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I know I can't compare to the incredible reports of Corswandt :worship:, but during the days I will go to Estoril Open (until Wednesday) I will post small reports from the matches I saw each day.
 

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Saturday, 23rd April 2011

3h30 delay before the matches started due to rain :zzz: and another rain delay after 30mins of play for an hour was certainly an awful start for this year's Estoril Open. After rain, cold and very windy stayed for the rest of the day.

Heather Watson def. Karolina Sprem 16 63 30 ret.

"Great win" - quoting some british fans who were there. It's really a "great win" when you are so talented to make your opponent retire during a match.

First of all, congratulations to Miss Heather Watson! The first player I've ever saw to win a 3 set match (2 sets and a half rather) with only ONE winner all match! British tennis is saved!! So as WTA!! :worship:

I've never saw Heather play, except a couple of games against Oprandi last year at Wimbledon, and I wish I could stay the same. This girl has absolutelly nothing new or impressive to the game. Before the rain appeared again (until 16 02) she was being blasted and murdered on court by Karolina's power and precise shots, being Heather's FH a huge target point of the croation attacks, since Heather's FH is even more useless than some pretty blonde girl who flies on Turkish Airlines. I'm sure Heather and the pretty blonde girl share the same airplane company, because after the match was resumed, Heather played just like her, she took a few steps back, allowed more time to retrieve Karolina's shots and started mooballing a couple of times. From this point on, Heather was able to retrieve most of Sprem's shots and wait for errors until the match is over. Oh, and the ONLY amazing winner whe hit, was at 16 33, she makes a short defensive slice FH, Karolina makes the approach shot that clips the net, allowing Heather to have all the time in the world to make a CC BH lob. Amazing, isn't it?

I hope Miss Heather Watson can play better than this, because as british girl, she can't be just a defender (aka pusher).

Cheering for Karolina's wrist to heal very soon.

Katarzyna Piter def. Stefanie Voegele 64 26 61

I got there at 64 25* and Voegele finished the set easily. Expecting Voegele would win this in 3, giving each player's career, turned out to be Katarzyna who played better. Very few UE, defensive skills' good enough to read and return Voegele's attacks, and time to time punish Voegele's weak 2nd serve with BH return winners DTL were enough for a set with no major troubles for the polish, who has a weird FH technique, but then again, looking at her opponent's FH (which is very harmless), I'm sure she almost felt proud of it. Despite this win, I'm sure won't go very far in the rankings, unless something changes dramatically in her game. With a smart schedule (aka playing 25k and 50k, mixing with some weak WTA - Tashkent or Baku, hint hint), she should make the top100 someday (I have no idea what's her raking right now).

Arina Rodionova def. Petra Martic 61 61

Not much to say about this. sArina is much better than the last time I saw her play (2008 Estoril Open): decent serve, flat strokes with pace, her defensive/moonball skills are the same she had back in 2008 and her attitude is opposite of her sister - she tried to calm down herself when she made some stupid error. Martic defense is non-existence, her shot selection was atrocious (losing the match with a drop shot to the bottom of the net) and her serve was inconsistent. You can see the power and strokes are there, she's more powerfull and precise than Arina, but her attitude and brains aren't/weren't not today. I'm sure this is not a sign for the rest of the year, because she's likeable to watch.

Valeria Savinykh def. Rita Vilaça 60 61

Arrived there at *50 for Valeria, and again not much to say about this. I actually surprised with Rita Vilaça, I thought she would be worse. She seems a lesser version of other portuguese players: her serve and FH reminds Frederica Piedade and her BH Maria João Koehler (which is not a compliment, since MJK BH is very shaky, unlike her FH).

It's difficult to evaluate Valeria's level, since she did just enough to win it easily. I can say she seems to struggle with high loopy balls to her FH (a netted FH of this kind gave Vilaça's that game), but then again, who doesn't nowadays?

Let's wait for tougher opposition to evaluate her game better, which should happen tomorrow.

