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I realise that the season is far from over and that there are many important tour events still to play, but now that we have our Grand Slam champions for the year, I wondered which of the two people would rather have...does Serena's Aus open and Wimbledon have more value than Justine's French and US? Personally, I have always rated the Slams as follows:
1. Wimbledon
2. US Open
3. French
4. Australia
In which case, they have an equal prize and perhaps we need to look to the end of year Championships to decide our World Champion for the year. What do others feel? :confused:
 

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steffilover said:
I realise that the season is far from over and that there are many important tour events still to play, but now that we have our Grand Slam champions for the year, I wondered which of the two people would rather have...does Serena's Aus open and Wimbledon have more value than Justine's French and US? Personally, I have always rated the Slams as follows:
1. Wimbledon
2. US Open
3. French
4. Australia
In which case, they have an equal prize and perhaps we need to look to the end of year Championships to decide our World Champion for the year. What do others feel? :confused:
It will be Justine no matter what Serena does. Serena could win 4 more tourneys and the YEC and it will still be Justine.
 

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I think Justine's year is better because she improved the most of the 2. Serena also won 2 slams but Justine has 3 Tier I wins extra and I think that makes another diffrent between the 2
 

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I think it hinges on what happens at the WTA Championships. If one of them wins that- they get the nod. If Kim wins it again- and Justine wins one or two of the warm-up indoor tournaments- it's Justine's year.
 

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I think the two are close THIS year..
I do have to say that Justine, by virtue of total tourney wins, has a slight edge over Serena.

but hands down, Serena has been the most dominant player on the tour for the last year.

hopefully it will be a good rivalry going forward..
I really don't think many predicted that the two women that would split the slams this year would be Serena and JUSTINE. its really an amazing job by her..

I'm a big serena fan, but have to give a lot of credit to Justine these days..
 

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7 tournaments for Justine: 2 GS's, 3 Tier I's and 2 Tier II's and the year isn't over yet :eek:

Even if Serena would win the Masters, I don't think her year would match Justine's :)

Let's hope we get a great rivalry next year :D
 

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steffilover said:
I realise that the season is far from over and that there are many important tour events still to play, but now that we have our Grand Slam champions for the year, I wondered which of the two people would rather have...does Serena's Aus open and Wimbledon have more value than Justine's French and US? Personally, I have always rated the Slams as follows:
1. Wimbledon
2. US Open
3. French
4. Australia
In which case, they have an equal prize and perhaps we need to look to the end of year Championships to decide our World Champion for the year. What do others feel? :confused:
It's hard to say.
Especially considering Serena wasn't able to contest
for Justine's US Open Title. They've met three times this year,
Justine won twice(on clay) Serena's(on grass), both on surfaces taylored for their game. Justine has 7 wins to Serena's 4. Justine hasn't lost before a QF, Serena hasn't lost before a SF.

The deciding factor more or less would've been the NA hardcourt season culminating with the US Open. I think in the absence of Serena and the fact that she may not be back until the YE Championships or the Aussie Open, I think many will give it to Justine.
 

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The media and most people will call it justine's year simply becuase this is the year she made her grandslam break through....winning multiple slams is something serena is expected to do considering last year etc..
Remember when venus and capriarti seprated the slams in 2001 and everyone called it jens year and she got player of the year awards even though venus had one double the number of tounrmanets as jen and had 3-0 h2h...Reason was cos venus had done the double the year before aswell and again was nothing surprising or abnormal she did in 2001...
 

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I think most people would give Justine the player of the year award just because this was her coming out party and she has stopped the Serena-slam winning streak. I think that a healthy Serena would still have been player of the year, as I don´t think Justine would have beaten serena on hardcourts.

It should be interesting to see how it pans out the rest of the year.
 

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I think most people would give Justine the player of the year award just because this was her coming out party and she has stopped the Serena-slam winning streak. I think that a healthy Serena would still have been player of the year, as I don´t think Justine would have beaten serena on hardcourts.

It should be interesting to see how it pans out the rest of the year.
Ditto.
 

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I would say definitely justines. Both, Serena and Justine have two slams, and both have beaten each other one time in a slam. Serena the time she didn't win SF, justine too. So i think at slams they are tied, maybe justine the edge because she has a SF more than serena (i know, serena wasn't there, but with speculation you don't buy anything).
Then there are the other tournaments, justine has more tier I and i think more tier 2 (not sure though). Plus justine has a winning record over serena this year. As a justine fan i'm of course biased, but i don't see how serena's year is better than justines :eek:
 

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I think just for the sheer fact that Serena couldn't contest for half of the year, Justine gets a big boost and will proally be awarded player of the year.
 

