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Monica's been cleaning up in smaller tournaments. Kim looked like she'd beat Lindsay for sure at Sanex. And looked like Lleyton Hewitt playing Pete Sampras in the process. The girl is READY.

If they played today, who would win?
 

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Hmmm tough choice. Kim is ranked higher and is in great form but on the other hand, Monica does always very well against does young, upcoming players. She never lost to Kim, Justine, Jelena, etc...

On clay and hardcourts I'd pick Monica and on grass and indoors Kim. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
 

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Monica <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

They played once in Australia earlier in the year and Seles won 7-6, 6-0. Seles is in much better shape now then she was in Australia. I can't say the match would be easy for either player but I think Seles has the grit to pull it out.

[ November 05, 2001: Message edited by: GoMonica ]</p>
 

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I would think Monica would win... I think Kim isn't familiar with Monica's style of play... <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
 

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At Sanex vs Lindsay, Kim Clijsters was the predator, and Lindsay was the prey. She was playing a high level tennis at a VERY fast pace. Lindsay was looking quite pressed. But Kim's serve, or more likely her nerve, let her down in the third set tie-breaker.

Kim still has her service problems a week later. But Monica isn't as good as Lindsay.

If, Kim plays the way she did Lindsay, and Monica plays as she did against Serena in Torornto, Kim would win in straight sets. In terms of agressive athleticism, Serena is the only player to really compare Kim to.
 

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I cannot agree with you, Volcana. Monica would win. You said that Monica isn't as good as Lindsay is. I will disagree. At the estyle.com event, Monica played three 3 set matches against Testud, Hingis, and Serena Williams. One of those matches had been the night before the final, which was early the next morning. Monica was clearly exhausted, but still put up a spectacular fight against Lindsay. A fresh Monica would beat Lindsay and Kim Clijsters. Hell, a fresh Monica could probably beat Serena too. Venus is a different story, but you get my point.
 

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To say "Monica isn't as good as Lindsay" is a horrifically minimalist analysis. Monica does better against some players than Lindsay does, because head to heads aren't about who has the most ranking points or who does better against common opponents. Monica vs Kim is Monica vs Kim. It's not Kim vs Lindsay and its not Monica vs Lindsay.

Having said that, Kim is probably the most even match for Monica on tour right now, but I would put my cash on Monica.
 

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to add to what's been said already, you can't compare Kim vs. Lindsay this week to how she would fare against Monica, because the Lindsay of this week is tired, warn down, and far from fresh. She looked even slower than usual. If Lindsay were fresh, the score wouldn't have been so close. Kim might be able to play Monica close, but Monica would still win in the end, because of her consistency in ground strokes and her mental toughness. Kim has gotten better, but she's still not better than Monica.
 

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Its really tough to say. Monica has played really well all summer and the asian circuit. Kim has really had a break out year this year, and well its really tough to gauge where they are in relationship to each other.

The Hopman Cup match I think really is no indicator since both are totally different players now. And both are in totally different forms.

I'm glad to see Monica playing really well and it looks like she might have another Grand Slam run.

I don't think we can say who will win on hardcourts. I would though give the edge on clay to Monica, but probably an edge to Kim on grass and indoor.
 
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