Sloane Stephens def. Ana Clara Duarte 63 62

Ana Clara Duarte hits top spinned ball, with no power at all, but she can be consistent from the baseline, which is what it matters on clay anyway. Her BH slice troubled Sloane for a set and a half, until Sloane figured out how to attack it (I guess the windy conditions troubled her too). Sloane has a big FH and nice serve, but she got nervous after Ana Clara won her 1st game at 5-0; the brazilian broke Sloane's serve and the american got doubts in her head. A very nervous play from her that Ana Clara didn't take advantage, despite having a 15-30 at 3-5*, eventually won her the set, since Ana Clara couldn't trouble Sloane much from the baseline. 2nd set was much better play from both, with the brazilian girl having a BP at 1-0*, couldn't convert and Sloane raced to a 3 game streak with some agressive play from her FH mainly (a nice CC BH gave her the BP tough). She controled the match from that point, even if Ana Clara fought off 3 BPs at *2-4 with 2 CC FH winners on the corner and a CC BH on the line.

After the match, we talked to Sloane a little bit, she appreciated our support and asked us from where we were from. She lives in LA now. Very nice girl!!

Sunday, 24th April 2011

Shengan Sun def. Patricia Martins 63 62

A lots of BPs wasted by the portuguese WC who troubled Sun a lot with her loopy/moonballed shots for the first games. After Sun figured it out what to do, she took a few steps closer to the baseline and tried to get those on the rise (which wasn't that hard sometimes, since Patricia shots landed in the service line several times), with relative success. Sun's game is totally not suitable for clay at all. Everything is flat and she doesn't know how to deal with spin behind the baseline. In the 2nd set, she had some flashy FH winners tough, some from weak 2nd serves. BTW, she's a lefy, I had no idea.

Patricia is actually a decent mover, reasonable 1st serve, if she can develop any kind of counterpunching skills she can become a decent ITF player. She had 7 winners in the match, a famous one was a moonball FH winner, which Sun thought it went OUT and argued with the chair umpire.

After watching this, I knew Sun would be an easy 2nd round for whoever would be her opponent next.

Tamira Paszek def. Laura Siegemund 75 64

I watched the 1st set, and got surprised how well Laura was playing until 5-2. She was reading Tamira's game like a book, getting everything back with depth, spin and sometimes power (even on the FH side) and mixed with some FH drop shots from time to time. Then again, Tamira's shots were only 3/4 of the court, allowing Laura to handled them well. Tamira got Larri Passos on court for coaching at 1-4 and she improved. Her shots started to have more depth, many were near the lines and surprisingly, she was attacking Laura's BH. When serving for the set at *5-3, Laura tried to be agressive, beating Tamira on her own game, which was a big mistake, because Tamira likes pace, rythim, not boring spin shots, so she took control of the set and eventually won it. I was expecting a much easier 2nd set tough, I wonder what Laura did to win 4 games.

Eleni Daniilidou vs Alexandra Panova 75 67 75

I saw the 3rd set from 2-2. High quality for a qualifying match. They were both very tired, but hitting a lot of winners. I wasn't paying many attention since I was talking to other people, but every point was a hard battle. If Panova had any decent net game, she could have won a couple of important points and maybe the match. She just couldn't finish off points when she had the chance. Eleni was very nice at the end of the match.

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Okay, this is former poster LudwigDvorak posting about details of this match. I watched almost all of the last two sets and the end of the first. Almost the entire time I kept questioning Eleni's fitness and ability to actually take control of this match, mainly due to her inability of reaching all of Panova's shots and of course her own age and fitness level. It was especially true in the second match she played today, but she had to pick and choose which points she wanted to fight for, because if she had fought for everything or done more running she would have lost. I felt for nearly the entire match it was in Panova's hands, but she isn't of an excellent fitness level either, and she seemed to be cramping and having fitness issues at the very end. In truth, neither could really ever go on a streak because they were both tired and doing so much running in the last set.

