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Kobe finally made his mind up and stayed with the Lakers. Hopefully, they will be able to build a decent team back up around him now that Shaq got his trade.
 

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Kobe will now get to experience what it's like to be Paul Pierce who all last year got double and triple teamed.
 

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Remember how good Penny was with Shaq...

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Kobe will now get to experience what it's like to be Paul Pierce who all last year got double and triple teamed.
Kobe will now get to experience what it's like to be Penny Hardaway :devil: :devil: :devil:

And Eddie Jones will get to recall what it was like to be starting in front of Kobe. :tape:
 
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Kobe will now get to experience what it's like to be Penny Hardaway :devil: :devil: :devil:

And Eddie Jones will get to recall what it was like to be starting in front of Kobe. :tape:
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exactly. :angel:
 
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Good luck to the Lakers.
They're gonna need it. :lol:
 

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The Lakers will probably struggle next year even with Kobe because not only have the top teams in the West gotten better or stayed the same, but the bottom teams in the West have gotten way better.

Jazz- Signed Okur and Boozer to go along with AK47(Andrei Kirilenko) and Carlos Arroyo I expect them to improve and make it to the playoffs

Suns- Now that Kobe signed with the Lakers the Clippers will probably match the Suns offer sheet to Q Richardson, but they did get Steve Nash which gives them instant offense combined with Amare and Shawn Marion this team could be good.

Memphis- Kept their core team together should improve on their strong season last year.

Nuggets- Kept their core team together Melo can only improve his game not to mention they are close to doing a sign and trade with the Nets to get Kenyon Martin for 3 future first round draft picks. Imagine a front court with Camby, Martin, and Melo with Nene coming off the bench.

Houston- Yao gets better every year, signing T-Mac gives them a one two punch that has the potential to be as good as Shaq and Kobe were or better without the drama. Not to mention if they are able to convince Derek Fisher to sign with the team they will have the three point capabilities and a soild defender.
 

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being in LA and all.. i wish he went to the clippers. he's not gonna be any use to the lakers w/out a good coach and a center that took all the defense away from him.

kobe has some skill... but the lakers are just spoiling him like a baby.

still wished we kept shaq and phil. =/
 

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There's no way Kobe would leave an organization that can

1. Pay him more
2. Bow down to his every demand
3. not be the Clippers
 

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Kobe is beyond arrogant. He got Phil and Shaq axed and has destroyed the chances of the Lakers to win another championship. He is a great player, but great players alone cannot win championships. I think the fans of LA will turn against him. :rolleyes:
 

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Kobe is beyond arrogant. He got Phil and Shaq axed and has destroyed the chances of the Lakers to win another championship. He is a great player, but great players alone cannot win championships. I think the fans of LA will turn against him. :rolleyes:

From what I've heard LA Fans have already turned on Shaq, but without him the Lakers probably wouldn't have won 3 straight championships.
 

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so, wait, is it a foregone conclusion that he will be a free man:confused:


btw, saw some of his news conference- he's so full of shit...

I'll be rooting the BIG deisel on:D
 

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it'll be nice to see kobe fall. finally, laker fans will stop acting like kobe is better than MJ [joe, where are you?] :devil:
 

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harloo said:
Kobe is beyond arrogant. He got Phil and Shaq axed and has destroyed the chances of the Lakers to win another championship. He is a great player, but great players alone cannot win championships. I think the fans of LA will turn against him. :rolleyes:
me too, he gets bad publicity for this stunt. I was feeling him (inspite of his current difficulties) now I could care less. He got just too much bitch in him for me.


Glad Shaq is with my boy Dwayne Wade. Cannot stand to look at shaq, but Dwayne Wade is a little fudgecycle.
 

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Personally any team dumb enough to give that baby his way is STUPID. The Lakers weren't even a .500 team without Shaq in the line up, without Kobe in it, they actually played better. Care to explain? That spoiled brat should be locked up playing for the fucking Colorado State Prison next year! I hope his Lakers suck, and I hope those fans in LA finally wise up and see what a selfish bastard Kobe is!

Kobe makes 'em pay

by Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
July 15, 2004
All you really need to know about the kind of guy, the kind of teammate, the kind of employee Kobe Bryant is could be found in the look of mourning and terror painted across Mitch Kupchak's face this week.

The Los Angeles Lakers general manager recently had watched his team implode in the NBA finals, had his legendary coach retire under duress and then was forced to trade away Shaquille O'Neal, the game's most dominant player.

Each was, at least in part, a result of either Bryant's actions or wishes.

"A disappointing day in a lot of ways," Kupchak said Wednesday when he announced the O'Neal trade to Miami.

Yet despite all of this, on Wednesday Kupchak still had no idea what Bryant, the free agent, was going to do. The Lakers had dismantled a dynasty and restructured the entire franchise, and in return Bryant told them, "Let me get back to you."

Then he made the entire Laker Nation, that so desperately wants to trust him, fret while he strongly considered signing with the Clippers.

Yes, the freakin' Clippers.

Thursday Bryant wound up re-signing with the Lakers for seven years at $136 million, but not until he made them grovel, sweat and humiliate themselves in the process.

What a guy.

If Lakers owner Jerry Buss still had a modicum of self-respect he would have gotten sick over this soap opera and – when Bryant still hadn't assured him he was going to re-sign – pulled the plug on the Shaq deal.

He should have asked Shaq for forgiveness, rescinded his offer to Bryant and moved on with personnel that understand what being a Laker really means.

Instead he sold his soul and mortgaged the franchise on a me-first, team-third guy. A guy who displayed not a thought about what this pathetic cry for attention was doing to the people and fans who always have backed him up.

