Glad these great Champions get along so well! Iga is a Nadal fan and if he wants Saudi, then thats where everyone is going

 

Excellent answer to a very tough question! 👏👏👏

 

Sometimes it's easy to forget that she's only 22 years old, mature answer.

 

Iga would be fantastic under cross-examination.

 

Did they ask any questions at all about her match?

 

Let's be honest. Rafa's decision just to earn much more money is scandalous.

 

Let this be Novak and people would be losing their everlasting minds. The energy would be very different.

 

Terrible answer and very disappointing for her to have this stance. But it's not shocking.

 

Vanilla hypocrisy.

 

What did she excatly said?

OP didn't said anything about it, I mean even if she said in positive or negative light, and I'm not gonna turning off great album to watch press conference...

 

The Saudi's sound like they're going after the big guns on the ATP which is all the real assets tennis has at the mo, failing Rafa I'll say they will be targeting Sakkari and bribing the Mexicans.

What did she excatly said?

OP didn't said anything about it, I mean even if she said in positive or negative light, and I'm not gonna turning off great album to watch press conference...

There is only so many loops of play you can tolerate for Michael Buble's Christmas CD, unless you have the full deluxe special edition so you'll hear the presser soon enough.

 

LMAO. Slighting Rafa was tougher for her than ruffling Saudi feathers — cuz she kinda did criticize Saudis a bit there (mentioned "rumors of sportswashing"). However soft and delicate, her comments are still an acknowledgement of sorts that things are not idyllic in Saudi land.

But in contrast she didn't have one tiny negative thing to say about Rafa and his greed. Didn't wanna touch that with a ten-foot pole. Offending Rafa is an even bigger taboo than offending a tyrannical regime.

 

LMAO. Slighting Rafa was tougher for her than ruffling Saudi feathers — cuz she kinda did criticize Saudis a bit there (mentioned "rumors of sportswashing"). However soft and delicate, her comments are still an acknowledgement of sorts, that things are not idyllic in Saudi land.

But she didn't have one tiny negative thing to say about Rafa and his greed. Didn't wanna touch that with a ten-foot pole. Offending Rafa is an even bigger taboo than offending a tyrannical regime.

If only it was you in her position. You'd set the record straight and show the world.

 

Please not a new thread every time Iga has a thought.

 

Especially considering she's so unmarketable and boring. I'm surprised people care about anything she says let alone she has her own press conferences

 

We should just have one big super thread titled ”What WTA players think of ATP issues” instead of having all these separate ones.

 

lel, what did they expect her to say? lametek is a massive wafastan after all. 🤣

 

I used to like her; she's more and more disappointing...day by day...

 

I've never liked Nadal and this just validates that.

 

Why? Guantanamo bay is open. Assange is in shackles. Abortion is banned. Yet players accept appearance fees and prize money from the US. The sanctimonious hypocrisy of the average Westerner is hilarious.

 

A lot of people are up in arms about this (especially on MTF). However it's like Iga said, this isn't a black and white situation. You can make arguments about where the money is coming from that he is getting paid (most money is dirty nowadays to be fair), but I do believe this has the possibility of improving tennis on a global level. We already have plenty of tennis in China and that is not exactly a country that is known for it's great human rights.

 

Nadal and Federer would sell their soul to the devil to get more millions...

 

Iga nailed it. As she said, it’s not a black or white decision. You have to balance the appalling treatment of women there against the chance of giving hope to Saudi women from viewing the freedoms experienced by women from all over the world.

 

Can women compete without a male relative or husband on the court? Doubles would be a bit crowded!

 

Iga has spoken! Now, if we can just work out what she said??

 

She never answered the question - she merely skated around it like a typical politician would do, saying many words that mean absolutely nothing.
She's young, and she was unfortunately taught by her 'P.R. people' to give such 'diplomatic' bullshit non-answers to 'tough' questions.
It's sad - and sadder still that we can say the same about 95% of the players.
I hope Iga (and others) learn to not be afraid to be their own person.