Most of the match was very well played and well fought, lots of winners well built points. Daniilidou, I thought, I was playing dumbly by hitting too much to Panova's backhand which is stronger, but she was able to hit through it and behind Panova often enough. I think she would have won easier had she targeted more to the Panova FH, but it worked in the end. Both players gave it their all, fighting, and I remember a huge scream from Daniilidou near the end of the third as she approached winning. I was extremely impressed by her pinache, and everyone says she is this junkballing slice machine joke, but I saw her hit through lots of FHs, and yes, though she slices, she does stuff with her slice. It's not like she just lobs and junkballs and does nothing. Actually,had she hit more moonballs she could have offset Panova even more, because she really struggled with the few moonballs Daniilidoudid hit.It is a shame she can't move a bit better on this surface, and probably against a Govortsova she would get blown off the court, but she was perfect in her execution. By the way, she has an incredible drop shot and her finesse is by far the best I have seen in Estoril so far. This was the best match of the tournament so far, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the entire week.
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Sesil Karatantcheva def. Elena Bogdan 63 76(1)

Got there at 63 32. Elena Bogdan is an agressive lefty player with a decent serve. She bossed around most of the rallies on her serve, with relative success, not missing much and making the occasional 2 handed BH drop shot winner. Her return sucks tough, but somehow she was serving for the set at *6-5. HUGE meltdown LIVE on court 4. UEs from everywhere until the final error, gave Sesil the win, just being consistent. Her BH is so well timed, she has such great control on it. We talked to her at the end, she's so friendly and when asked about playing against Rus, she answers "That's going to be a pain in the butt" :lol:

Sloane Stephens def. Madison Brengle 62 63

Of course, the supporting duo was there to cheer for Sloane!!! :cheer:

After she got the break at the first game with a netted BH from Madison, we clapped and Madison looked at us very pissed :eek:h: That girl was so upset all match, mostly with herself. WIth no wind today, Sloane's game was much more clean and likeable to watch. Her BH was better,she is very consistent oh that shot, rarely missed any BH, even on defensive position. She built a quick 4-0 lead, winning the set pretty easily, with an upset error prone Brengle. That was the way it started, with a gifted game from Brengle, to give Sloane a 62 *10 lead. WIth nothing to lose, Brengle finally released all that bad attitude and the next 2 games (which she won) were amazing hitting from both with winners coming every point. Brengle decided to start atacking Sloane's FH, and in the game she broke Sloane to 62 11, she hit 4 winners on the right corner - 3 BH and 1 FH - 2 of them on return of serve. Sloane herself was getting some FH angled shots, getting the short ball to finish off with a smash or a massive FH near the net. Brengle's BH seems pretty flat and powerfull, but she was so inconsistent today. After Sloane got broken again to 62 13* (with 4 UEs :tape:), Brengle was kind enough to do the same and gift the break back. When Madison had nothing to lose, she played very well; once she got on a winning position, her game fell apart, and the errors came back. Was basically Sloane's hard consistent shots and Brengle's brain dead shots who gave the last games to Sloane and an apparently easy 62 63 win, that could have been tighter, had Brengle any kind of good attitude on court.

Some Madison comments during the match:

"What? Really?! Really?! That's really really shocking!! - ater missing a BH on the 2nd game of the match

"I can't make 2 in a row" - another BH error

"Sweet Jesus" - another error

"I'm so uncoordenated, it's scary!" - after she got broken in the first game of the 2nd set

"It's not worth it, really" - BH DTL UE in the middle of the 2nd set

Eleni Daniilidou def. Shegnan Sun 64 62

Arrived there at 3-2 for Sun and from that game on Daniilidou just dominated the rest of the match. Even if clay is not her best surface due to her poor defensive skills, her game totally suits the surface: spinned FH, okay serve, BH slices or drop shots, good net skills. Basically, during the match, Eleni did everything she wanted with the ball: she toyed with Sun's 2nd serve, making BH drop shots winners on returns; agressive FH from every point of the court, since on clay she can run around her BH pretty easily, despite being a slow mover; deep slices mixed with some short ones, always letting Sun in doubt of where exactly the ball would land on court; time to time, some net rush to finish with a drop shot or a deep slice, when Sun tried to call her to the net with some drop shot attempt. Pretty solid performance from Eleni Daniilidou, who is one of the few players who can actually do everything on a tennis court.