Did we mention that Bryant is scheduled to stand trial for felony sexual assault in Colorado beginning August 27, and a guilty verdict could end his playing career?

The Lakers have been one of the proudest and most storied franchises in sports. And Bryant used them like a desperate girlfriend.

The Lakers are better than this.

The thing with Bryant is that it's always about him. There is plenty to like about the guy, from the high-flying game to the high-wattage smile. There is little question he is among the game's five best individual talents, has a knack for crunch-time performances and at 25 still has plenty of peak years ahead of him.

But when it comes to playing nice with others, there is no similar track record of success.

He has been estranged from his parents. He's feuded with teammates and coaches. His first shoe company, adidas, was so fed up with him they dropped him as a spokesperson and let him go unimpeded to rival Nike.

Who knows where things stand with his wife right now?

And this is who the mighty Lakers rolled over for?

They should have been more careful about whom they wished for.

This is the same guy who never could understand that part of his brilliance was a result of playing with Shaq. Who doesn't care enough about winning to figure out a way to coexist with O'Neal and try for a couple more titles. Who never had a problem throwing a game offensively (even in the finals) if it meant proving a point to Phil Jackson.

Despite all of this, the Lakers had done everything they could by Wednesday to keep Bryant – offering max money, changing coaches, dumping O'Neal, pleading and begging.

And in return, Bryant hung them out to dry for another sleepless, gut-wrenching night before grudgingly deciding to stay.

Heck of a guy.
 

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Personally any team dumb enough to give that baby his way is STUPID. The Lakers weren't even a .500 team without Shaq in the line up, without Kobe in it, they actually played better. Care to explain? That spoiled brat should be locked up playing for the fucking Colorado State Prison next year! I hope his Lakers suck, and I hope those fans in LA finally wise up and see what a selfish bastard Kobe is!

Kobe makes 'em pay

by Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
July 15, 2004
All you really need to know about the kind of guy, the kind of teammate, the kind of employee Kobe Bryant is could be found in the look of mourning and terror painted across Mitch Kupchak's face this week.

The Los Angeles Lakers general manager recently had watched his team implode in the NBA finals, had his legendary coach retire under duress and then was forced to trade away Shaquille O'Neal, the game's most dominant player.

Each was, at least in part, a result of either Bryant's actions or wishes.

"A disappointing day in a lot of ways," Kupchak said Wednesday when he announced the O'Neal trade to Miami.

Yet despite all of this, on Wednesday Kupchak still had no idea what Bryant, the free agent, was going to do. The Lakers had dismantled a dynasty and restructured the entire franchise, and in return Bryant told them, "Let me get back to you."

Then he made the entire Laker Nation, that so desperately wants to trust him, fret while he strongly considered signing with the Clippers.

Yes, the freakin' Clippers.

Thursday Bryant wound up re-signing with the Lakers for seven years at $136 million, but not until he made them grovel, sweat and humiliate themselves in the process.

What a guy.

If Lakers owner Jerry Buss still had a modicum of self-respect he would have gotten sick over this soap opera and – when Bryant still hadn't assured him he was going to re-sign – pulled the plug on the Shaq deal.

He should have asked Shaq for forgiveness, rescinded his offer to Bryant and moved on with personnel that understand what being a Laker really means.

Instead he sold his soul and mortgaged the franchise on a me-first, team-third guy. A guy who displayed not a thought about what this pathetic cry for attention was doing to the people and fans who always have backed him up.

Did we mention that Bryant is scheduled to stand trial for felony sexual assault in Colorado beginning August 27, and a guilty verdict could end his playing career?

The Lakers have been one of the proudest and most storied franchises in sports. And Bryant used them like a desperate girlfriend.

The Lakers are better than this.

The thing with Bryant is that it's always about him. There is plenty to like about the guy, from the high-flying game to the high-wattage smile. There is little question he is among the game's five best individual talents, has a knack for crunch-time performances and at 25 still has plenty of peak years ahead of him.

But when it comes to playing nice with others, there is no similar track record of success.

He has been estranged from his parents. He's feuded with teammates and coaches. His first shoe company, adidas, was so fed up with him they dropped him as a spokesperson and let him go unimpeded to rival Nike.

Who knows where things stand with his wife right now?

And this is who the mighty Lakers rolled over for?

They should have been more careful about whom they wished for.

This is the same guy who never could understand that part of his brilliance was a result of playing with Shaq. Who doesn't care enough about winning to figure out a way to coexist with O'Neal and try for a couple more titles. Who never had a problem throwing a game offensively (even in the finals) if it meant proving a point to Phil Jackson.

Despite all of this, the Lakers had done everything they could by Wednesday to keep Bryant – offering max money, changing coaches, dumping O'Neal, pleading and begging.

And in return, Bryant hung them out to dry for another sleepless, gut-wrenching night before grudgingly deciding to stay.

Heck of a guy.
This article hit the nail on the head.
Kobe is a jerk.
Bad karma all over.
 

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"The Lakers weren't even a .500 team without Shaq in the line up, without Kobe in it, they actually played better."

since the 96-97 season the Lakers are .550 with Kobe & w/o Shaq. with Kobe out and Shaq in they're .774. Kobe is an arrogant so & so but give him his due.

Jerry Buss got his feelings hurt and his ego exacted the freefall tailspin that is today's Lakers. Kobe deserves all the ire directed at him, but without doubt, Buss deserves more.

btw, the Lakers will not totally suck next year. even in the parity hardened west they'll be in the hunt for a playoff spot. there are a bunch of justified questions about Bryant ... his work ethic isn't one of them.
 
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