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there would be a Spit Fire going on.

It amazes me, how the rhetoric fell on Venus for pulling out guarding further injury befor the championships. Even accused of LYING by the Beloved Lindsay Davenport, whom as Serena said, should be Happy Venus decided not to come.

I tried not believing the double standards when it came to the sisters. But there were TONS of well-wishers in the Davenport Withdraws thread.

Venus and Serena can't win for Losing. I am convinced now, no matter what they do or say it will be twisted and tainted into someone's controversy.

Venus was not told to get better or hope she recovers well, only by her fans. And we are also hurting b/c we want to see her play, but we also want to see her Healthy.

We all know that if Venus would've played her indoor schedule, with only Linz to defend, we could very well be looking at her ending as #1, but Sh*t Happens.

September 11th, was not easy on alot of Americans, which was the Tuesday after the US Open just wrapped up. Not Traveling and having doubts are still common here in the US, so I don't blame Venus for being cautious, and I also applaud Lindsay for being courageous enough to fly.

But Venus' injury vs. Lindsay new injury is the case in point.

Everything people say or do will come back and haunt them sooner or later.

WELL.......Get well Soon Lindsay and Venus and Martina.

JUST VENTING A LITTLE!
 

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oh puhlese................not again..........................

the difference is that Lindsay doesn't have a history of suspicious withdrawals.............

and that is all i'm going to say.
 

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Why would Lindsay work her ass off to get to the finals, and just pull out? She must've been REALLY injured. Notice the key word REALLY.
 

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Had Venus or Serena pulled out after sustaining an injury during a match, with dozens of TV cameras filming the moment they got injured, they'd get lots of support as well.

Lindsay was almost crying during the press conference because she feels so bad about it. When Venus withdrew in Indian Wells, she didn't even come out to apologise to the crowds, she didn't bother explaining. I used to give Venus the benefit of the doubt, but after a while you get tired of doing it, because she keeps on withdrawing tournament after tournament.
 

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Lindsay didn't accuse anyone of lying all she said was that Venus should have told the organisers early of her injury.

Even the Eurosport presenters have said this.
 
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What happened wuth the investigation on Venus' "injury" ??? I'm dying to hear the results <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
 

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The reason why Venus' injury is suspicious and Lindsay's isn't is because Venus had reasons for wanting to get out of the tournament (fear of flying, possibly having to play Serena, and the 'family problems') whereas Lindsay had no earthly reason for wanting to get out of playing the final in Munich. I'm not saying, BTW, that Venus is lying but just that she might be. I'll just wait for the doctors' report...
 

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Foot_Fault:<br />Excellent points except for one critical issue: the issue of credibility. V & S lost all of their credibility a long time ago. Lindsay hasn't. We have also seen Lindsay play thru injuries -- like 2 years ago when Venus beat her at Wimbledon. Lindsay was bandaged along her entire torso. I personally believe that Venus has incredibly small and delicate wrists. It is no accident that she keeps them taped all the time -- they injure easily the way she plays. But unfortunately her lack of credibility is what has her in this situation. Don't blame it on anything else.<br />TC
 

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Foot_Fault:

You are 100% correct, and everyone one here knows that!

TC:

You wrote that Venus and Serena "lost their credibility" long ago. Now, I don't know exactly what you mean, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for right now. The only way that someone could lose credibility, in my mind, is to be a habitual liar. So, I ask you: What has Serena and Venus lied about to cause you to make such a blanket statement? I didn't ask you what you THINK that they've lied about, but what do YOU know that they've lied about - factually?

If you cannot provide me with an actual documented lie that they've said, then you've lost your credibility!
 

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I think the better question is do you think Lindsay would have played if it meant taking over number 1?
 

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Venus isn't in a 'situation'. The WTA is in a situation. Venus can retire tomorrow and walk away a 21 year old millionaire witha promising design career. Not bad for a gril from Compton.

The WTA, on the other hand, is risking alienating its current best meal ticket. This could have been handled in private. Choosing to do it publicly reads like an attempt at a public humiliation. So the WTA looks bad regardless of how it comes out. And getting Venus to represtent the WTA at awards banquets and the like is probably out the window forever.

And it's over $140,000 basically. Venus can quite could skip the year end championships every year too, just to make a point.
 

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Footfault great point. There are alot of fans of Venus who like her and respect her tennis. Many are not even on this board and many are not sista's and brotha's. Foot this board has immature ignorant posters and it's no use using these people as examples of the many intelligent people out here in this world who support Venus. This board is not a reflection of the common people. this is a tennis board. Alot of the same people who read these boards are the same faces that are in the tennis crowds. There are alot of people who can't get to tourneys or may not even have access to a computer, but they know and love Venus Williams. It's hard I know but when u stop and think about it ,imho this is not a realistic reflection of the majority of tennis fans out there.

tennisace could you answer the question imho your credibity is in doubt? Where r your facts at? Are you following the bandwagon?

Volcana.. your post is right on! When is the tour gonna realize that they cannot control Venus Williams. She is gonna play when she chooses and is not gonna be some commodity to anyone. She has a life outside tennis. Imho Venus's classy behavior/winning slams and playing few tourneys and strong views regarding her life is making the WTA look like a foolish ass. Venus imho is on to something. And the tour knows it and they are scared. Venus could play about 15 tourneys and do well .. and when players begin to realize that it may be the best solution for their power game then the tour will lose top name players.

These are my opinions and I love you all. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Even those who can't bring themselves to show Venus and Serena a lil praise when they win. EVEN if a player withdrew hurt. Shit happens. Infact when Serena bageled hingis then hurt herself DURING play(and of course many peeps said she was faking) But when Serena withdrew at the Canadian tourney last year.. I remember alot of fans said "great match Hingis" So Becca I disagree again <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> about the "Lindsay withdrew so that could. be.. why.." crap.. Bottom line is that people are haters because Serena beat up on their girls. And was not RUSTY like they so wished her to be. Ha Ha. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
 

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Basically because Venus and Serena "invent" injuries and aches when they are losing or simply because they don't want to play that week... or the month, bimester, trimester...

I like Serena very much, specially her game, but there are some Williams' attitudes I can't stand, i.e: Victory dance - US Open 2000 <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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Cia u must be a Hingis fan.. lol <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

I can't stand .. well haven't seen it for awhile but I couldn't stand hingis' smirk. Or when she picked up one of Venus's beads and made a rude comment . She didn't dance but after her victory she was not nice. So since hingis made rude gestures.. I know what it is... *dawn smacks hand on head*

Cia it seems that your ticked that Venus can dance and maybe Hingis has no rhythem? <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
 
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