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Don't forget Clijsters!! The ITF made Hingis the singles champion in 2000 when she won 9 titles, but no GS.
The itf sure don't like venus williams- in both 2000 and 2001 she was the best player on tour and won 2 slams every year and multiple titles but they found a way to give the best awards to slamless hingis in 2000 and jen with only 3 tournaments the whole year losing to venus 3 times :fiery: :mad:
 

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Serena's year is more important, and I rather that because without this year, there would have been no Serena Slam. :)
 

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Justine's Season:

Sydney Jan 12 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(3) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - J Husarova-Q 6-1 6-0
QF J Henin-Hardenne(3) - A Coetzer 6-4 6-4
SF K Clijsters(2) - J Henin-Hardenne(3) 6-2 6-3

Australian Open Jan 26 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(5) - M Casanova 6-3 6-4
2 J Henin-Hardenne(5) - A Kournikova 6-0 6-1
3 J Henin-Hardenne(5) - K Srebotnik(32) 6-2 6-0
4 J Henin-Hardenne(5) - L Davenport(9) 7-5 5-7 9-7
QF J Henin-Hardenne(5) - V Ruano Pascual 6-2 6-2
SF V Williams(2) - J Henin-Hardenne(5) 6-3 6-3

Antwerp Feb 16 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(3) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - Z Ondraskova-Q 6-4 7-6(2)
QF J Henin-Hardenne(3) - A Sugiyama 6-2 6-4
SF K Clijsters(2) - J Henin-Hardenne(3) 6-2 7-63

Dubai Feb 23 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(1) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(1) - A Barna-Q 1-6 6-2 6-4
QF J Henin-Hardenne(1) - A Myskina(5) 6-1 6-4
SF J Henin-Hardenne(1) - J Capriati(3) 7-5 4-6 6-4
F J Henin-Hardenne(1) - M Seles(4) 4-6 7-6(4) 7-5

Key Biscayne Mar 30 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(4) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(4) - V Douchevina-Q 6-3 6-2
3 J Henin-Hardenne(4) - T Tanasugarn(30) 6-2 6-0
4 J Henin-Hardenne(4) - M Weingartner-Q 6-1 6-2
QF C Rubin(12) - J Henin-Hardenne(4) 6-3 6-2

Charleston Apr 13 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(2) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - T Pisnik 6-4 3-6 6-4
3 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - N Dechy(14) 2-6 6-3 6-2
QF J Henin-Hardenne(2) - M Pierce 6-2 6-3
SF J Henin-Hardenne(2) - A Harkleroad-WC 6-2 6-1
F J Henin-Hardenne(2) - S Williams(1) 6-3 6-4

Amelia Island Apr 20 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(1) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(1) - D Randriantefy 6-3 6-0
3 J Henin-Hardenne(1) - C Fernandez(14) walkover
QF J Henin-Hardenne(1) - M Seles(6) 6-2 6-4
SF E Dementieva(10) - J Henin-Hardenne(1) 3-6 6-4 7-5

Fed Cup Apr 26 2003
J Henin-Hardenne - P Wartusch 6-2 6-1

Berlin May 11 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(3) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - D Bedanova 6-4 6-1
3 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - P Schnyder(15) 6-2 6-3
QF J Henin-Hardenne(3) - V Zvonareva 6-4 7-5
SF J Henin-Hardenne(3) - A Mauresmo(5) 7-66 6-4
F J Henin-Hardenne(3) - K Clijsters(1) 4-6 6-4 7-5

Roland Garros June 8 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(4) - P Wartusch 6-3 7-5
2 J Henin-Hardenne(4) - J Kostanic 6-2 6-2
3 J Henin-Hardenne(4) - D Randriantefy 6-1 6-1
4 J Henin-Hardenne(4) - P Schnyder(19) 6-3 2-6 6-2
QF J Henin-Hardenne(4) - C Rubin(8) 6-3 6-2
SF J Henin-Hardenne(4) - S Williams(1) 6-2 4-6 7-5
F J Henin-Hardenne(4) - K Clijsters(2) 6-0 6-4

's-Hertogenbosch June 22 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(2) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - M Sanchez Lorenzo 6-4 6-3
QF J Henin-Hardenne(2) - L Cervanova 3-6 7-5 6-3
SF J Henin-Hardenne(2) - N Petrova-WC(5) 5-7 7-6(5) 6-3
F K Clijsters(1) - J Henin-Hardenne(2) 6-7(4) 3-0

Wimbledon July 6 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - J Vakulenko 7-5 6-1
2 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - F Pennetta 7-6(2) 6-1
3 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - A Molik 6-4 6-4
4 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - M Pierce 6-3 6-3
QF J Henin-Hardenne(3) - S Kuznetsova(33) 6-2 6-2
SF S Williams(1) - J Henin-Hardenne(3) 6-3 6-2

Fed Cup Quarterfinals July 20 2003
J Henin-Hardenne - J Husarova 7-5 6-4
J Henin-Hardenne - E Fislova 6-2 6-1

San Diego Aug 3 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(3) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - E Daniilidou 6-1 6-1
3 J Henin-Hardenne(3) - E Dementieva(13) 4-6 6-4 6-1
QF J Henin-Hardenne(3) - N Petrova 6-0 6-2
SF J Henin-Hardenne(3) - S Kuznetsova 6-1 6-3
F J Henin-Hardenne(3) - K Clijsters(2) 3-6 6-2 6-3