If you want to know a tennis player's opinion on this issue (or any other issue), ask Martina Navratilova. One may not always agree with her perspective, and she does let people know what she thinks of things too often - but one thing is sure - when you ask her a question, you'll get an honest and complete answer, not wishy-washy sitting-on-the-fence B.S.

 

Do you have the same response to Margaret Courts opinions?

 

Nadal's eternal karma is that he aged like a hot potato whose parents forget to take him out of the car on a hot sunny day

 

Seriously--How did he morph into such a ratface? Side effects of something, be it tangible or intangible . . .

 

Do you have the same response to Margaret Courts opinions?

^ Absolutely. People have the right to say what they think and feel. And I have a right to agree or disagree.
The minute I feel threatened by someone else's opinion or perspective on a subject is when I'll know that I'm in trouble as a human being.
Such insecurity as 'political correctness' encourages is extremely unhealthy.

How in the world can we possibly know who someone is if they are prevented from saying what they think and feel?

Not remotely close to apples and apples, though. Martina can say what she wants at this point in her life and broadcasting career. She's a legend, and can get away with anything. And even with that, tonight on TC, even she was pretty guarded on her comments about Rafa.

Young players like Iga have nowhere near that kind of freedom to piss off whoever they want. She's not going to crap all over her idol answering a question in a press conference. I get we want players to say anything they want, but it's completely unrealistic.

^ Tennis Channel very likely dictated what Martina could and could not say. It's unfortunate that she agreed to that stipulation.
If ever she's asked a question independently, she will give you an honest answer.

Iga and the other players are free to say what they feel and think - as everyone is. What are they going to do if she craps all over Nadal about this subject - will they take her #1 position away? Of course not. Will they suspend her from the tour? Of course not, because they can't. All they can do is tell her to shut up and be 'politically correct' - and she (and any other player) can tell them to go screw themselves.
As I said - everyone has the right to be themselves - and I wish more of the players would not only realize that, but would also put it into action instead of being 'politically correct' automatons and mere clones of each other.

People who claim to be 'non-judgmental' are full of dung. It is absolute human nature to make dozens of judgments each and every day. It's an inherent part of our survival instinct... It's how we differentiate between our friends and our foes... it's how we choose our favourite cereal. To make 'no judgment' is to have no opinion or perspective on anyone or anything. And that's not humanly possible.

A needy person cannot be helped until we first JUDGE that the person needs help...

What 'do not judge' really means is 'shut up and keep your thoughts, opinions, and perspectives to yourself'. Because everyone has opinions - some are even informed opinions, which are the only ones that count. Encouraging everyone to conceal their judgments/assessments/perspectives/opinions, which the 'political correctness' movement absolutely and tragically insists upon, encourages dishonest relations between people - it makes everyone afraid to say what they think and feel. And so no-ne knows how anyone truly feels, which makes honest relations between and among people impossible.
And that is a terrible thing for civilization.

 

Iga and the other players are free to say what they feel and think - as everyone is. What are they going to do if she craps all over Nadal about this subject - will they take her #1 position away? Of course not. Will they suspend her from the tour? Of course not, because they can't. All they can do is tell her to shut up and be 'politically correct' - and she (and any other player) can tell them to go screw themselves.
As I said - everyone has the right to be themselves - and I wish more of the players would not only realize that, but would also put it into action instead of being 'politically correct' automatons and mere clones of each other.

Ok, I couldn't resist.

Do you see Iga as being the type to make waves and tell people to go screw themselves? That makes me chuckle. I figured you for a better judge of character than that. That is not her personality, and it's obvious from a mile away. She's a shy, nice kid, a diplomat, a peacemaker. She has strong opinions, but is also very smart about sharing them. She knows it's all about time and place and execution. Even when she is critical of the Ukraine war, it's more supportive of Ukraine rather than launching into a tirade about Russia. Just not her style. The polar opposite to Martina in that regard, and that's ok. The world needs both ends of that spectrum. Neither one is better, just different.

