorg
@pedropt
@kondrashov




Please let me know if I missed anything. Feel free to bring up any issues or problems in this thread. We have already discussed and finalized New Rules/Changes for the 2018 Season, so this thread should just be used for resolving issues or looking forward to 2019.

Thanks everyone :)
 

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Overview of Discussion of Proposed New Rules/Changes during 2017-2018 Off-Season

At the end of the 2017 season, PAW Players identified five (5) issues to be discussed during the off-season, in order to make changes for the 2018 season. These were:
1) Filling Board Positions
2) Commitments/Tournament minimums
3) Scoring points for unranked/protected ranking players
4) 125k Tournaments
5) Ranking Points


Below is a general overview of the discussion, as well as the resolution from the PAW Board, for each of the above.


1) Filling Board Positions
To end the 2017 season, there were three Board members: Buitenzorg, kondrashov, and pedropt. It was suggested to nominate two new members to have a 5-person Board for the 2018 season. It was suggested by current Board member Buitenzorg to nominate twight6 and CharlDa to the board. A new thread was created to discuss this, and several PAW players posted their agreement with the nomination.

By a vote of 3-0, twight6 and CharlDa were nominated to the Board.



2) Commitment/Tournament Minimums
One issue that we ran into in 2017 was having smaller tournaments with too few players. A discussion was started about what the tournament minimum should be, how to ensure we get that minimum, and what to do if the minimum is not reached. In 2017, commitment Polls were posted in the PAW forum, where players could "vote" for their interest. These polls were not entirely effective, however, as there were still tournaments started and canceled due to lack of participation.

After a general discussion, a Poll was created to help address this issue. The response was generally mixed, but it was clear (14-4 vote) that players wanted to do multiple tournaments each week, rather than just playing one. Using this thread as a guide, the PAW Board discussed and voted on this issue.

By a 4-0 vote, it was decided to allow players to post picks or say "in" in the tournament thread as a form of commitment. If there were not at least 8 players at the end of DAY01, the tournament would be canceled. In addition, players would be allowed to post "just in case" picks in the other tournament thread; these would only be counted if their first choice tournament was canceled after DAY01.



3) Scoring Points for Unranked/Protected Rank Players
In 2017, with the return of players like Petra Kvitova, Sloane Stephens, and Maria Sharapova--and with the potential to have more, like Serena Williams, in 2018--there was a discussion about whether it was fair to use "40" as the Ranking Point minimum, assigning this number to players who hold fewer ranking points than that. "40" has been used as the minimum for years, but it has the potential to create very large Scoring Points, awarding 100+ points for picking players with no or protected rankings.

A Poll was created to discuss this issue, which proposed multiple options for how to change the rules. After a week of voting, 9 PAW Players voted for "keep it the same," while 8 voted for one of the different rule changes. This issue was then discussed by the Board.

By a 4-0 vote, it was decided to keep this rule the same and continue to use "40" as the minimum for ranking points. The Board agreed that this issue should be looked at again in the future, but that there would need to be (at the very least) a majority vote in favor of change before the Board would make any changes.



4) 125k Tournaments
It was suggested that we played 125k Tournaments in 2018. A Poll was created to address this issue, with PAW Players voting on whether to play 125k tournaments in the off-season, in both the off-season and during grand slams, or not at all. 12 PAW Players voted "no," while 7 voted "yes" to playing 125k Tournaments.

By a 3-1 vote, it was agreed to play a few 125k Tournaments during the 2018 Off-Season but as exhibitions, and only if we can find a manager willing to run them. This might generate interest to hold them more regularly in 2018, but if not, it will at least give us more to do during the off-season!



5) Ranking Points
During the last season, it was brought up that it can create an issue with Ranking Points if there are only a few people playing in a tournament. Kondrashov has designed ranking points that take into account the number of players, but it was also suggested that this method is confusing with no clear "Table" to be posted each week. Kondrashov suggested that he would be willing to make changes if any were suggested; however, throughout the Off-Season discussion, there was not enough input to make any clear decisions moving forward.

Ranking Points will continue as is, but further suggestions are welcome.
 

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Effective immediately, I will no longer be playing PAW, or active on TF at all. This is due to personal reasons, as I will not have internet access after Wednesday of this week.
@CharlDa
@pedropt
@Buitenzorg
@kondrashov

Thank you guys for your work, hopefully you can carry on without me ;) kondrashov you can give my YEC spot to the first alternate!

Thanks also to @Power Shot for always running tournaments (even if we didn’t always see eye-to-eye).

Thanks to everyone :hug: good luck in your game and real lives ;)
 

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any changes for 2019? I mean - commitments - i think if we have 6-8 players we can run event? What do you think?
 
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