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Just wondering, if Serena or Venus play as much as Kim, would they...

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be as consistent as Kim is? Although i am not a major Kim fan, i admired her consistency, reaching a SF or better in every tournament she plays this year, playing a lot of doubles and winning a lot of titles as well. If Serena or Venus are injury free, and they decided to play 20-25 tournaments each year, would they be as consistent as Kim???
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rhz said:
be as consistent as Kim is? Although i am not a major Kim fan, i admired her consistency, reaching a SF or better in every tournament she plays this year, playing a lot of doubles and winning a lot of titles as well. If Serena or Venus are injury free, and they decided to play 20-25 tournaments each year, would they be as consistent as Kim???
Venus proved last year that she would be VERY consistent. Out of 17 events, she failed to reach the SF twice. Once in Australia (QF loss to Seles...hampered with injury); the other in Moscow (2nd RD to Maleeva). She won 7 titles, and was in 3 Slam finals.
I really don't know what the answer to this question is. They are not used to play that much, so I wouldn't be surprised to see more bad results. But as I said before: I really don't know.
Well it one of the questions we will never know as both Venus and Serena said they would not play that much
I think they would lose more, but not much more...
I guess they would reach semis & finals without a problem...and then maybe lose to someone
What do u think?! since the beginning of 2002 Serena has reached the semi´s or better in ALL events but two: Charleston and L.A.( qrtr finals losses both times.) So that´s like 19 tournaments, 17 semi´s, 15 finals!! Damn!!
bandabou said:
What do u think?! since the beginning of 2002 Serena has reached the semi´s or better in ALL events but two: Charleston and L.A.( qrtr finals losses both times.) So that´s like 19 tournaments, 17 semi´s, 15 finals!! Damn!!
It's a long way from 19 in 19 months to 24 in 12 months. Very few players can play as many matches as Kim without their body crashing. Dokic has 3 more match wins since the beginning of 2002 than kim does for just this year.
disposablehero said:
It's a long way from 19 in 19 months to 24 in 12 months. Very few players can play as many matches as Kim without their body crashing. Dokic has 3 more match wins since the beginning of 2002 than kim does for just this year.
Yeah, but Venus nor Serena ain´t no Dokic!! Man, it doesn´t matter...at the end of the day people will judge you at the slams.....and Kim hasn´t been the best at slams. The most consistent performer?! Perhaps...that´s how she got the no.1 ranking.
interesting to think about, but the answers will never surface unfortunately
serena and venus are too frail. if they played nearly as much as clijsters they'd probably be retired by now and sitting in wheelchairs.
bandabou said:
Yeah, but Venus nor Serena ain´t no Dokic!! Man, it doesn´t matter...at the end of the day people will judge you at the slams.....and Kim hasn´t been the best at slams. The most consistent performer?! Perhaps...that´s how she got the no.1 ranking.

Kim is still young. It took quite awhile for both Serena and Venus to mature into amazing players. Kim is in the middle of her maturation as we speak. Good luck in the future.

If Venus and Serena played more I think they would become more susceptible to injury because of their extreme "power" games. They have comon injuries that "power" players on the mens tour have; shoulder, knee and tendinitis problems. That being said their "power" games obviously work so they are not going to change or alter them.
dekker said:
Kim is still young. It took quite awhile for both Serena and Venus to mature into amazing players. Kim is in the middle of her maturation as we speak. Good luck in the future.

If Venus and Serena played more I think they would become more susceptible to injury because of their extreme "power" games. They have comon injuries that "power" players on the mens tour have; shoulder, knee and tendinitis problems. That being said their "power" games obviously work so they are not going to change or alter them.
It did took the sisters a while to mature into amazing players, but at Kim´s age both of them had won a GRAND SLAM!!

So the sisters have the problem of power players?! And what game does Kim play?! Oohh yeah right.....I´ll run balls all day long till my opponent miss! If the sisters´d play like that, they wouldn´t get injured either!!
bandabou said:
It did took the sisters a while to mature into amazing players, but at Kim´s age both of them had won a GRAND SLAM!!

So the sisters have the problem of power players?! And what game does Kim play?! Oohh yeah right.....I´ll run balls all day long till my opponent miss! If the sisters´d play like that, they wouldn´t get injured either!!
Yes, Kim is a month behind Venus already. What the HELL is wrong with Kim? Maybe she should just pack it in.
In order for them to play as much as Kim, they would have to be different people with different bodies and different mentalities. They wouldn't be them anymore, so it's impossible to speculate. But it's always important to remember that reason Serena doesn't play that much is because she can't. :)
Willow said:
In order for them to play as much as Kim, they would have to be different people with different bodies and different mentalities. They wouldn't be them anymore, so it's impossible to speculate. But it's always important to remember that reason Serena doesn't play that much is because she can't. :)
As long as she´s winning slams and tier I´s....fine with me.
tennisIlove09 said:
Venus proved last year that she would be VERY consistent. Out of 17 events, she failed to reach the SF twice. Once in Australia (QF loss to Seles...hampered with injury); the other in Moscow (2nd RD to Maleeva). She won 7 titles, and was in 3 Slam finals.
what do you mean we will never know? Didn't he just post venus' results after competing full time last year? Is not 17 events the required number? :rolleyes:
bandabou said:
Yeah, but Venus nor Serena ain´t no Dokic!! Man, it doesn´t matter...at the end of the day people will judge you at the slams.....and Kim hasn´t been the best at slams. The most consistent performer?! Perhaps...that´s how she got the no.1 ranking.
Kim has had SF, F and SF so far this year I believe.

Are you saying that if she cut down on her schedule she'd definitely win a grand slam ?
Venus and Serena arguably play a game designed for their bodies and to overwhelm GS opponents. Everything in their record so far suggests that either the sheer physicality of what they do or their technique or their attitude to non-GS matches is going to cause them problems with injuries, make them play a reduced schedule or otherwise limit their appearances. It would be nice if they could play a full Schedule of Justine or kim proportions but they don't yet seem able to. What would happen if they had to design their games to be more sustainable is an interesting question - they might do it and be consistent, they might break down physically trying or they might become vulnerable to others if they had to try and peak 20 times a year rather than 4-8.
points:

#1. I wonder that if Kim played less would she be consistant through out the whole year. Would she win slams? Would she lose more that she won? Or win more that she loses?

#2. When Kim reaches 22-23 will she still be playing 24 tourneys a year? Will she remain consistant then? Will she cut down her schedule like [email protected] to win the big ones?

#3. I wonder when Kim was 16-20 did she win grandslams? I was wondering because Serena won her first at age 17. Venus at age 20.

#4. If Kim is so consistant and does so well by playing 24 tournaments why is she having problems winning over Venus and Serena(who play a MUCH smaller amount of tourneys)?

#5 Nobody can state factually that if [email protected] played more that they would not perform well. Nor can anyone state with a fact that they will lose in first rounds. Just like nobody can state for a fact that if Kim played less she would win a slam.

RHZ, [email protected] have accomplished so much more than Kim at a earlier age. What are you really wondering about here. [email protected] records speak for themselves. Between the two they have 10 grandslams not countin doubles nor Olympic Golds.

The only thing u need to wonder about is how are [email protected] still spanking Kim's ass on the court being that she is "consistant".
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Kim is going to burn out just like Hewitt. Unfortunately for her. She won't win a slam.
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