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Re: Indeed, ANYBODY could be a WTA website manager!!!

Ok if the WTA doesn't care about the tour and results, the players don't care about the tour and results (they don't even know who is top 5 half the time), how do they expect the fans to get onboard
This.

It's not only about the website,if anybody linked to WTA is lurking you're website is a disgrace.:wavey:

Worst, even the marketing is managed by people who doesn't know anything about their product and worst they don't care.:eek:

The ATP is trying so hard to build a next gen since years without players and at the same moment on the tour youngster are winning big and I pretty sure if you not related and following the tour you don't know them.

It should have been years now that they should replaced Zhuhai by a "next gen tournament" if you take this year U20 race the top 20 are:

Vondrousova,Andreescu,Anisimova,Yastremska,Swiatek,Rybakina,Potapova,Juvan,Gauff,Osuigwe,McNally,Zavatska,Xiyu Wang,Kostyuk,Gracheva,Ann Li,Aiava,Liang en Shuo,Shuyue,Wang Xinyu(+Lopatetska,Zhuk).

How can't you do anything relevant to market that .:SNE:
 

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We keep using the word “they” but who inside the WTA is ultimately responsible? If they are so sloppy about their fan/customer facing interaction, what does that say about the rest of their operations....
 

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Their website is a DISASTER. The last time it was decent was around 2005. What also drives me crazy is that in the ATP/WTA live app, the WTA doesn't bother to upload or update draws for the tournaments at least half the time. The ATP tournaments are always up to date, but for WTA they often don't post the draws for several hours or sometimes even days after it has been released, and then usually totally stop updating once the tournament starts. That is where I want to go to find the draws each week, but it usually ends up being easier to find them here :help:.
Yes. It was really good and easy to navigate.
It has been downhill since. Everytime it changes you think it can't get any worse, but they still find a way.
 

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Re: Indeed, ANYBODY could be a WTA website manager!!!

Yeah, good luck with that...

So on a more realistic note, what good sites do you all use for stats for players? Like for example if I want to know the tiebreak record of a player this year and overall for their career (maybe with individual breakdowns for each year), that sort of thing.
Was only speaking hypothetically, mostly in jest, about that Twitter storm, but you and poster 'Grumpy Cat'(just above) have inspired me a bit. The WTA site manager is surely a complete nobody in their hierarchy; the director might not even know that useless, chronic masturbator's NAME.

However, there IS an executive or, at least, a supervisor, whose job it is to make sure that the website is working correctly, amongst other things. If we can determine WHO that is, I can go back to post #1 and list his/her personal contact data for posters to express their complaints.

It's not unusual for corporations to offer contact info for their VIPs, including Twitter handles. Although he/she will undoubtedly, eventually block folks who strongly criticize him/her, he/she will get tired of tennis fans saying that he/she sucks raw donkey balls and, at some point, will go to the webmaster and order him to clean up that effin' mess...or else!!!
 

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Re: Indeed, ANYBODY could be a WTA website manager!!!

Was only speaking hypothetically, mostly in jest, about that Twitter storm, but you and poster 'Grumpy Cat'(just above) have inspired me a bit. The WTA site manager is surely a complete nobody in their hierarchy; the director might not even know that useless, chronic masturbator's NAME.

However, there IS an executive or, at least, a supervisor, whose job it is to make sure that the website is working correctly, amongst other things. If we can determine WHO that is, I can go back to post #1 and list his/her personal contact data for posters to express their complaints.

It's not unusual for corporations to offer contact info for their VIPs, including Twitter handles. Although he/she will undoubtedly, eventually block folks who strongly criticize him/her, he/she will get tired of tennis fans saying that he/she sucks raw donkey balls and, at some point, will go to the webmaster and order him to clean up that effin' mess...or else!!!
I wouldn't out someone so publicly. It is their livelihood after all. Probably best for us to go and fill out their shitty web forms to voice our complaints :eek:h:
https://www.wtatennis.com/content/wta-contact-information
 

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And can we stop throwing this sexist accusation please? The one who is in charge of the website could be a woman for all we know, and let's be honest the website was already a mess under the regime of Stacey
 

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I think they need to treat the WTA site like a women's tennis magazine with some juicy articles about what's going on off court, updates about their personal life, in-depth analysis of top players game repeatedly and seasonally of specialists like grass courters and clay courters, invested profiles of upcoming players, information on ticket availability and prices, how-to-manual about what talented young girls could be lured into the sport and how info about what parents, community and associations could do to help the growth. Interactive fan+player sessions and a whole lot more.
 

