Maybe just improve, beat them next time and this won’t be a problem?

 

Usually I'd be on the same side as you, but I can imagine how tough it is for doubles only players to lose to someone who doesn't give a damn and then walkovers the opponent to the next round.

I'd be furious

 

So in short, you lost to people who don't give a

 

It's kind of embarrassing for her as a doubles specialist ngl, but at the same time it's so disrespectful what singles players are doing to the doubles tour.

Yes they are much better players than the ITF scrubs who try to make a living from doubles. But that doesn't excuse playing 1-2 rounds for practice and shits and giggles, beating struggling players, then withdrawing to prioritize singles after having had their fun in doubles. They are so out of touch with the rest of the tour. The WTA needs to have some rules in place to prevent this.

 

What is wrong with her 😂. They won the match and are just prioritising singles lol - should have got better and won, no excuses.

 

Kudermetova got a walkover? We're soooo back!

I can understand them, singles just play one or two matches and then withdraw ruining the draw. Doubles only players must hate them lol

Anyway, this just shows how bad is the current doubles tour

Btw, I like Paula but she needs to stop doing this. Not only in doubles, in mixed as well. She just got exposed

 

Every time? She's played doubles 4 times this year.

Stuttgart - retired in singles on the Wednesday, pulled out of the doubles on Thursday, which is fair enough if you're retiring at 3-3 in the deciding set in singles, it's likely going to be serious enough to not hang around the next day just for doubles

Berlin - played with Azarenka (which is the one this doubles person is going on about), but Paula wasn't even in the singles draw that event, so it would have been Vika, and clearly wasn't Paula pulling out to concentrate on singles.

Washington - played with Ons, Ons withdrew from the tournament before her singles first match and has only played one match since, so doesn't take a genius to work out who withdrew there.

Beijing - not sure what the official reason was here but given injury records, I'd imagine Muchova would be just as likely as Paula to have made the decision.

 

This is just not a good look lol. If you are saying they weren't taking it seriously, then it's even worse that they beat you. If you're not good enough to win the match then you don't go through to the next round. It really is that simple.

I agree it is definitely annoying the way the singles players collapse doubles draws based on their whims though, it happens too often. The poor relationship between both circuits only reflects badly on both groups - the lazy, entitled, and uncommitted singles players who (compared to the past) cannot be arsed to take doubles seriously and let it improve their games and rivalries and tour (and $). And on the other side of the coin, the supposed doubles specialists who still can't beat the singles girls in their casual hit-n-giggle mode.

I understand the frustration though, coming from a player who is probably barely making ends meet compared to these two. But this could have stayed in the drafts hahah.

 

2 fragile glass bodies pairing up with a history of injuries and surgeries was never a good idea

 

But this is also happening the opposite way, Danielle Collins retired from singles against Iga in Olympics and then played doubles (something like 2 hours later) in the same day, in the same tournament.

 

I'm sorry, but there's a difference between retiring and a w/o. Collins was 1-4 in the third set and knew she wasn't winning, so she wanted to give herself the best chance at doubles later that day. Her first Olympics and last, where she still had some hopes for a doubles medal, while none with the singles. Certainly the same day schedule didn't help as well, which happened a lot at the Olympics and many tournaments and slams. But it's not happening at this 1000.

 

I can understand the frustration, but what kind of rule change would be the solution then? Maybe that if you withdraw from doubles for whatever reason, you can't continue the same tournament in singles? Then players will have to think twice before entering both events.

 

This...actually isn't a bad idea. Pretty simple rule to respect too.

 

I actually thought about it and felt bad. These guys can't make money in singles and then they end up losing to people who treat it like a hobby. Yeah it's easy to say just don't lose but when you're already making so little money it'd be hard to not feel bitter about it.

 

I understand when the partner complains but she lost her match fair and square. She shouldn’t give a fuck about what her opponents do later.
Next.

In any case it would be WTA fault since they changed the entry rules for doubles allowing singles players do this

 

I understand when the partner complains but she lost her match fair and square. She shouldn’t give a fuck about what her opponents do later.
Next.

In any case it would be WTA fault since they changed the entry rules for doubles allowing singles players do this

And for a good reason: WTA wanted to attract more singles players to do doubles.

If they get strict (to cater to playuers like Khromacheva, then there won't be singles players in doubles — which means the discipline becomes even less feasible and there will be demands to lower the prize money

 

Doubles is not even real tennis. Girl, bye

 

Also doubles specialists have it easier than ever. Singles players entering and giving WO left and right is the cherry on the cake for them (unless they are stupid to partner with one of them).

 

Doubles is joke competition full of so called doubles specialists, who are just mediocre players. This is the real reason why someone becomes doubles specialist - she has no chance to be a good singles player.

 

LoL

 

It's kind of embarrassing for her as a doubles specialist ngl, but at the same time it's so disrespectful what singles players are doing to the doubles tour.

Yes they are much better players than the ITF scrubs who try to make a living from doubles. But that doesn't excuse playing 1-2 rounds for practice and shits and giggles, beating struggling players, then withdrawing to prioritize singles after having had their fun in doubles. They are so out of touch with the rest of the tour. The WTA needs to have some rules in place to prevent this.

It's kind of embarrassing for her as a doubles specialist ngl, but at the same time it's so disrespectful what singles players are doing to the doubles tour.

