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Many self-proclaimed opponents of “LGBT ideology” in Poland are also against the expansion of sex education in schools (something Trzaskowski has sought to do in Warsaw). They argue that such classes are used by LGBT groups to “sexualise children” and even prepare them for abuse.

Last year, Jarosław Kaczyński – the PiS party chairman and Poland’s de facto leader – warned LGBT activists to keep their “hands off our children”.

“The sexualisation of children must be fought and defeated,” declared Kaczyński, referring to sex education programmes. “We must defend children, so that in Poland the normal family exists…[and] homosexual couples cannot experiment with children by adopting them.”
Gross.

“The sexualisation of children must be fought and defeated,” says the chairman of a catholic party. 😂

I wonder if they also gonna protect gay kids from catholic or straight indoctrination, something that is actually proven to be harmful. :unsure: I think not.
 
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I'm against a lot of sexual education as well.

As a gay person, it was a blessing I didn't learn anything about it in school.
 

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Polish President said today (during his campaign) that LGBT are not people, it is only ideology which should be banned. Previously prominent members of his party said Poland should be LGBT free (meaning so called LGBT ideology).
It makes me sick to my stomach hearing this. This is very tough. I makes me seriously question my love for my country. And this is happening in the centre of a fuckin Europe.

I'm against a lot of sexual education as well.

As a gay person, it was a blessing I didn't learn anything about it in school.
what's wrong in education?
 

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Polish President said today (during his campaign) that LGBT are not people, it is only ideology which should be banned. Previously prominent members of his party said Poland should be LGBT free (meaning so called LGBT ideology).
It makes me sick to my stomach hearing this. This is very tough. I makes me seriously question my love for my country. And this is happening in the centre of a fuckin Europe.
It's really sad. But hardly surprising. The LGBT activism is part of the problem, a lot of it is counter-productive, especially when it comes to religious topics.

what's wrong in education?
It is usually bad, either ideological or sanitized or both at the same time. I don't know about the Polish system specifically though.
 

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It's really sad. But hardly surprising. The LGBT activism is part of the problem, a lot of it is counter-productive, especially when it comes to religious topics.
Don't know what country are you from but it seems you're speaking from a place were you don't need to fight for basic rights like we do.
LGBT activism has done wonders in Poland during recent years. Without pride parades and campaigns we wouldn't be in the same place where we are now. And I am talking about society (where a majority is for same sex unions. It was unthinkable 10 years ago), not government.
In the meantime the catholic church in Poland is the biggest enemy of our rights and it fuels all the controversies.
So blaming current situation on LGBT activism is just wrong.

It is usually bad, either ideological or sanitized or both at the same time. I don't know about the Polish system specifically though.
Poland doesn't have a sex education. It is partially conducted on biology lessons, partially on (catholic) religion course (which most of the kids attend). I get what you're saying but I'd say is still is very much needed. I don't think it is reasonable to compare your education, since the world is changing very fast and kids have such an easy access to porn nowadays. I know I didn't have that when I was a kid. And I wish there was a sex education in Poland back then, maybe some the kids wouldn't end up with suiciadal thoughts like many of my friends.
 

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LGBT activism has done wonders in Poland during recent years. Without pride parades and campaigns we wouldn't be in the same place where we are now. And I am talking about society (where a majority is for same sex unions. It was unthinkable 10 years ago), not government.
In the meantime the catholic church in Poland is the biggest enemy of our rights and it fuels all the controversies.
So blaming current situation on LGBT activism is just wrong.
And so it is in many other countries across the world. It's just so sad to see self-hating people blaming movements that - despite the inevitable mistakes connected with the fallible human nature - REALLY changed the life of millions of LGBT people for the better, instead of those bigoted institutions/beliefs that made such movements necessary in the first place.
 
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And so it is in many other countries across the world. It's just so sad to see self-hating people blaming movements that - despite the inevitable mistakes connected with the fallible human nature - REALLY changed the life of millions of LGBT people for the better, instead of those bigoted institutions/beliefs that made such movements necessary in the first place.
Fine. I just hope that you're not calling me "self-hating". You don't know me personally and that would be pretty dumb.

I could talk for days about the state of LGBT activism, but I don't have time and motivation to do so here. Long story short, there is nothing wrong or hateful about criticizing some of the wrongheaded tactics and politics of the movement who is proclaim to represent my interests.
 

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Fine. I just hope that you're not calling me "self-hating". You don't know me personally and that would be pretty dumb.

I could talk for days about the state of LGBT activism, but I don't have time and motivation to do so here. Long story short, there is nothing wrong or hateful about criticizing some of the wrongheaded tactics and politics of the movement who is proclaim to represent my interests.
If you don't fit in the description I made in my previous comment, then you shouldn't feel touched by it, simple as that.
Such people really exist, though, as many of us experienced during their lives.
 

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I always laugh seeing people talking about the LGBT+ ideology in contrast to 'traditional' views.

Omitting the existence of gays from sex ed is ideological. Claiming marriage is for man and woman only is ideological.

Religion itself is ideology. Just because it's really old doesn't change that fact. People have way too much respect for what are essentially one of many sects of their day that lucked out immensely by surviving the ages, parasitizing on already existing social habits, feasts, rules and accumulating power and wealth on the basis of morality.
That's why the big religions are against LGBT+ because it's challenging the cornerstone of their power: morality.
 

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Omfg.

Nobody saw a 6 to 3 ruling in favor of the gays coming.

This is so major. I'm stunned.
 

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It's stunning that so many people are stunned by this.
I think the overall consensus was that Gorsuch might or might not flip, with the latter being seen as the more likely scenario. So yeah, two conservative judges voting in favor is actually pretty stunning compared to what people were expecting. But the SCOTUS tends to care about getting with the times and when 82% of Americans and 74% of Republicans oppose workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation then this ruling isn't that surprising.
 
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Sara Hegazy, an Egyptian LGBT+ activist who was jailed and tortured for raising a Pride flag at a concert, has tragically died by suicide at the age of 30.

After being freed from prison, Hegazy was granted asylum in Canada, but continued to suffer from PTSD and depression caused by her traumatic imprisonment.

She sadly took her own life on Sunday, leaving behind a note handwritten in Arabic asking her loved ones to forgive her.

“To my siblings – I tried to find redemption and failed, forgive me,” she wrote.

“To my friends – the experience [journey] was harsh and I am too weak to resist it, forgive me.

“To the world – you were cruel to a great extent, but I forgive.”
Ugh. :cry:🏳️‍🌈
 

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Ugh. :cry:🏳️‍🌈
Heartbreaking... the sooner the asteroid hits the better.
 

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I always laugh seeing people talking about the LGBT+ ideology in contrast to 'traditional' views.

Omitting the existence of gays from sex ed is ideological. Claiming marriage is for man and woman only is ideological.

Religion itself is ideology. Just because it's really old doesn't change that fact. People have way too much respect for what are essentially one of many sects of their day that lucked out immensely by surviving the ages, parasitizing on already existing social habits, feasts, rules and accumulating power and wealth on the basis of morality.
That's why the big religions are against LGBT+ because it's challenging the cornerstone of their power: morality.
you mean fake morality
 
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