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here is what my 9 masters series leading up to the YEC would be:

Indian Wells
Miami
Charleston
Berlin
Rome
San Diego
Canada
Moscow
Zurich

i chose these because they are tier Is, and they follow the masters series format on the men's side, where there are 4 hard court events, 3 clay court events, and 2 indoors

i think it would be interesting how the wta works it if they keep pushing their system towards the atp system
 

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Hum I agree with your list :) Canada definitely deserves to be there though recently the level has been a lil lower due to injuries!
 

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I am sure Hingis will be in Canada this year after all its a event she played every year prior to retirement
 

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FaceyFacem said:
here is what my 9 masters series leading up to the YEC would be:

Indian Wells
Miami
Charleston
Berlin
Rome
San Diego
Canada
Moscow
Zurich

i chose these because they are tier Is, and they follow the masters series format on the men's side, where there are 4 hard court events, 3 clay court events, and 2 indoors

i think it would be interesting how the wta works it if they keep pushing their system towards the atp system
Baby take off IW players are not touching that tournment anymore.
 

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I assumed that there was a masters seris for the WTA! :shrug:
 

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The list makes sense because it's all of the Tier 1's, except for the incredibly weak Pan Pacific. They could just demote Tokyo to a Tier 2 and create a Masters Series out of the rest.
 

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I agree with most of those except for maybe San Diego, I dont think that it is that big of an event, is it?

I feel like maybe Dubai would be a Masters Series, considering the field this year, but that is a tier II, right?

Somehow, it feels like San Diego shouldnt be a Tier I, but I guess its cuz its in the summer hardcourt season among other big events....

But u're right, the wta seems to be walking the ATP line, in tournaments.
 

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It wouldn't matter if they were mandatory or not. If a player does not want to go to an event then they will not. The price they will have to pay is so minimal to them.
 

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what about Filderstadt (I know its Tier II but look how strong the field is annually. Same as Sydney maybe I am biased with Sydney tho :eek: )
 

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VenusSerenaRocks said:
It wouldn't matter if they were mandatory or not. If a player does not want to go to an event then they will not. The price they will have to pay is so minimal to them.
right, but the thing with masters series is the event MUST count on your ranking, so having six or seven 0s on your rank because you feel like skipping can damage your chances to win in other events too
 

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I say bump up one of the popular Tier II's (ie Fildy - or wherever it moved to, Dubai etc to a Masters event) and get rid of Moscow.

The other problem is that some of these events are quite bunched up - Indian Wells & Miami, San Diego & Canada, Moscow & Zurich, Berlin & Rome
 

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FaceyFacem said:
here is what my 9 masters series leading up to the YEC would be:

Indian Wells
Miami
Charleston
Berlin
Rome
San Diego
Canada
Moscow
Zurich

i chose these because they are tier Is, and they follow the masters series format on the men's side, where there are 4 hard court events, 3 clay court events, and 2 indoors

i think it would be interesting how the wta works it if they keep pushing their system towards the atp system
Illustrates why it can't happen. 9 listed here, Miami, 4 GS leaves Sydney and Eastbourne as preparatory tournaments and most players in the top 10 playing about one other tournament and the YEC. That leaves the rest of the tour devoid of top playersand audiences and equally important no one turning up in Dubai, Japan, China or India where the present and future prospects are.
 

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what about Filderstadt (I know its Tier II but look how strong the field is annually. Same as Sydney maybe I am biased with Sydney tho :eek: )
there's no longer Filderstadt. Now it's Stuttgart. :) But basically I agree. US have too much of it.
 

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I think I'd fit Dubai in there somewhere. With the amount of money behind it I reckon it might be Tier 1 sooner rather than later.
 

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I decided to include Tier I and Tier II tournaments.
Where tournaments were in the schedule
Trying to get all the surfaces in
Indoor and Outdoor
Where the players mostly play now

Jan Sydney................ OZ
Feb Dubai................. U.A.E
Mar Miami................. USA
Apr Charleston............ USA
May Rome.................. Italy
Jun Eastbourne............ England
Jul San Diego*
Aug Canadian Open......... Canada
Sep Beijing............... China
Oct Moscow................ Russia

* San Diego got dropped because I only needed nine tournaments, and I really didn't want three tournaments in the USA.

This way, I got three in North America, three in Europe (Moscow is east of the Urals, isn't it?), two in the Pacific, and one in Africa. Nicely representative of a world sport.

NOTE: I wasn't wild about Charleston and Miami being so close, but I needed a green clay event.
 

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I think it's:
Indian Wells
Miami
Charlston
Berlin
Rome
Eastrourne or Birmingham (why no Masters on grass?)
Toronto
Moscow
Zurich
 

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having 28 draws for Masters series is a big no-no
they should all be 64 draws and no byes (except Miami/IW)

Indian Wells
Miami
Charleston
Berlin-German Open
Rome-Italian Open comes as the 5th biggest event by some way after the slams.

San Diego then a week of Tier 2 before
Toronto-Canadian Open another one of the old tradidional events.

indoors should be a Tier 2 between Moscow and Zurich.

one big thing is Zurich cant accomodate a 64 draw, move it to Basel.
 
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