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Can someone explain this to me?
she needed 3 sets to beat MGM who lost 1R here,

she was bageled by Kim Clijsters, and Elena Dementieva,
she only had 2 straight sets wins on clay,
vs Akiko Morigami and Crybas...
how is this more worthy to be seeded 8th in RG?....:rolleyes:

while Jelena actually stopped Magui's 14 matches winning streak,
and actully took Elena Demetieva out on green clay
right before Elena won her green clay Tier II title,
and she already got a couple of Tier I titles ,
including Rome here............

so dont tell me Jelena is not worthy to be staying in TOP 10...
GO JELENA...:)
 

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IMO whoever has the most points deserves to be in the top 10 regardless of what I or anyone else thinks of them. The points tell the story.
 

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Code:
[u]D.Hantuchova[/u]
Sydney          QF L DAVENPORT  4-6 6-3 6-7   
Australian Open QF L V.WILLIAMS 4-6 3-6   
Paris           QF L DEMENTIEVA 5-7 3-6   
Antwerp         SF L V.WILLIAMS 1-6 4-6   
Indian Wells    16 L COETZER    4-6 4-6   
Miami           64 L MOLIK      6-2 5-7 0-6   
Charleston      QF L HARKLEROAD 2-6 1-6   
Amelia Island   QF L DEMENTIEVA 0-6 1-6   
Warsaw          16 L ZULUAGA    2-6 4-6   
Berlin          QF L CLIJSTERS  0-6 3-6   
Rome            16 L MARTINEZ   6-3 6-3

[u]Dokic[/u]
Tokyo           QF L RAYMOND     4-6 2-6   
Paris           QF L DANIILIDOU  1-6 3-6   
Antwerp         32 L SUGIYAMA    5-7 7-5 3-6   
Scottsdale USA  16 L SHAUGHNESSY 4-6 2-6   
Indian Wells    64 L RITTNER     1-6 7-5 3-6   
Miami           QF L CLIJSTERS   2-6 0-6   
Sarasota        32 L SUAREZ      3-6 3-6   
Charleston      QF L WILLIAMS    2-6 2-6   
Amelia Island   16 L RAYMOND     3-6 7-6 2-6   
Warsaw          SF L MAURESMO    5-7 2-6   
Berlin          16 L TULYAGANOVA 6-4 2-6 6-7   
Rome            64 L MARTINEZ    4-6 6-3 5-7
 

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of course Dani is more worthy than Jelena being ranked in top ten, and she is basically worth more than jelena in everything. jelena is worthless.
how is jelena maturing? if she was maturing she would get over this and do her job. what happened to jelena is nothing worse than what happens to the average person, except she has the money to get away from it...
but money doesn't maek u happy, and jelena seems to be unhappy eventhough she tries to hide it.
Would be interesting to pair up Daniala against Jelena now, wonder who would win/lose.
would be possibly the worst match in years from top 15 players i think.
 

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Of course they deserve it! Do they not have the points? Did someone give them those points or did they go out and earn them? I dont see the confusion here unless you people are so against these girls that you'll do anything to discredit them. Geezus I dont even care for them but at least i recognize that they deserve to be where they are.

if you don't like the ranking system maybe you should start a letter campaign to the wta to change to the atp system.
 

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She's reached the QF's of the last 3 slams. That's a lot better than Dokic has done the last 3...4th, 2nd, DNP
 

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She's reached the QF's of the last 3 slams. That's a lot better than Dokic has done the last 3...4th, 2nd, DNP
when is the last time Daniela reached a SF in a slam....

many of you guys have misunderstood me.........
both Daniela and Jelena are in TOP 10,
but many of you guys just dont think Jelena is not worthy
to be ranked TOP 10, but considering Daniela's
disasterous results recently, if you are to say
Jelena is not worthy to be in TOP 10,
then you have to say the same thing goes for Daniela....
 

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when is the last time Daniela reached a SF in a slam....

many of you guys have misunderstood me.........
both Daniela and Jelena are in TOP 10,
but many of you guys just dont think Jelena is not worthy
to be ranked TOP 10, but considering Daniela's
disasterous results recently, if you are to say
Jelena is not worthy to be in TOP 10,
then you have to say the same thing goes for Daniela....
Six QF's and one SF is hardly disastrous. I think the point you are trying to make is that none of Dani's wins have been, errmm, convincing. She's not gone out and whipped anyone. But where does it say in the rule book that you have to give everyone a good thrashing to deserve a top ten place? The signs of a good player is one who can still grind out results even when they are not playing well. We all know Dani is capable of playing better than she is ATM but because she struggles to beat someone like MGM in 3, doesn't mean she doesn't deserve the points at the end of the day.

The only thing that makes anyone worthy of a top 10 place is the points they have accumulated. How they earned those points doesn't matter, a 6-0 6-0 win gets you to the next round the same as a 0-6 7-6 7-6 win. Lets' give credit where credit is due please. The fact is that Jelena is not worthy of a top ten place at the mo because she hasn't earned the points, it's as simple as that, and liek it or not, that is how the system works.
 

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BOTH players have not been playing their best tennis... BOTH players can do better, BOTH players have such potential and can go realli far into the rankings... BOTH are in a deep slump in their career

the only difference is... Jelena has been playing worser than Daniela... :p
 

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Though i hope both players start doing better... say...... in least than 2 weeks for Roland Garros! :eek:
 

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both players are struggling.

In Hantuchova's case it would be the rookie slump. Remember early last year Clijsters slumped [through injury], and she turned it on.

Still, Hantuchova has been more consistent then Dokic.

Last 4 Slams:
Hantuchova: 4th [FO]; QF [WB]; QF [US]; QF [AO]
3 of 4 losses are to a Williams

Dokic: QF [FO]; 4th [WB]; 2nd [US]; DNP [AO]
Capriati, Hantuchova, Bovina have taken her out
 

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Jelena is a better play and more exiciting to watch, also she does actually make some sort of indentation on the top players.
 

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Well that she is more exciting to watch is very subjective and has no real bearing on any factors about being in the TOP 10, I thing Ai is exciting to watch and can make indentations on the TOP players but don't rate her as top 10 material!!
 
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