Sesil Karatantcheva def. Arantxa Rus 57 64 62

"Rus Horror Picture Show"

I've never seen such a comical set in tennis like that 3rd set. Not even in exhos you get such a laughable play.

Got there when Sesil was serving at *5-6, and a bunch of UEs gifted the set to Rus. At the beginning of the 2nd set it seemed Arantxa would get a straight sets wins when she got the BP at 7-5 1-0* ad Sesil wasn't being able to pass Rus on the baseline. She somehow held and found a way to bother the dutch on the baseline rallies: the FH DTL. Sesil tried to do it time to time, even with not much pace, with high success, because Rus was always expecting CC and she's not a fast mover. She broke Rus' serve at 2-2, helding easily until she serve for the set. Rus' saved 2 SPs (FH DTL winner, her best shot, and BH CC winner), but missed the return on the 3rd SP. 2nd set was entertaining, Sesil tried to move Rus when she could, with some angled CC BH, CC FH and then apply that mentioned FH DTL. Rus, sometimes late to the ball, she tried to blast her FH DTL with relative success during the set.

3rd set: as bad as it gets. IIRC, Rus held serve to love, Sesil held too and after that the comic play begins. Somehow, Rus was getting late to the ball, which is pretty hard since Sesil wasn't hitting with any kind of pace. Most of Sesil's BH were to middle or CC angled inside the service square, but in almost slow motion. I guess she figured it out her opponent was getting tired and she was just consistent. From this point on, Arantxa started to lose the patient after each game and as deeper the match got, more blasting FHs she tried, this time with very few success. Her first serve was being missed by miles too. At 7-5 4-6 *2-4, it was the low point of this. Sesil made 2 BH winners (she only had 3 in the 3rd set, the other was an ace) to get to 0-40, but a "I don't give a shit about this anymore" Rus saved those 3 BPs: good 1st serve, blasting FH inside out winner; awful footwork form Rus, she made FH slice followed by a FH frame dinky shot that Sesil couldn't get it back; missed return from Sesil. Rus had a GP, that wasted with an UE and on deuce, Sesil makes a short BH on the service square to the middle of the court, but Rus didn't move her feet and her FH almost went to the middle of the net. In that tight game, she had 2/3 shots that almost were to the bottom of the net. It was pretty awful. Of course, Sesil hold serve after it and won the match. She thanked our support from the crowd waving her hand (the only ones who were supporting her; there was 4teenagers who were cheering for Rus that the umpire told them to shut up during the points :eek:h:).
 

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Klina :lol: She is so talented but also so brainless. :eek:

Thanks for the reports :yeah: I wish I could go there :sad:
 

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I think Martic is a talented player but I don't think she's found her niche yet. I've seen matches where she's tried to be really aggressive (US Open vs. Wozniacki) and I've seen her play incredibly passively (Marbella vs. Cabeza Candela last year) and I've seen her play some really well as a counterpuncher (vs. Wickmayer at the Paris Indoors.)
 

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I think Martic is a talented player but I don't think she's found her niche yet. I've seen matches where she's tried to be really aggressive (US Open vs. Wozniacki) and I've seen her play incredibly passively (Marbella vs. Cabeza Candela last year) and I've seen her play some really well as a counterpuncher (vs. Wickmayer at the Paris Indoors.)
The only times I saw her play before was against Kimiko last year in Estoril and against Dementieva in RG. I don't what type of player she is or she wants to be, but by now, and since she already was a top100 player and won strong ITFs, she should have discovered by now.
 

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Sesil really is so friendly and funny. Very likable girl. That quote of hers is typical of her humorous frankness.
 

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Harsh about poor Heather. :eek: I think she's a wonderful player from the bits I've seen of her.
 