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I wouldn't out someone so publicly. It is their livelihood after all. Probably best for us to go and fill out their shitty web forms to voice our complaints :eek:h:
https://www.wtatennis.com/content/wta-contact-information
Though I respect your feedback, there may be an inherent flaw with your proposal: If we use the website to lodge complaints ABOUT the website, won't the site manager simply bury the complaints and feed his supervisors some BS like, "95% of fans say they LOVE the new site format and are very content with it!:D"?

I feel like we need to go over his head, but I get a very arrogant vibe from the WTA bosses, so that might mean that we have to annoy them to the point where they're tired of getting complaints about the site. If it's any consolation to you, I'm NOT talking about cruelty like having fans throw rocks at the exec's house or puncturing his/her car tires. Still, I sense that WTA big shots are almost totally insulated from this and never have to face any flak for their horseshit-level fan outreach, so that's how lots and lots of critical tweets/emails/phone calls could change that equation.
 

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It has nothing to do with respect towards players. WTA site and organization as a whole is just copying the rules and ideas of ATP, to the extent it cares. There's very little creativity going on here. Allowing on-court couching is the only different idea that comes in mind.
 

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The best thing is never to visit the site. There is no information there you can't get anywhere else. (LIVE Ranking, H2H, Tournament draws ... )
At least that's what I have done the past 2 years.
 

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The ITF website is better in a lot of ways. I usually use it and flashscore to research for games on here.
 

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The best thing is never to visit the site.
At least that's what I have done the past 2 years.
Your approach is very logical. My personal stance is, If we can find a fairly simple, direct way to influence/persuade(even badger) the WTA into making a better effort then why not try it?

We, the fans, deserve it since pretty much every other sports league's site is a NON-clusterfuck(that is, the opposite of the WTA's); the players deserve a WAYYYY better site to represent their training and on-court commitment; and, finally, it's healthier for the sport itself. A sport only grows a lot by bringing in casual fans who hadn't ardently followed it before. When such individuals visit the WTA site for the first time, they're reaction is going to be, "WTF is going on with this redneck, mom-and-pop, shit-for-brains outfit....and why should I waste my time with these assclowns:(!"

This is why I speculate that the WTA brass is insulated from all of this and don't realize just how atrocious the site is. The other possibilities are: They're extremely stupid OR they're raking in loads of black-market income behind close doors and, thus, they don't care much about the on-court product:eek:
 

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How does the WTA handle streaming in the US? Can I get all the matches from Slams and the regular tour with Tennis Channel Plus even if there is a delay for the stuff on Tennis Channel? I feel like streaming is by far the biggest fail of the WTA online presence.
 

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lol, Tennis Channel? I call it obsolete tennis channel. I dropped it from my cable package because it was too frustrating. Not only they show few women's tournaments, but they love to show century old matches, while we have LIVE tournaments going on.
 

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Some 6-8 years ago the WTA website was not inferior to the ATP's, by any means. Now it reminds of some gloomy joke. I can hardly find another example of a web service that would be so unserviceable. And I can't imagine the reasons for this disastrous decline.
 

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The WTA website is truly amateur.

Can’t find anything, and the articles feel like give are written by hack bloggers pretending to be journalists.

Horrible everything.
I have news for you, journalists these days are hack bloggers
 

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I wouldn't out someone so publicly. It is their livelihood after all. Probably best for us to go and fill out their shitty web forms to voice our complaints :eek:h:
https://www.wtatennis.com/content/wta-contact-information
This is not a personal but a corporate management issue. And that is normally (in a non-criminal organization) public: >>> https://www.wtatennis.com/management-team

As you can see the Corporate communications duties are the responsibility of Amy Binder. But she is the new PR boss (since 2018). The WTA website in current form is a bit older than that.

Going back to the topic. The reason why this mess exists is lack of diversity. Someone earlier mentioned that Coco Gauff's photo was added last minute but not Muchova's. Well how the effin shit do we know that anyone at WTA's management level even knows who Muchova is? Half the tour are Eastern Europe, yet how many in the management are from (for example) the Czech republic? Big fat zero.



That silly "form" you mentioned to voice complaints will likely not help someone like Muchova who no body at WTA may have ever heard of. They'll just tell her the official procedure to wait until next year's (Indian Wells or whatever) photo session, just like every other player. WTA only respects power moves, which is what Coco Gauff did -- it's safe to say she didn't upload her photos in the middle of a tournament via that form. So if Muchova's team want her pictures in before next year's Indian Wells, they'd better call their friend Nick Bolletieri someone else who can pull strings.
 
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