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Separate threads for singles and doubles is fine by me Brian. I might keep the Aussie singles and doubles together at first and separate them later-for older years it helps me to keep the names straight.
One way or another, we'll get there on this:cool:
 

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1929 US Nationals, August 19 to 24th.

Draw of 64. 6 foreign.

Seeded players

American seeds

1. Helen Wills
2. Helen Jacobs
3. Edith Cross
4. Molla Mallory
5. May Sutton Bundy
6. Mary Greef
7. Mrs. Harper
8. Gladman

Foreign Seeds (-all but one British)

1. Betty Nuthall
2. Phoebe Watson
3. Peggy Michell(maiden name Saunders)
4. Shephard-Barron
5. Olive Wade(Canada)


Final: Wills d. Watson 6-4 6-2

Semis:
Wills d. Mallory 6-0 6-0. Watson d. Jacobs 6-1 3-6 6-4

Qfs:
Wills d. Michell 6-0 6-1. Mallory d. Nuthall 6-3 6-3
Jacobs d. Greef 6-2 6-2. Watson d. Cross 2-6 6-1 6-3

3rd:
Wills d. Francis 6-0 6-0. Michell d. Gladman 4-6 6-0 6-1
Mallory d. Hilleary 6-0 7-5. Nuthall d. Sutton 7-5 6-1
Jacobs d. Covell 10-8 6-2. Greef d. S. Palfrey 6-3 6-2
Cross d. Hester 6-2 6-2. Watson d. Harper 11-9 6-4

2rd:
Wills d. Chapin 6-1 6-0. Francis d. Guild 2-6 6-1 6-1.
Gladman d. Sachs 6-3 7-5. Michell d. M. Palfrey 6-4 6-3
Mallory d. Taylor 6-2 6-1. Hilleary d. Blodgett 6-0 6-0.
Sutton d. Marlowe 5-7 8-6 6-2. Nuthall d. Dwyer 6-3 6-1

Jacobs d. Goss 6-0 6-4. Covell d. Endicott 6-1 6-2.
Greef d. Greenspan 6-0 6-3. S. Palfrey d. Shepherd-Barron
8-10 6-0 6-4
Cross d. Fensterer 6-3 3-6 6-2. Hester d. Zinke 3-6 10-8 7-5.
Harper d. Morrill 6-1 6-1. Watson d. Lamme 6-2 6-0.


1rd:
(1)Helen Wills d. Katherine Lamarche 6-0 6-0
Mrs. Chapin d. Mrs . Corbierre 8-6 6-1
Alice Francis d. Mrs. Letson 6-0 6-0
Mrs. Martha Guild d. (6)Olive Wade(CAN) 10- 8 6-2

Marjorie Gladman d. Margaret Blake 6-0 6-2
Marjorie Sachs d. Jean Burritt 6-0 6-2
Mianne Palfrey d. Elizabeth Warren 6-4 4-6 6-4
(3)Peggy Michell(GBR) d. Miss E. R. Sears 6-1 6-4

(4)Molla Mallory d. Mrs. Dorr 6-4 6-2
Mrs. J. S. Taylor d. Doris Balk 6-2 6-2
Dorothy Blodgett d. Eleanor Holton 6-4 6-3
Virginia Hilleary d. Mrs. B. F. Stenz 2-6 6-2 6-3

(5)May Sutton Bundy d. Catherine Jones 6-0 6-1
Helen Marlowe d. Mrs . W. M. Shedden 6-3 6-2
Gertrude Dwyer d. Mrs. O. E. Gray 6-0 6-3
(1)Betty Nuthall(GBR) d. Cecelia Riegel 6-2 6-2

Bottom half:

(2)Helen Jacobs d. Penelope Anderson 8-6 6-4
Eleanor Goss d. Virginia Rice 7-5 6-4
Mrs. Endicott d. Gladys Hutchings 10-8 6-1
(4)Mrs. Covell(GBR) d. Mrs. D. A. Alston 6-1 6-0

(6)Mary Greef d. Dorothy Andrus 9-7 6-4
Clara Greenspan d. Carolyn Swartz 6-0 6-3
Sarah Palfrey d. Ruth Bailey 6-3 6-1
Mrs. Shepherd-Barron(GBR) d. Anne Page 6-3 6-0

(3)Edith Cross d. Marian Hunt 6-1 6-0
Marie Fensterer d. Miss M. Falkenburg 6-3 6-3
Mrs. W. V. Hester d. Tackan Thomasson 6-1 6-4
Clara Zinke d. Carolyn Babcock 6-1 6-1.

