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Obviously, I'm a Williams fan.

The down side of Venus vs Serena is that neither of them can be emotionally whole hearted, and it affects their games.

The upside is every match there are points that literally no other two players in history could have produced, the tennis is so fast, so acrobatic, so ...beyond.

So I'm a fan of the spectacular point. Which means, naturally, I saw some stuff I liked in the San Diego final. A particular fave was Justine's answer to Kim playing ten feet behind the baseline. Justine repeatedly pulled Kim out wide, and drop-shotted her. Half the time, Kim reached the ball, and that's when the spectacle started. Drop shot might beget dropshot. Or lob. Or an attempt at a slick angled pass. Forcing Justine to find an improvisation. Good stuff.

So Kim vs Justine goes on my watch list, just for the fun of it.

Serena vs Justine has all the drama that Venus vs Justine lacks.

So gee, if the four best players on the tour play on another, there are some good points. Very insightful.

So what matchups OUGHT to produce good tennis?

What matchup, if you saw if was going to be televised, would make you sit down and watch because of the STYLE that was going to be played? For example, Tim Henman vs Mark Phillipoussis. (Serve-and-volley vs Chip-and-charge). You may not care for the players, but the tennis cold be both top shelf and of a type rarely seen.

I keep hoping to see Daja Bedanova vs Elena Dementieva but good luck THAT matchup ever being televised in the States.

Mauresmo vs Schnyder on clay.

Martina Navratilova vs Conchi (Seriously)

Amanda Coetzer vs Alexandra Stevenson - Maybe, just maybe, after Amanda handed Alex her head, she'd get in shape. What a waste of genetics. If she's going to be 40 pounds over weight, she could just be me, instead Dr. J's daughter.

Just to name a few. What would YOU like to see? Because of the way the tennis is played, NOT cause she's your fave.
 
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just for the drama factor i choose justine vs. serena - but also very good because one is always trying to outdo the other.
justine vs. kim also produces some good tennis (berlin final) and now with the supposed "bad blood" it'll probably get better
serena vs. jenn is also good.
 

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Justine versus Jennifer. Always exciting three-setters :yeah:
 

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Serena vs Jen makes the most exciting points of the current day.

However, nthing beats the battles and spectacular points between Venus and Hingis back in the day. Venus and Linzi can also have unbelievable points when Linzi is on her game.
 

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good topic :)

I think Volcana is referring to both, thrilling matches despite quality and matches where the players surprise you with their technical repertory.

I am more for the technical beauties of the game than for the thrilling part.

What players produce that kind of tennis? I would like to see Kim and Justine based on the third set of the San Diego match, others of their matches haven't but this one showed what they are capable off.

They match up well because one is an offensive players with a good defense (Justine), and the other is a defensive player with a good offense (Kim).

Justine likes to attack, be aggressive and excels on that, but she can play defensively when she needs to.

Kim tends more to return every ball, but she is amazing turning a defensive shot into an offensive one, and when she moves forward, she is nearly unstoppable.

Justine has to hit extra shots to win points against Kim, that forces her to try something different.

Kim knows if she gets Justine a short ball, the point will be over, so she needs to put everything on every shot.

Both players are technically capable of improvising and both can hit all the shots in the book.

There are other great match ups but I leave them for a later time :)
 

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I think Venus and Kim have some great point. Venus and Davenport.
Serena and Jen
I do think Venus and Justine will have some good matches now Justine has improved so much as a player
 

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Venus and Lindsay? Their matches show everything that's wrong with modern tennis: quick, error-filled points and unreturnable serves. They don't match up well at all. Ugly stuff. Actually, Venus tends to win ugly against a lot of players, because the form on her shots is so painful to watch and she hits the ball very late, and thus all her shots go down the line, so I can't really think of any classic rivalries that Venus had. Unless of course you include Hingis, who produced classic matches against every top player she played.
 

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Well i do have to ask did you not see the Wimbledon QF that was a good tennis matches.
I must say i have always thought Venus takes the ball pretty early myself. And she does not just go down the line.
Venus Williams can hit every shot there is and has proved that many times
 

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Clearly she cannot. :lol: I need not mention certain shots that Venus is unable to produce because you alreadly know what they are.
 

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If you watch a Venus Williams match when she PLAYING WELL she can play them all. (the only shot i dont see her play is the top spin lob)
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TylerDurden said:
Clearly she cannot. :lol: I need not mention certain shots that Venus is unable to produce because you alreadly know what they are.
Youneed not mention them because those shots don't exist. Martina said hitting with Venus or Serena they could both hit any shot you named. I'm taking her as a better authority than you. Also, I have eyes. Try opening yours.
 

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TylerDurden said:
Clearly she cannot. :lol: I need not mention certain shots that Venus is unable to produce because you alreadly know what they are.
Wanna see Venus hit every shot? Watch 2 matches:

1-her QF victory over Hingis at the 2000 Wimbledon

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2-her SF victory over Hingis at the 2000 US Open
 

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I've said in the past I dislike all Williams finals, and I do... but in that recent Wimbledon final there were points played that would not have been possible between any other two players. Some were absolutely fantastic
 

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Engh, all Williams finals can produce some nice rallies, before someone sends it ten feet long.

Jennifer Capriati vs. Monica Seles is really entertaining, so is Jennifer vs. Lindsay.


Spectacular points, Justine vs. Serena recently takes the cake.
 
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