Toronto Aug 17 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(2) bye
2 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - M Bartoli 6-3 6-3
3 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - N Petrova(14) 6-3 7-5
QF J Henin-Hardenne(2) - E Bovina(12) 6-2 6-4
SF J Henin-Hardenne(2) - E Dementieva(9) 6-3 6-7(5) 6-2
F J Henin-Hardenne(2) - L Krasnoroutskaya 6-1 6-0

US Open Sep 7 2003
1 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - A Kapros-Q 7-5 6-3
2 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - S Talaja 6-1 6-2
3 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - S Obata 6-1 6-2
4 J Henin-Hardenne(2) - D Safina 6-0 6-3
QF J Henin-Hardenne(2) - A Myskina(7) 6-2 6-3
SF J Henin-Hardenne(2) - J Capriati(6) 4-6 7-5 7-6(4)
F J Henin-Hardenne(2) - K Clijsters(1) 7-5 6-1


Serena's Season:

Hopman Cup Jan 5 2003
F S Williams - I Tulyaganova 6-3 6-2
F S Williams - V Ruano Pascual 6-3 6-3
F S Williams - K Clijsters 7-5 6-3
F S Williams - A Molik 6-2 6-3

Australian Open Jan 26 2003
1 S Williams(1) - E Loit 3-6 7-6(5) 7-5
2 S Williams(1) - E Callens 6-4 6-0
3 S Williams(1) - T Tanasugarn(26) 6-1 6-1
4 S Williams(1) - E Daniilidou(18) 6-4 6-1
QF S Williams(1) - M Shaughnessy(25) 6-2 6-2
SF S Williams(1) - K Clijsters(4) 4-6 6-3 7-5
F S Williams(1) - V Williams(2) 7-6(4) 3-6 6-4

Paris Feb 9 2003
1 S Williams(1) bye
2 S Williams(1) - M Casanova 6-0 6-4
QF S Williams(1) - J Husarova 6-3 6-3
SF S Williams(1) - E Daniilidou(8) 6-2 6-0
F S Williams(1) - A Mauresmo(3) 6-3 6-2

Key Biscayne Mar 30 2003
1 S Williams(1) bye
2 S Williams(1) - F Schiavone 7-5 6-1
3 S Williams(1) - T Panova(25) 6-2 6-1
4 S Williams(1) - I Tulyaganova 6-0 6-4
QF S Williams(1) - M Bartoli-Q 6-1 6-2
SF S Williams(1) - K Clijsters(3) 6-4 6-2
F S Williams(1) - J Capriati(6) 4-6 6-4 6-1

Charleston Apr 13 2003
1 S Williams(1) bye
2 S Williams(1) - D Randriantefy-Q 6-3 6-0
3 S Williams(1) - C Martinez(15) 6-2 6-2
QF S Williams(1) - J Dokic(6) 6-2 6-2
SF S Williams(1) - L Davenport(3) 6-1 7-5
F J Henin-Hardenne(2) - S Williams(1) 6-3 6-4

Fed Cup Apr 26 2003
S Williams - I Benesova 7-5 6-1
S Williams - K Koukalova 6-2 6-2

Rome May 18 2003
1 S Williams(1) bye
2 S Williams(1) - K Koukalova-Q 6-4 6-3
3 S Williams(1) - N Dechy 6-3 6-0
QF S Williams(1) - C Martinez 7-5 6-2
SF A Mauresmo(4) - S Williams(1) 1-6 7-5 6-3

Roland Garros June 8 2003
1 S Williams(1) - B Rittner 6-2 6-1
2 S Williams(1) - M Mikaelian 6-3 6-2
3 S Williams(1) - B Schett 6-0 6-0
4 S Williams(1) - A Sugiyama(16) 7-5 6-3
QF S Williams(1) - A Mauresmo(5) 6-1 6-2
SF J Henin-Hardenne(4) - S Williams(1) 6-2 4-6 7-5

Wimbledon July 6 2003
1 S Williams(1) - J Craybas 6-3 6-3
2 S Williams(1) - E Callens 6-4 6-4
3 S Williams(1) - L Granville(28) 6-3 6-1
4 S Williams(1) - E Dementieva(15) 6-2 6-2
QF S Williams(1) - J Capriati(8) 2-6 6-2 6-3
SF S Williams(1) - J Henin-Hardenne(3) 6-3 6-2
F S Williams(1) - V Williams(4) 4-6 6-4 6-2
 

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The itf sure don't like venus williams- in both 2000 and 2001 she was the best player on tour and won 2 slams every year and multiple titles but they found a way to give the best awards to slamless hingis in 2000 and jen with only 3 tournaments the whole year losing to venus 3 times :fiery: :mad:
They used the excuse that Venus didn't play enough matches those years.
 

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Definitely Justine's: her consistent results week in week out, her prize money and her tournament victories are all better than Serena's.
 
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