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Thanks for the reports :yeah:

Are you sure it was Passos who coached Tamira? :eek: Her did looks quite similar to him. :shrug:
 

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Of course I'm not gonna be too concerned if you're comparing her to the pretty blonde girl who flies with Turkish Airlines, because saying she plays like the world No.1 is surely a good thing!!
 

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Thanks for the reports :yeah:

Are you sure it was Passos who coached Tamira? :eek: Her did looks quite similar to him. :shrug:
It's the guy who appears here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXHMX2KWl88

I always thought it was Larri Passos :confused:

Of course I'm not gonna be too concerned if you're comparing her to the pretty blonde girl who flies with Turkish Airlines, because saying she plays like the world No.1 is surely a good thing!!
I never said it was a bad thing! I say I don't like it and it's boring, but for sure it's the way to play on clay against someone like Sprem. It worked perfectly. Apparently, she was slightly better today against Piter from some comments I heard. I will watch her again tomorrow against Paszek.
 

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It's the guy who appears here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXHMX2KWl88

I always thought it was Larri Passos :confused:
I think that is her dad aswell, but I'm not sure. They look very similar. :tape:
It would be a big surprise for me to see Passos coaching Tamira at a tournament, so I guess the one you saw was her dad aswell. :lol:
 

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I think that is her dad aswell, but I'm not sure. They look very similar. :tape:
It would be a big surprise for me to see Passos coaching Tamira at a tournament, so I guess the one you saw was her dad aswell. :lol:
I guess I can ask her today, if I see her around off the tennis court.
 

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Thanks for the report :hug:

BTW that's her father in the vid, not Larri ;)
 

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Monday, 25th April 2011

Tamira Paszek def. Heather Watson 60 63

Ball striking wise, I was more impressed with Heather today. She had some nice winners, she tried to work out the point better, doing some angled shots, countering mainly with her BH DTL, which worked most of the times she tried. Even if the score seems like a beatdown, it was far from it. Many games went to deuce, but most of them went to Paszek. I can say the experience of playing on WTA level really prevailed. Paszek never missed a shot, unless forced to, on a game or break point to Watson. She saved some BP/GP with gutsy shots on the lines (BH DTL winners) or even FH drop shots. The only time Tamira showed any sign of sloppiness was when she was broken to 2-2 in the 2nd set, gifting that game with a couple of lame UEs. She regrouped and broke back immediately. After Tamira held to 6-0 4-2, Heather tried to be aggressive, generate her own pace instead of using Tamira's to counterpunch. She got 2 BPs on Tamira's serve at 6-0 4-3, but as I said, Tamira didn't give Watson a chance with a unreturnable slice serve and aggressive play from the baseline. Watson pratically handled the match with some desperate attemps to hit winners from the baseline with no success: netted FH and wide out BH DTL. Overall, I think Miss Heather Watson tried everything that her game allows: she tried to moonball, but Tamira has probably the best counter moonball on Tour (always on the corner of the court with actual pace, which troubled Heather); she tried to stay in rallies with Paszek, that actually worked for most of the match, since it's her natural game, she was just unlucky (and gutsy play from Tamira) on her chances to win games; aggressive, going for the winner shots at the end, with relativelly low success. That's the main issue that can hold back Watson in her progression: if she plays someone with such a clean strike, good pace and decent movement, she will always be dependable on what the opponent will do, especially on a slow surface, since she can't easily hit winners to get her the important points.

Tamira was very happy with the win and I wish her good luck tomorrow.