 

"People who claim to be 'non-judgmental' are full of dung"

THAT is complete dung.

Why do I even bother. It's useless to try to discuss with you. Carry on.

 

^ Indeed - why DO you bother?
You should get out and learn about real life before commenting - then your comments might possess more accuracy and substance.

Anyone who claims to be 'non-judgmental' is an absolute liar - period. More proof of this can be seen in your response above - which is an obvious judgment.
As I said - everyone makes dozens of judgments every day - judging people's character, judging people's behaviour, judging situations and circumstances, etc....
We could not possibly survive without making repeated and regular judgments - it is part of our survival instinct.
Hell - this entire forum is FULL of judgments (some of them are even informed judgments!).

 

Alleged domestic abuse bad, no women and gay rights good

 

Ok, I couldn't resist.

Do you see Iga as being the type to make waves and tell people to go screw themselves? That makes me chuckle. I figured you for a better judge of character than that. That is not her personality, and it's obvious from a mile away. She's a shy, nice kid, a diplomat, a peacemaker. She has strong opinions, but is also very smart about sharing them. She knows it's all about time and place and execution. Even when she is critical of the Ukraine war, it's more supportive of Ukraine rather than launching into a tirade about Russia. Just not her style. The polar opposite to Martina in that regard, and that's ok. The world needs both ends of that spectrum. Neither one is better, just different.

^Swiatek is also one of the only - if not THE only - non-Ukrainian players to wear the colors of Ukraine on her shirt or hat on the court. So she is not as shy to state an opinion as you say.

EVERYONE who has an opinion has the innate ability to express that opinion. It is up to each person whether or not they allow others to stifle that opinion. Swiatek could have certainly answered the question about Nadal honestly - everyone possesses the ability to be honest. But instead, she unfortunately decided to 'obey' what she was told rather than behave as an independent, free individual.
I, for one, have never respected those who merely 'toe the party line'. If you're afraid to be who you are, you're no-one.

That you tell complete strangers to get out and learn about real life is hilarious. Foolishly assume, much?

^ That's another judgment... heh...
Are you beginning to understand how this works now? Or will you continue to claim that it's possible to be 'non-judgmental'?

Yes, I JUDGE your assertion of it being possible to be non-judgmental to be highly ignorant, and not at all a reflection of real life. And even if you're a 'stranger' to me, your comments reveal something about you upon which I can make my judgment that you should get out and learn how real life works rather than blindly accepting the nonsense that is 'political correctness'.

 

^Swiatek is also one of the only - if not THE only - non-Ukrainian players to wear the colors of Ukraine on her shirt or hat on the court. So she is not as shy to state an opinion as you say.

EVERYONE who has an opinion has the innate ability to express that opinion. It is up to each person whether or not they allow others to stifle that opinion. Swiatek could have certainly answered the question about Nadal honestly - everyone possesses the ability to be honest. But instead, she unfortunately decided to 'obey' what she was told rather than behave as an independent, free individual.
I, for one, have never respected those who merely 'toe the party line'. If you're afraid to be who you are, you're no-one.


^ That's another judgment... heh...
Are you beginning to understand how this works now? Or will you continue to claim that it's possible to be 'non-judgmental'?

Yes, I JUDGE your assertion of it being possible to be non-judgmental to be highly ignorant, and not at all a reflection of real life. And even if you're a 'stranger' to me, your comments reveal something about you upon which I can make my judgment that you should get out and learn how real life works rather than blindly accepting the nonsense that is 'political correctness'.

No she decided to do and say what she felt like doing and saying. Just because she didn't say what you would want her to say doesn't mean she has done anything wrong. Get over yourself.

Also there is a world of difference between expressing support for something and speaking out against something. One tends to create drama while the other really doesn't. Last thing she is trying to do in the middle of a slam that she hopes to win is put herself in a position to have to deal with a bunch of drama...