Yes they are much better players than the ITF scrubs who try to make a living from doubles. But that doesn't excuse playing 1-2 rounds for practice and shits and giggles, beating struggling players, then withdrawing to prioritize singles after having had their fun in doubles. They are so out of touch with the rest of the tour. The WTA needs to have some rules in place to prevent this.

It’s very easy. Use doubles ranking to enter like before. It’s WTA’s fault also the brainless scheduling with so many 2 weeks tournaments

 

Just make them forfeit their doubles prize money if they’re carrying on with singles and give it to the losers, that will make them think twice before entering doubles.

 

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There is a very easy fix for this: ban players who enter doubles and then withdraw from going on to further participate in the singles of that tournament. If you commit to the doubles, you must see it through. If you have no intention of seeing it through, then don't sign up to play doubles.

While it may sound like sour grapes from the player, it seems Badosa in particular does this ALL the time, withdrawing from doubles commitments to focus on singles, and that should not be allowed.

 

There is a very easy fix for this: ban players who enter doubles and then withdraw from going on to further participate in the singles of that tournament.

Couldn't they just tank their (next) match instead? Almost similar result as withdrawing before that match.

 

Doubles has never been weaker. The tournament probably got marginally more attendance due to Badosa and Muchova playing one doubles match than it would for Khromacheva playing multiple matches. Maybe justify your doubles ranking by beating the singles players.

 

All singles players used to play doubles, and even today there are many high-ranked singles players that play doubles. And at the slams some play mixed as well.

Most of the doubles players today are also working to move up the singles rankings, so they don't see themselves as exclusively "doubles specialists." And the more matches they can get after losing in the singles are valuable both as match time and the paltry money made playing doubles.

For those on this forum who think a "doubles specialist" are inferior players just watch how embarrassing it is to see "Tsitibosa" play a real doubles team at one of the slams. I'm laughing while they embarrass themselves.

Everyone here knew these two (Badosa/Muchova) were just grabbing the limelight and getting some "match practice time," and that they would withdraw.

Pegula still plays doubles, and she wouldn't withdraw. Sabablenka and Swiatek played doubles for a number of years until they wanted to exclusively focus on singles. They wouldn't enter a tournament and leave after the first round. I think they have more respect for the game and traditions of the game.

I'm sorry, but Khromacheva has a point, and I'm glad she aired it. It's a discussion that needs to be had. This has the residue of stink of Emma abandoning Murray at Wimbledon. It's selfish and self-serving.

Forget rules: how 'bout some basic etiquette.

And for you people who diss doubles, you're just not serious tennis people.

 

All singles players used to play doubles, and even today there are many high-ranked singles players that play doubles. And at the slams some play mixed as well.

Most of the doubles players today are also working to move up the singles rankings, so they don't see themselves as exclusively "doubles specialists." And the more matches they can get after losing in the singles are valuable both as match time and the paltry money made playing doubles.

For those on this forum who think a "doubles specialist" are inferior players just watch how embarrassing it is to see "Tsitibosa" play a real doubles team at one of the slams. I'm laughing while they embarrass themselves.

Everyone here knew these two (Badosa/Muchova) were just grabbing the limelight and getting some "match practice time," and that they would withdraw.

Pegula still plays doubles, and she wouldn't withdraw. Sabablenka and Swiatek played doubles for a number of years until they wanted to exclusively focus on singles. They wouldn't enter a tournament and leave after the first round. I think they have more respect for the game and traditions of the game.

I'm sorry, but Khromacheva has a point, and I'm glad she aired it. It's a discussion that needs to be had. This has the residue of stink of Emma abandoning Murray at Wimbledon. It's selfish and self-serving.

Forget rules: how 'bout some basic etiquette.

And for you people who diss doubles, you're just not serious tennis people.

But they are 🤷 Erin, our former #1 didn't even try to play singles. Those few top 50 ranked singles players are also top ranked doubles players and they are much better than those wannabe doubles specialists.

 

And she is dead right.

 

Somebody else told me this…
Tennis is not a charity.

 

I love it when Badosa is dragged

 

lol me too

 

How about, if you withdraw from your next doubles match with no injury, you have to forfeit 80% of the prize money. But see, that still would have no effect on so called ‘singles specialists’ who just like to dabble in doubles to sharpen up their game.

 

I agree but it does sound a bit like sour grapes. Quite a few singles players, and Badosa is a prime example (also Jabeur), enter doubles without the slightest intention to play out the tournament.

 

She has a point and Badosa does this all the time, she deserves to be dragged through the mud.

What makes this peak comedy though is Khromacheva's follow-up post immediately after this one, in which she asks for manicure recommendations in Wuhan.

 

I swear all these players must think the W in WTA stands for WELFARE.

Navarro takes my place in the 125k. Badosa/Muchova beat me and withdrew. Yadayada.

The Tour is bleeding money and doubles has virtually no monetary value.

There is always OF and IG for you. I assume you are a fit girl, you´ll find enough male simps that pay for your bikini pics. Get some IG followers and you get 30k for a single brand story and product placement.

If not, stop crying and train harder/smarter.

 

Navarro takes my place in the 125k.

Navarro's problem is Fraudial activities. A top ten player playing a challenger is like Federer defeating Serena to win his 21th slam.