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I was just wondering.
Elena is one of these players, everytime Justine (my ultimate fav) has to play her, I'm quite worried, because I find it hard to figure out a strategic plan that works well against Dementieva.
Hitting hard: n,ot going to work
Moving her around: go ahead, she'll bring it back deep and hard
Don't give her angles: She doesn't have a problem with creating her own (especially witht hose FH's she takes on the rise)
Play with a lot of effect: She doesn't seem troubled by it

You see my point? Of course you can try to attack her serve, but that's only a first step. I just feel as if -for a lot of players- Elena is maybe the trickiest player to play against, because on top of all of that she's very strong mentally too.

I think (hope) Justine-Elena could be a very interesting match.
Do I make sense?

Would be nice if we could make this into an actual tennis-thread; you know, about tennis ;)
Anyone have any ideas on how justine (other player) should play Dementieva, and what Elena should do against justine in their SF?

Thx :p
 
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Actually you kinda don't make sense seeing as Dementieva has been taken apart numerous times against the top players, also Justine basically owns her. :lol:
 

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Well, first of all, I think Justine is the favorite to win this match. (as much as it pains me to say this... :p)

But trying to provide an answer to your question, I think the game that works best against Elena is to use all the width of the court and then come to the net and/or use a dropshot to finish off the point. Even though it is a risky strategy given Elena's superb passing shots at times, I do think that is te best strategy to use.
 

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You need to attack Elena's serve and in your turn serve well. I think it can work against Lena :sad:
Hope Justine won't do it well :p
 

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Knizzle said:
Actually you kinda don't make sense seeing as Dementieva has been taken apart numerous times against the top players, also Justine basically owns her. :lol:
I know about their head to head (quite a few close matches though)
But the thing is, after Justine (or another player) won i always ask myself "How did she do it?". When she plays Kim, i kinda see how she (tried to) beat Kim, same when she plays Masha or even Amélie. With Elena, i don't see it. I don't see the "taking apart" happening. Maybe I should have a better look. But if anyone could tell me just HOW to take her apart, that would be nice.

ps: no, I'l not carlos, nor pierre-yves nor Justine elle-même ;) :p
 

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pigam said:
I know about their head to head (quite a few close matches though)
But the thing is, after Justine (or another player) won i always ask myself "How did she do it?". When she plays Kim, i kinda see how she (tried to) beat Kim, same when she plays Masha or even Amélie. With Elena, i don't see it. I don't see the "taking apart" happening. Maybe I should have a better look. But if anyone could tell me just HOW to take her apart, that would be nice.

ps: no, I'l not carlos, nor pierre-yves nor Justine elle-même ;) :p
Her backhand can be pounded, that's be the place you'd want to serve to rather than the FH. If u stay aggressive and keep her on the defensive then she's no problem to beat. I know I make it sound easy, but I've seen her get bullied around plenty especially with that serve. Someone like Justine has the variety to make Elena move forward with the midcourt slice and Elena's not that great at net so that's a good play.
 

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I don't see a specific gameplan against Elena as such (apart from picking on her second serve) It's just up to the other player to execute their own game and/or let Elena have one of her horrible days.
 

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You should ask Myskina!!
Oh, you mean play her in her first Grand Slam Final, let her completely self destruct, and then let that scar her for the rest of her career.

Yeah, I'd prefer it if other players didn't do that to Elena :p
 

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Scaring Elena is definetly the best way to destroy her game and I think Justine is capable of doing that :lol:

Pigam...I think you´re just experiencing the typical Justine-fan fear;)

However, playing a game full of surprising shots and a clever strategy might do the trick. Plus Justine has to come up with a good return game, serve well as Elena is a killer returner and if she has to trade groundstrokes with Lena try to place them as close to the baseline as possible and come up to the net often.

I can´t wait for the semis today!
 

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Elena is not a "traditional" power hitter, that's what can make her troublesome to all court players like Justine. In a good day (i.e. less than 2 DFs per serve game :p ), Elena can be a tough opponent to Justine, IMO it's not the forehand or the backhand that should dictate the game plan but crosscourt/down the line options. I'd say Elena has advantage in crosscourt shots while Justine owns the down the line ones. Part of the plan should be not giving Elena pace and bringing her to the net as much as possible... but I think it pretty much depends on Elena's plan (and her ability to put it on court), not Justine's. ;)
 

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attack the serve every chance u get and match her in groundstrokes u cant be inconsistent with dementieva otherwise she'll step up and start playing consistently herself.
 

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Knizzle said:
Her backhand can be pounded, that's be the place you'd want to serve to rather than the FH. If u stay aggressive and keep her on the defensive then she's no problem to beat. I know I make it sound easy, but I've seen her get bullied around plenty especially with that serve. Someone like Justine has the variety to make Elena move forward with the midcourt slice and Elena's not that great at net so that's a good play.

Miami '04 anyone? :lol: (I think that was when Serena creamed her anyway).
 

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Elena's opponents should all just accept the fact that defeat is inevitable, not even try, and hope that they don't draw her in the next tournament until the finals.
 

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from my point of view this match against Justine is feel like final to me
well I hope today will be the day that lena play well just like final in tokyo!
GO LENA YOU CAN DO IT
 

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it's really a tough question
I guess thats all depends on the day....

Elena can be unbeatble...but she can lose for 63 62

I guess whe should all back here when the match begans for say something
after see if Elena is on her day or at least out of her bad ones ;)
 

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Ask myskina...:lol:Shes the one who can play crap and even then beat lena many times...Somehow she makes lena play crappier and make mistakes..
 

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well as i see it ,the biggest mistake anyone makes when playing Lena is thinking they are home and dry when they are 6-1 3-0 up ,time and TIME again Lenas fought back and in her doing it ,shaken her oppo ,as they see their lead slipping away ,If ELenas having a bad day ,then she can still sometimes win just on the back of her sheer strength and fitness ,grinding away until the oppo can give no more.
 
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