(7)Mrs. Anna Harper d. Anna Hubbard 6-3 6-1
Marjorie Morrill d. Ethel Burkhardt 8-6 6-3
Mrs. A. J. Lamme d. Evelyn Parson 6-3 6-1
Phoebe Watson d. Josephine Cruickshank 6-1 6-1

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Notes:
A good field with 5 top notch Brits because of the
Wightman Cup.

May Sutton was US champ in 1904! This is her last US
Nationals at age 42. Surely one of the oldest seeds.

Shepherd-Baron is the only foreign entry unseeded. She
was considered a doubles specialist.

9,000 saw the finals.
 

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Brian/rollo ..... another idea is to put each slam in its on thread and in chronological order ;)

mix 'n match gets too much for the eye.
if not then color code the events ;)
 

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I've been doing Juniors as well on http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8040

only done it from 3rd rd though, but will edit it and complete it (singles only), junior doubles are particularly hard to get hold off.

ITF Juniors only has records from 1997 on its site (but do have junior doubles)
 

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All results are welcome, Eggy! :)

I am listing the results in chronological order in the threads, from earliest to current. That way, we can tack on each new year's results and keep it current. I'll have seperate threads for each event. I figure it will make it easier for possible contributors to check what we have.
 

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Discussion Starter #48
Brian-with the Wimbledon doubles, if it's possible I'd like to include some results from before 1913-when Wimbledon held a ladies doubles but without awarding a "prize" to the winners.
I'll start a French thread soon. Believe it or not there was actually a French Open before 1925! When I was looking up tennis results years in the London Times I found at least two years 1910 and 1911. I'm guessing these were "forgotten" by tennis historians because the World Hard Court event took its place.
I'll start a French thread which includes the early results and the World Hard Courts.
 

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Us Singles

September 10-19 1949
Draw of 52.

Seeding:

US seeds:

1. Louise Brough
2. Margaret Dupont
3. Doris Hart
4. Pat Todd
5. Shirley Fry
6. Beverly Baker
7. Gussy Moran

Foreign Seeds=FS in draw.

1. Magda Rurac-Rumania
2. Nelly Landry-France
3. Betty Hilton-Britain
4. Sheila Summers-South Africa
5. Joy Gannon-Britain
6. Carmen Fernandez-?


Final: (2)Dupont d. (1)Brough 4-6 6-4 15-13

Semis:
(2)Dupont d. (7)Moran 10-8 6-4
(1)Brough d. (4) Todd 6-3 6-3

Quarters:
(7)Moran d. (3) Hart 6-4 6-4
(2)Dupont d. (6) Baker 1-6 6-2 6-0
(1)Brough d. Kovacs 6-3 6-2
(4)Todd d. Vosters 6-3 6-1

3rd Round:

(3)Hart d. Pratt 6-2 6-4
(7)Moran d. Knode 6-3 6-2
(2)Dupont d. Rice 6-2 6-0
(6)Baker d. Pastall 6-4 1-6 6-3

(1)Brough d. Chaffee 6-2 6-2
Kovacs d. (5)Fry 6-2 5-7 6-4
(4)Todd d. Gray 6-0 6-1
Vosters d. (2FS)Landry 6-2 6-2

2nd Round:

(3) Doris Hart d. Louise Ganzenmuller 6-0 6-2
Betty Rosenquest Pratt d. (6FS)Carmen Fernandez 6-0 6-1
(7) Gussy Moran d. Katherine Hubbell 6-2 7-5
Knode d. (3FS) Hilton 11-9 6-3

