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we all know that there are a few lesbian players on the wta-tour (today i read an article about "old lady" CONCHITA on videotext - the reason for this thread), but have there ever been gay players on the atp tour? i've never heard of that! :confused:
 

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I remember a Tennis Magazine (USA) letter to the editor from back in 90...91..or maybe even 92 from a supposed tour pro stating that gay men will never come out while on tour as they will lose all their endorsements. The letter also went on to say that the locker room atmosphere is not accepting, and any gay player would be mocked, threatened, etc. The author did not leave his name, but he did state that he was a top pro with many endorsements.

I never heard anything after they ran the letter.
 

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It really is their own business they way in which they live their private lives, don't you think?
yes i think, but the ladys talk about it - why shouldn't the men?
i'm not really interested... :eek:
 

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I'm sure there are or at least have been...but they don't want to come out. Who's to force them?
 

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I've heard it may have been Jim Courier...
 

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Not that there's anything wrong with that
 

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yes i think, but the ladys talk about it - why shouldn't the men?
i'm not really interested... :eek:
So tell me the last time Conchita talked about her lesbian lover on tour? hmm...I think maybe perhaps never. :rolleyes:
 

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well, people say that 10% of men are gay. Now if we add those who are gay and still in the closet, and those who are bisexual, it's probably 25% or who knows even more. Also many men say that they've been intimate with a guy, but that they are straight. :rolleyes: So to answer the question, of course there's gay men on the atp tour, perhaps 2 out of 10 players or even more. It's just that being out would only complicate things for them, so they keep it in private. As for lesbians (women) it is still more acceptable in society then being gay (men). Much more acceptable actually... Even in straight porn, we always see women having sex together. Well, now that I gave you a sex lesson, please vote for either Anna Kournikova or myself in the "who's greater" poll. :p
 

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:rolleyes: Seles :wavey:
 

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C'mon Vera! :wavey:
 

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Ah,selesrules, I don't know where your getting your statistics and I don't wanna know,but anyways why do you think its sooo much easier for a female athlete to be gay?If its so much easier why are there only two[martinez&mauresmo] two current players who are "out" Players like Navratilova and King, both of whom were outed, lost endorsements because of thier sexuality;ask Martina how much money she made from endorsements....not much!!Also,I'm sure that there are many things in porn movies that alot of people would not find acceptable.
 

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If there are gay men on the tour, I say they are mainly doubles specialists........can u imagine the amount of balls on court at once...what gay guy would turn down the opportunity....don't be silly, the gay guy is the one playing doubles.....lol..

Seriously, there's a gay league in a division of the usta and they have their own tourneys, and even majors. I think it's called the gay lesbian tennis association. It was cool and I was following them for awhile. I think the players who are gay are in the closet. The selling point of the atp is kinda macho and to have an outspoken gay player would just tarnish the " new balls please" campaign and would probably subject them to ridicule by the masses. Tennis is stigmatized as a feminine sport and having a gay player would only confirm it to be just that.
 

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I really don't think that it's as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. So what, a person is gay. These days it's not such a huge thing. If there was a #1 male player who came out of the closet, he's still going to have sponsorships. If he's winning every event and is on TV all the time, they're going to want him to be wearing their logo. It's not about sexuality, it's about press. If a person is going to be on world-wide TV because they just came out, do you think Adidas or Nike would frown at the idea of him having on their hat when he makes his statement to the press? I seriously doubt it.
 

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Apparently Jim Courier is fairly openly gay in tennis circles, that we know:)

My hunches, as a gay man are:

Tommy Haas

Michael Chang (who didn't convince me when he said he was looking for the right woman)

...and I don't really follow men's tennis enough to express a view!

What *is* interesting is the fact that people generally are a lot more hostile to discussion about ATP sexuality than about the women on the WTA.
 
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