[pattyclijsters]

It is not uncommon that good doubles players dont reach the same level in singles. And both are somewhat successfull in singles.

I follow their results, but dont watch them play.

• Are they too slow for singles?
• is doubles more different from singles than i think?
• are they the "weak" link in their doubles?
• do they have difficulties finding a good strategy for winning on their own?
• not good at net/not good on the baseline?

🤔🧐🤷

Any insight is appreciated!

Bonus: Why did Siniakova decide to beat Clijsters?! 🥳

 

[Aganim]

Mladenovic was a top 10 singles player, I doubt she is considered "bad". Her actual ranking was higher than for example Gauff, Anisimova, Rybakina, Kudermetova, or Potapova.

 

[Perun]

They both used to be much better in singles then they are now.

Mladenovic has always been limited by ultimately subpar movement and wonky backhand. Somehow was able to circumvent around it and had a couple of very good consecutive months in 2017, but back then struck the ball more cleanly, serve was a weapon unlike it is now (a lot of double faults for instance) and was not dumping random putaways into the net like she like she likes to do for a while, she was in right time to dictate points with her forehand. CHR is #10 from 2017, I don't see her ever getting close to it tbh. She's just past her peak. And I do remember that even though this ranking was on the back of some good results (like Madrid PM F, St. Petersburg W) it also simultaneously happened to arrive in the middle of her infamous losing streak. (it was like 15 matches in a row spanning to 2018 season!) WTA This period was an-all time for the WTA if you ask me. I don't remember a worse period since I started following WTA in 2000s.


And I think Siniakova is too crazy for singles, the presence of the doubles partner calms her down, she's more focused and less nervous. I had much bigger hopes for her in singles though, but I believe she's still young enough to turn it around. She has a tendency to choke.

I saw top 10 talent in her once upon a time. Her CHR is only (?) #31 from 2018.

 

[botnic]

Almost none gives a damn about doubles, so it's much easier to excel there + playing doubles allows to mask some deficiencies while singles expose everything.

 

[Monzanator]

Siniakova is Top 5 choker in singles. This is McHale & Hercog-level of selected group of chokers who can collapse from any lead during a match

Mladenovic just got old but her reaching WTA Top 10 in the middle of a 15-match losing streak is still legendary

 

[Aganim]

Siniakova is Top 5 choker in singles. This is McHale & Hercog-level of selected group of chokers who can collapse from any lead during a match

Mladenovic just got old but her reaching WTA Top 10 in the middle of a 15-match losing streak is still legendary

Tbh Emma did something similar ... also reached Top 10 in what most would say was a pretty weak season overall for her.

 

[pattyclijsters]

Mladenovic was a top 10 singles player, I doubt she is considered "bad". Her actual ranking was higher than for example Gauff, Anisimova, Rybakina, Kudermetova, or Potapova.

Yea, thats why I put bad in " ". And also, it's been a while...

 

[GameSetMatch6060]

I always thought that without that 2nd Player sharing their side of the court, that it had something to do with wind resistance and ponytails...

 

[JoyLuckScrub]

Mlade is a double fault machine. I don't watch her doubles play, but I imagine it's easier to overcome that with doubles serving positioning.

 

[shap_half]

KIki's singles demise will remain a medical mystery.

 

[guitarra]

I think the primary reason is Mladenovic movement is compromised (or it declined a lot) and in doubles it's not THAT important.

In case of Siniakova her strengths is net game which is not THAT important in singles and gets magnified in doubles.

 

[Hugues]

When Pam Shriver was asked why she wasn't as good in singles as she was in doubles, she replied that her double partner was Navratilova. 🤡

She wasn't bad in singles as she was a regular top 5-10 player during the 80s. But... no slam in singles, 21 slams in doubles.

 

[Random Run]

Gauff, Anisimova, Rybakina, Kudermetova, or Potapova.

Someone doesn't quite belong in that same group.

 

[*Jool*]

Sinianova is so skilled at doubles..pretty impressive.
Has to be mental or not being able to put her transition game in place to attack the net more in singles?

 

[VeeJJ]

Kat is a huge mystery for me. She has an all court game and is a top 10 mover within the top 100, and ofc top 5 inside the service box. So it must be mental.

 

[pattyclijsters]

The opinions on Kiki's movement are very different.

 

[Slazorin]

Muguruza cursed Mladenovic

 

[goldenlox]

Its mostly mental. If you have a good serve, you need to show it at 34 and 45
But they are earning a great living without good singles results, which is also an easier lifestyle than trying to be good at both like Kudermetova
I would be a doubles specialist. Get a good partner and play doubles. Nice easy living

 

[Aceqik9]

Muguruza cursed Mladenovic

The only language Mladenovic doesn’t know… the one Muguruza’s racket talks in

 

[Hanan Ubis]

at least for siniakova, maybe she can't keep throwing her neck around like that on every groundstroke for match-after-match