(2)Dupont d. Buck 6-1 6-2
Rice d. Carroll 6-8 6-4 6-2
(6)Baker d. Morrison 7-5 7-5
Pastall d. (1FS) Rurac 5-7 6-4 6-4

(1) Brough d. Cheney 6-4 6-2
Chaffee d. (5FS) Gannon 6-3 6-8 6-3
Fry d. Wilkins 6-2 7-5
Kovacs d. (4FS) Summers 7-5 6-3

(4) Todd d. Rihbany 6-2 6-2
Mrs. David Gray d. Laura Lou Jahn 6-8 6-3 6-3
Madge Vosters d. Melita Rameriez (Mexico) 6-2 6-2
(2FS) Nelly Landry d. Patricia Stuhler 6-0 6-3

1st Round:

Dorothy Head (Knode) d. Sissy Leach 6-1 6-2
(3FS) Betty Hilton d. Jean French 6-1 7-5

(2) Margaret Dupont d. Nina Irwin 6-2 6-3
Rosemary Buck d. Virginia Boyer 6-2 6-3
Elfi Carroll d. Elaine Fildes 6-0 6-4
Argyll Rice d. Betty Coumbe 6-0 6-1

(6) Beverly Baker d. Mary Lou Beyer 6-0 6-1
Nancy Morrison d. Midge Buck 6-2 6-4
Helen Pastall d. Louise Snow 6-1 6-3
(1FS) Magda Rurac d. Lois Felix 6-4 4-6 6-2

(1) Louise Brough d. Charlotte Decker 6-1 6-1
Dorothy "Dodo" Bundy Cheney d. Edna Salichs 6-1 6-2
Nancy Chaffee d. Eleanor Cushingham 6-1 6-3
(5FS) Joy Gannon d. Barbara Scarlett 6-1 6-4

(5) Shirley Fry d. Elaine Lewicki 6-1 6-2
Barbara Wilkins d. Jane Austin 6-0 6-2
Virginia Wolfenden Kovacs d. Marta Barnett 6-0 8-6
(4FS) Sheila Summers d. Baba Lewis 6-2 6-1

(4) Pat Todd d. Sylvia Knowles 6-1 6-0
Helen Rihbany d. Patricia Macken 6-0 6-3.

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Notes:

An amazing ladies final. Dupont saves 2 match points in the longest final since 1898, when the women played best of 5.
There were also 2 long rain delays. Some in the crowd of 11,000 rudely shouted for the women to get it over with so they could see the men's final, which turned out to be a one-sided affair.

Total points: Dupont 151, Brough 146. Only 3 breaks of serve the whole match. One mp saved by Margaret's fine volleys. Brough nets a return on the other.

This event showcased continued American dominance, with not one foreign quarterfinalist. Early upsets included the fall of French Open champ Nelly Landry and the best showing ever of sex symbol Gussy Moran in a major when she upset Hart in the quarters.

Margaret Dupont's maiden name was Osborne. She married (and later divorced) chemical tycoon Will Dupont.
 

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Which years do you have Wimbledon doubles results for pre-1913? I'll wait before I add any replies. Don't want to have to do a lot of editing.

Impressive showing by Gussie. And she almost won her semi. Just think, she could have been a slam champion. As it is, she's become almost a de facto Kournikova. She was an excellent player who was highly regarded, but she's now remembered almost exclusively for something other than her tennis.
 

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Wimbledon 1884
Draw 13

Final:
Maud Watson d. Lilian Watson 6-8 6-3 6-3

Semis:
M. Watson d. Blanche Bingley 3-6 6-4 6-2
L. Watson d. M. Leslie 6-4 6-1

Quarters:
M. Watson d. B. E. Williams 7-5 6-0
Bingley d. F. M. Winckworth 6-0 6-8 6-3
L. Watson d. Mrs. G. W. Cooper walkover
Leslie received a bye

Round one:

Maud Watson d. Mrs. Tyritt Drake 6-0 6-2
B. E. Williams d. Mrs. C. Wallis 6-2 6-1
Blanche Bingley d. Edith Cole 6-3 6-3
F. M. Winckworth d. E. Bushnell 6-0 6-1
Mrs. G. J. Cooper d. C. Bushnell Walkover
Lilian Watson recieved a bye
M. Leslie d. B. Wallis 6-2 6-1

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Notes:

Recognized as the first ever grand slam for women today. At this time the Irish ladies championship(started in 1879) held more prestiege, as the older event.