Sloane Stephens def. Valeria Savinykh 61 62

Very consistent performance by Sloane. I could say she defeated Valeria in her own game: exchanging baseline rallies with no stupid risky shots and when a chance pops up, try to attack and finish the point. Sloane defense is better on her left side than to her right side, sometimes she gets herself out of position when moving to the right, maaybe because she mostly expects her BH to be attacked, since her FH is more agressive. She can use it to move her oppoenent around the court, especially with some angled CC FH that she rarely misses, getting the short ball and finishing with a FH DTL winner. Altough, a couple of times, she isn't conclusive enough inside the court (she doesn't hit drive volleys, always lets the ball bounce, giving time to her oppoent) and founds herself rallying again after the opponent hits a defensive moonball. Valeria tried to change something after the 1st set, more aggressive, some nice DTL winners from both side and she had a couple of GP/BPs here and there, but Sloane (like she has beem doing during all her matches) doesn't crumble under pressure and usually plays very well on those crucial points. She's always very calm and motivates herself during the points, unlike either Madison Brengle or Valeria, whom show many negative emotions on court.
I think Sloane has a chance against Melanie Oudin (from who I got an autograph today, when we were watching Paszek vs Watson :)), as long she can deal with Melanie's slice and tried to come forward to finish off her short balls or even with volleys, not letting Melanie get back in the rallies.

Beatriz Garcia-Vidagany def. Sesil Karatantcheva 46 64 63

Disappointed with the outcome of this match, but predictable in the end. BGV started the match with a bunch of UEs giving Sesil a 4-1* 0-40 lead in what it seemed to be an easy set. Then, the spaniard found her range, cut the UEs (which only came back when serving to stay in the set at 5-4*) and tried to dominate the points most of the times. For a girl of her size, she sure can generate flat pace shots, easy to put Sesil on defensive even on clay. Then again, Sesil was always there to retrieve them with a moonball FH allowing her to get back in the rally. Sesil's serve totally disappeared in the middle of the 2nd set, she made her 1st serve like Pin's 2nd serve, which had an explanation that she told us after the match: she injured her right should yesterday, but she said "what can I do now?", accepting the loss. Most of the 3rd set consisted on Sesil giving the control of the rallies to BGV, waiting for the spaniard UE, which it was enough until 3-3. Then, BGV was all over Sesil's serve, hitting huge return winners and getting herself into a winning position she never let it go. Oh, at this point, the spaniard was having some pain in her right hip, which make her to go for shorter points, with high success. She finished the match with 2 return winners on the last game.

We talked with Sesil at the end, she said she will come back to Estoril next year, she gave us a hand shake and she said she's going home now.

Romina Oprandi :hearts: def. Jie Zheng 64 62

Got there at 6-4 2-0 for Oprandi. For a overweight girl, Romina sure can somehow defend on court, mostly because it's a slow surface and she plays way far behind the baseline. Her defense consist in slices and the occasional top spinned deep shot that basically got Zheng out of position and put Oprandi back in play. This italian girl had everything she would like today: short opponent, with flat mid-pace non-suitable clay shots and a weak serve. So, she toyed with Zheng around the court with slices, drop shots and lobs - there was a point that Romina's shot selection was: drop shot, lob, top spinned FH, drop shot, lob. 3 BH drop shot returns gave Oprandi the break to 6-4 5-2 and a chance to serve it out. She eventually did with a unreturnable serve. Zheng was mostly clueless all the time, not knowing what to do out there. She tried in the end to wrongfoot Oprandi with early shots immediately after the bounce, which worked a couple of times, but it was too late. If Romina cares enough, she can actually have a deep run here, since she knows how to play on the surface and use it to her advantage, unlike most of the players in the draw.

Elena Vesnina def. Barbara Luz 61 61

What can I say? I saw from 4-1 until the end. Vesnina was in practice mode, hitting hard and deep every shot, even to the middle, and easily forcing the error or the short ball from Luz. A couple of drop shots here and there and some BH angled return winners, were enough to not get into long ass top spinned rallies with Luz. The portuguese girl has a decent serve (she had an ace), but the rest of her game is kind of hard to evaluate, since the rallies were very short. Vesnina pumped the crowd with a gifted game with 4 UEs at the begining of the 2nd set, giving hopes to the portuguese nation :)oh:) but 15 mins later she finished the match with a deep return that forced the error from Luz. I said to her "Please, win the tournament" and she replied with a smile "I will try".
 

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Thanks for the report :hug:

BTW that's her father in the vid, not Larri ;)
I know that now after googling some pictures, but thanks. Altough Larri Passos was there today watching Tamira during a couple of games.
 

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any reports on Lee-Waters or Moulton-Levy would be appreciated :)
 
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