A curious note: Leslie won a first round match , then got a quarterfinal bye, a curiosity never repeated.

Bingley became more famous as Blanche Hillyard.
The only time two sisters contested a slam final until the Williams
did so at the 2001 Us Open
First prize was a sliver flower basket
Because of heavy starched long sleeves shirts. the ladies all served underhanded. Al the ladies wore hats.
 

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Wimbledon 1885

Draw of 10.

No foreign entries, though Langrishe was Irish, at this time Ireland wasn't independent.

Final:

Maud Watson d. Blanche Bingley 6-1 7-5

Semis:
Blanche Bingley d. E. Gurney 6-1 6-2
Maud Watson d. E. F. Hudson 6-0 6-1

Quarters:
Blanche Bingley d. Mrs.Dransfield walkover
E. Gurney d. J. Meikle 6-3 4-6 6-4
E.F. Hudson d. Bryan 6-3 6-0
Maud Watson d. May Langrishe 6-0 6-2

Round One
Blanche Bingley d. L. M. Nash 6-2 6-2
Mrs. Dransfield --bye
J. Meickle d. Lilian Watson 6-3 4-6 6-4
E. Gurnet --bye
E. F. Hudson --bye
Bryan--bye
May Langrishe--bye
Maud Watson--bye
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Maud was the first of the "unbeatables", going with out a defeat from 1881 to 1886.
 

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Wow, Rollo and Brian you guys are doing an excellent job compiling all these records.


Maybe if you asked Poe or someone else, you'd be able to get a seperate forum or sub-forum to put all your different threads(singles doubles, juniors, GS, GS doubles) into.
 

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Rollo, I was looking through a search engine and I've found every womens and mens grand slam result starting from 1970, but it's only for the last 16 in the draw. I dont know if this is of any use to you, btu I'm going to try and find some complete results if these arent sufficient.
 

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1897 US Nationals

Held June 15 to June 19 at Philadelphia.

*1996 holder Bessie Moore has a bye into the challenge final.

Challenge Round: J. Atkinson d. Moore 6-3 6-3 4-6 3-6 6-3

Final: J. Atkinson d. Kenderine 6-2 6-4 6-0

Semis:
J. Atkinson d. K. Atkinson 6-1 6-3.
Kenderine d. Neely 7-5 2-6 6-0

Quarters:
J. Atkinson d. Banks 6-1 4-6 6-1
K. Atkinson d. Beaumont 6-4 6-0
?Kenderine d. Kitchen ?????
Neely d. Edwards 6-2 6-1

1st Round:

Juliette Atkinson d. Wimer 8-6 6-3
Maud Banks d. Edith Rotch 6-2 2-6 6-2
Kate Atkinson bye
Beaumont Bye
Edith Kenderine bye
Ellen Kitchen d. E. L. Rastal 4-6 6-1 6-3
Carrie Neely bye
Mrs. Frank Edwards Bye

Doubles:

J. Atkinson/K.Atkinson d. Mrs. Frank Edwards/Rastal 6-2 6-1 6-1

Semis:
Atkinson/Atkinson d. Edith Rotch/Maud Banks 3-6 6-4 6-4
Mrs. Frank Edwards/Elizabeth Rastall d. Ray Harlan/ Ellen Kitchen ???

1st Round:

Atkinson/Atkinson d. Beaumont /Elizabeth Sleven 6-0 6-3

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Notes:

Still a local affair, with the women listed with the clubs they represent! Carrie Neely is the one non-local, coming form Chicago. In 1998 the eastern women will face the first "Western" invasion, when Marion Jones comes east to vie for the title.

All the participants had a sit down dinner after the ladies final. Fresh lemonade inside the clubhouse kept spectators cool.
The local paper noted on day 3 that "all day carriages and buggies were coming to and fro the tennis festivities".
 
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